Health officials chasing down Phuket connection over Krabi COVID patient

[webfact]

Health officials chasing down Phuket connection over Krabi COVID patient

By The Phuket News

 

Disease Control Department Director-General Opas Karnkawinpong believes COVID-19 has not spread from an Indian patient to people around him due to the small amount of the virus found in his body. Photo: Disease Control Department / Facebook

 

BANGKOK: Public health officials are trying to locate two men who came into close contact in Phuket with an Indian man who has now tested positive for COVID-19.

 

The Indian man, 37, was reported as COVID-positive by the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) on Saturday (Nov 7).

 

The CCSA reported that the Indian man was working at a restaurant in Krabi, and tested positive last Wednesday (Nov 4) while taking a health test for a work permit. He is not experiencing any symptoms of infection, but is under care at a public hospital while his case is being investigated, the CCSA said on Saturday without revealing further details.

 

Full story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/health-officials-chasing-down-phuket-connection-over-krabi-covid-patient-77916.php

 

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[Grumpy John]

And the Indian guy will be billed for the hospital stay?    Or does he have insurance?

[Jeffr2]

1 hour ago, Grumpy John said:

And the Indian guy will be billed for the hospital stay?    Or does he have insurance?

Who cares.  This is a big deal.  Probably got it from migrant workers crossing over from Burma illegally. 

 

Sadly, seems we can't let our guard down just yet.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2020/11/06/thai-ministry-of-public-health-announces-60th-reported-covid-19-death-this-morning-three-infected-burmese-immigrants-being-sent-back-to-home-country-for-health-treatment/

[Tropicalevo]

1 hour ago, Grumpy John said:

And the Indian guy will be billed for the hospital stay?    Or does he have insurance?

As he has a work permit, he is probably paying social security. If he is paying it then medical care is free.

[Jeffr2]

7 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

As he has a work permit, he is probably paying social security. If he is paying it then medical care is free.

He was applying for a work permit.  Not sure he got it.

[Daithi85]

1 hour ago, Grumpy John said:

And the Indian guy will be billed for the hospital stay?    Or does he have insurance?

????????????????????

[MasterBaker]

"small amount" is this something you can measure? say, if i have 3mg of the virus in my body...

[commie]

"Small amount" sounds like "a little bit pregnant" LOL

[ThailandRyan]

This just arrived in my inbox for new news. A pretty interesting read on shedding the virus of an asymptomatic carrier.  

https://www.businessinsider.com/patient-with-coronavirus-shed-virus-for-70-days-2020-11?amp

 

Seems that immunosuppressed virus carries do not build up the antibodies to kill off the virus and are still capable of spreading it for a longer period of time.

Edited November 9, 2020 by ThailandRyan

[nobodysfriend]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

an Indian man who has now tested positive for COVID-19.

 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

the Indian man was working at a restaurant in Krabi

 

Working in a restaurant while being Covid positive ...?

Does not sound very good .

[Dukeleto]

The big question is not who he has given it to but who gave it to him? I guess thats not really important in the context of the official line that there is no Thai to Thai domestic transmission in Thailand!

[Thaiwrath]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Who cares.  This is a big deal.  Probably got it from migrant workers crossing over from Burma illegally. 

 

Sadly, seems we can't let our guard down just yet.

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2020/11/06/thai-ministry-of-public-health-announces-60th-reported-covid-19-death-this-morning-three-infected-burmese-immigrants-being-sent-back-to-home-country-for-health-treatment/

 

He could also, quite possibly, have got it from a Thai, also not experiencing any symptoms.

And if your "guess" is correct, are we to assume that that migrant worker he possibly contracted it from, only passed it one to this one person ?

Edited November 9, 2020 by Thaiwrath

[mjakob007]

 Virus is virus... 

how can one be diagnosed for little quantity....

 

PCR test shows + or -.

does not read it as it was a thermometer!

[malathione]

7 minutes ago, mjakob007 said:

 Virus is virus... 

how can one be diagnosed for little quantity....

 

PCR test shows + or -.

does not read it as it was a thermometer!

It's called viral load. It is the amount of viral RNA present in the blood. Not measured using PCR tests.

[whaleboneman]

Do you get a work permit before you have the medical test for a work permit?

[Jeffr2]

31 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said:

 