Trump takes fighting stance as election swings toward Biden

[Jingthing]

On 11/6/2020 at 1:51 PM, Jingthing said:

If he does agree to leave he's still president for about 3 more months. He will definitely not be well behaved during that time. Be afraid. 

Expanding on that theme.

The 45 post loss purge begins setting the table for many headaches for President elect Biden. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/06/bonnie-glick-fired-trump-post-election-purge/

 

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, cmarshall said:

 

What one might expect, but not actually true.  The reason Trump does not have top-notch Washington lawyers working for him right now and is stuck with third-raters like Consovoy and Sekulow, is that the top tier Washington firms refused to work for him, during impeachment time for example, because he has a well-deserved reputation for not paying.

 

Most of the crimes for which he will be charged will be financial crimes for which the evidence is going to be documents, not eyewitness testimony.  If they get him in a trial he will be convicted.

On the other hand, he can get publicity obsessed lawyers of questionable competence who want to be famous and get invited to speak on 24 hour news networks.  Giuliani comes to mind.

[onthedarkside]

A long series of off-topic posts about national debts, economics theory, the Iraq war, Japan and other stuff have been removed.

 

The topic of this thread is -- Trump takes fighting stance as election swings toward Biden

[cdemundo]

On 11/5/2020 at 11:53 PM, J Town said:

We may not know until next year. There are two Georgia Senate elections that are looking to go into a runoff special election. As if we weren't already exhausted over politics!

 

On 11/6/2020 at 12:00 AM, vinci said:

even some black are voting for Trump mind boggling isn't

I meet a significant number of Black, Hispanic, and Asian people who support Trump.  I usually don't discuss much with them.  But I did ask one guy "why" and he said "Because I'm a Christian".  Huh?  Go figure.

[shdmn]

Trump is a historically big one term loser.  Biden is the most successful presidential challenger since FDR based on votes.

 

So now trump is just another broke guy, about to lose his job, has five kids from three different women & is trying not to get kicked out of government housing.

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2020 by shdmn

[cdemundo]

18 hours ago, cmarshall said:

 

We're not out of the woods by any means.  If Trump can appeal a few cases to the Supreme Court, they would decide for him 5 to 4.

The Supremes review the merits of cases before accepting them.  I seems that none of the fraud or irregularity complaints have any merit.

[vinci]

Supreme Court Judge use Trump to get their life time position, once you are in you are in for life, they will not risk their career for a clown, does not matter who is the President nobody can remove them only by impeachment but dealing with trump are more trouble then not having him, I'm pretty sure they want nothing to do with Trump and glad that he's gone

[Jeffr2]

5 hours ago, vinci said:

Supreme Court Judge use Trump to get their life time position, once you are in you are in for life, they will not risk their career for a clown, does not matter who is the President nobody can remove them only by impeachment but dealing with trump are more trouble then not having him, I'm pretty sure they want nothing to do with Trump and glad that he's gone

They may not like Trump, but the last few have mindsets like he does.  Sadly.  Time for a change at the SCOTUS.  Get politics out of it.

[placeholder]

6 hours ago, cdemundo said:

 

I meet a significant number of Black, Hispanic, and Asian people who support Trump.  I usually don't discuss much with them.  But I did ask one guy "why" and he said "Because I'm a Christian".  Huh?  Go figure.

Before Trump, when pollsters questioned evangelicals if they would vote for a candidate with a bad moral character  a big majority said no. For some reason those numbers have now flipped. Hmmm...

[CharlieH]

Reported post removed.

 

 

[Captain Monday]

On 11/6/2020 at 1:15 AM, cmarshall said:

Biden is going to have to function without the US Senate.  McConnell will not confirm any of Biden judicial appointments up to and including to the Supreme Court.  In fact, I expect McConnell to refuse to confirm any Cabinet appointments from Biden, because why should he?

 

Sounds like a major problem, but maybe not.  What Biden should do is to just tell his appointees to move into their offices and start performing their functions.  In fact, Trump has already been doing just that.  A court determined that the acting Secretary of Homeland Security has been filling his post illegally.  Nothing happened.  The guy is still there getting a paycheck.

 

If McConnell pulls a Merrick Garland on him, Biden should just send his appointee over to the Supreme Court to start performing his duties as an associate justice under the theory that the Senate's failure to advise or consent itself constitutes consent.  

 

I expect Trump to resign his office to enable President Pence to pardon him for federal crimes.  He will still probably flee the country to avoid prosecution in NY State.

 

Watch out for Clarence Thomas to resign his seat on the Supreme Court to allow McConnell to ram through a lame-duck appointment.

Unfortunately due to "American Exceptionalism" whatever happens Trump will never spend a day behind bars, it would not look good. He will expire in relative comfort having never missed a meal in his life. As for leaving the country he will be under secret service protection for life. Simultaneously he will be under guard and his communications will be monitored.. He is likely bankrupt. He will face multiple indictments. Trump is mentally unstable, angry and and the greatest intelligence vulnerability imaginable if he defects to Russia or China for personal benefit. Time to change the passcodes.Fleeing the country? Not likely Trump be allowed to travel to anywhere but first world countries with close relations and no visits to Embassies. 

 

Maybe visit his golf resorts in Ireland or Scotland if they allow him entry.

Edited November 8, 2020 by Captain Monday

[J Town]

4 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

Unfortunately due to "American Exceptionalism" whatever happens Trump will never spend a day behind bars, it would not look good. He will expire in relative comfort having never missed a meal in his life. As for leaving the country he will be under secret service protection for life. Simultaneously he will be under guard and his communications will be monitored.. He is likely bankrupt. He will face multiple indictments. Trump is mentally unstable, angry and and the greatest intelligence vulnerability imaginable if he defects to Russia or China for personal benefit. Time to change the pass codes. Fleeing the country? Not likely Trump be allowed to travel to anywhere but first world countries with close relations and no visits to Embassies. 

 

Maybe visit his golf resorts in Ireland or Scotland if they allow him entry.

I wouldn't be so sure. His creditors are lining up, weighing their options to recoup their $$$. He's now just another broke guy, losing his job, 5 kids from 3 different women, trying not to get kicked outta gov't housing. SDNY is patiently biding their time which is Midnight 20 Jan 2021. Trump's troubles are now just beginning. He has p!ssed off too many people, believing he could hide behind the resolute desk. No, his troubles are just beginning.

[Jeffr2]

8 minutes ago, J Town said:

I wouldn't be so sure. His creditors are lining up, weighing their options to recoup their $$$. He's now just another broke guy, losing his job, 5 kids from 3 different women, trying not to get kicked outta gov't housing. SDNY is patiently biding their time which is Midnight 20 Jan 2021. Trump's troubles are now just beginning. He has p!ssed off too many people, believing he could hide behind the resolute desk. No, his troubles are just beginning.

Yup.  No more free legal services and an AG who's working to help you with your personal legal issues. 

 

Trump's been bankrupt many times in the past.  Seems another is just around the corner.

[J Town]

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

Yup.  No more free legal services and an AG who's working to help you with your personal legal issues. 

 

Trump's been bankrupt many times in the past.  Seems another is just around the corner.

This AG deserves jail time, no exception.

[Stargeezr]

Trump has been Trumped..   Bye, Bye Donny

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Trump has been Trumped..   Bye, Bye Donny

YOU'RE FIRED!

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[xylophone]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

YOU'RE FIRED!

????

Yes and can really call him A LOSER now, but wait a minute wasn't he also a loser with....

 

Trump Steaks, GoTrump, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, Trump Magazine, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trumped! (all of which went bust).

 

Not to mention the Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal ,2. Trump’s Castle, 3. Trump Plaza Casinos, 4. Trump Plaza Hotel , 5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts 

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts.

 

The election has now been decided in favour of someone who will not try to divide the country for his own ends, so good riddance to the dumbest, most corrupt president America has ever known......but looking at his failed businesses above, one has to wonder why he was elected in the first place? 

 

The swing away from him was a vote for common sense, and Biden or a cheese sandwich would have done the trick!

 

 

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by xylophone

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Yes and can really call him A LOSER now, but wait a minute wasn't he also a loser with....

 

Trump Steaks, GoTrump, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump: The Game, Trump Magazine, Trump University, Trump Ice, The New Jersey Generals, Tour de Trump, Trump Network, Trumped! (all of which went bust).

 

Not to mention the Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal ,2. Trump’s Castle, 3. Trump Plaza Casinos, 4. Trump Plaza Hotel , 5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts 

6. Trump Entertainment Resorts.

 

The election has now been decided in favour of someone who will not try to divide the country for his own ends, so good riddance to the dumbest, most corrupt president America has ever known......but looking at his failed businesses above, one has to wonder why he was elected in the first place? 

 

The swing away from him was a vote for common sense, and Biden or a cheese sandwich would have done the trick!

I spent a fair amount of time in NYC in the 90's.  Trump was well known then, and NOT liked.  It boggled our minds how he could be elected president. We all knew him as a racist, liar and conman.  Sadly, seems some like people like this.

[xylophone]

29 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

I spent a fair amount of time in NYC in the 90's.  Trump was well known then, and NOT liked.  It boggled our minds how he could be elected president. We all knew him as a racist, liar and conman.  Sadly, seems some like people like this.

Interestingly enough it has been something I've been thinking about, especially after watching the series, "Dirty Money" which had the last exposé on trump.

 

It did offer an explanation in that America has been considered the home of the "huckster" and "snake oil salesman" and despite all that they stood for, they weren't particularly disliked, more admired for their ability to stand up and shoot the sh!t, and their outgoing personalities. One other aspect of the exposé was the subject of "conmen" or "confidence tricksters" obviously pointing the finger at trump.

 

It also has to be remembered that a lot of the victims of such hucksters were the poor and illiterate, or even semiliterate people. I don't think that has changed much in the current situation because from what I have seen, the Republican supporters will believe anything that this huckster says.

 

Add to that the fact that he was always touting that he was extremely wealthy, a billionaire and whatever, and you had almost a perfect mix for the naïve followers, which became a bit like a cult because everything bad about this poor excuse for a human being and anything he did was dismissed or just "didn't exist"/fake news.

 

Here's a slightly different take on it because those in power in the Republican party don't seem to be that dim, so once they realised that they had a person who could manipulate the masses, they let him do it because it paid their wages, and nowhere did they speak out against this abomination, when in fact if they'd had a spine, or indeed been true to their country and its principles, they would have done so.

 

Lastly the fact that some of his supporters paraded with a trump head on a "Rambo-esque" figure shows how deeply divided the country has become, where trump is supposedly fighting the evils of government and "the Swamp" whereas in fact the opposite is true, because he and his cohorts inhabited their own much more devious and corrupt Swamp, if ever there was one.
 

[hgma]

The day Trump mocked a disabled reporter on stage, was the day I turned away from him, but let it be known....he is beaten by a guy he fights a stutter all of his life, i call that a perfect example of KARMA.

[BobBKK]

On 11/7/2020 at 9:48 AM, Jeffr2 said:

If the numbers hold, Biden will get 306 electoral votes.  Just like Trump did in 2016.  Which he called a bigly win.  Or would you say Trump also just scraped in?

 

And Biden has won the popular vote.  Something Trump didn't.

 

Libs predicting?  Wow...a bit biased, eh?  But yes, the senate didn't turn out like they thought.  Just like the house didn't turn out like the Trump guys thought in 2018.

 

Trump got 8m more votes than 2016 actually and Biden scrapped in - what happened to the 8 points ahead in the Polls? popular vote is irrelevant as you well know. Biden won, no problem with that, I predicted he would in many posts and America is still divided. Now watch the scary PC Libs turn America into a shadow of it's former self.

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Trump got 8m more votes than 2016 actually and Biden scrapped in - what happened to the 8 points ahead in the Polls? popular vote is irrelevant as you well know. Biden won, no problem with that, I predicted he would in many posts and America is still divided. Now watch the scary PC Libs turn America into a shadow of it's former self.

And Biden got about 4MM more than Trump in 2020.  A record for any presidential candidate.  A mandate for sure, with over 50% voting for him.  Hardly scrapped in.  That would be about 5% over Trump.  Well within the margin of error for polls, if you understand that concept.

 

PC libs?  Seriously?  Wow....

[Sujo]

19 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Trump got 8m more votes than 2016 actually and Biden scrapped in - what happened to the 8 points ahead in the Polls? popular vote is irrelevant as you well know. Biden won, no problem with that, I predicted he would in many posts and America is still divided. Now watch the scary PC Libs turn America into a shadow of it's former self.

Yeah cause the US is in such good shape after 4 years of that tool.

[BobBKK]

13 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

And Biden got about 4MM more than Trump in 2020.  A record for any presidential candidate.  A mandate for sure, with over 50% voting for him.  Hardly scrapped in.  That would be about 5% over Trump.  Well within the margin of error for polls, if you understand that concept.

 

PC libs?  Seriously?  Wow....

 

Of course it's a record and every election will be as the population is GROWING. Biden got most and Trump second in the history of US elections because?  yea, you got it... more people can vote. The Dem Party has certainly changed into PC Libs and I'm not sure how they can incorporate just under 50% of the country into unity. Let's see. 

[Sujo]

Trump campaign in trouble. They filed docs in court stating voter fraud by stating information they could not have legally had.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-campaign-lawyers-may-violated-043752812.html

[Sujo]

37 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Of course it's a record and every election will be as the population is GROWING. Biden got most and Trump second in the history of US elections because?  yea, you got it... more people can vote. The Dem Party has certainly changed into PC Libs and I'm not sure how they can incorporate just under 50% of the country into unity. Let's see. 

We certainly know trump couldnt, and never wanted to unite.

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

We certainly know trump couldnt, and never wanted to unite.

 

   There would have been no possibility, no chance at all that Trump would have been able to befriend/win over the Left, Dems Antifa etc, no chance at all , ever .

   No way would the Left ever "unite" under Donald 

[CorpusChristie]

9 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Trump campaign in trouble. They filed docs in court stating voter fraud by stating information they could not have legally had.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-campaign-lawyers-may-violated-043752812.html

 

   Did you read the story ?

The story reports they "may have" and you've changed that to "They did" .

   They may have had access to info that might have been protected under the data protection act 

 

[Sujo]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Did you read the story ?

The story reports they "may have" and you've changed that to "They did" .

   They may have had access to info that might have been protected under the data protection act 

 

No other way to have that info. The report uses caution, i dont need to. i never stated, they did, perhaps you should show me those words.

 

So if true im sure you will condemn them and agree those involved deserve jail. Being a law and order guy.

Edited November 8, 2020 by Sujo

[CorpusChristie]

29 minutes ago, Sujo said:

No other way to have that info. The report uses caution, i dont need to. i never stated, they did, perhaps you should show me those words.

 

So if true im sure you will condemn them and agree those involved deserve jail. Being a law and order guy.

 

  I think that they should concentrate on the allegation of voter fraud as thats far more serious than the data protection act  

Edited November 8, 2020 by CorpusChristie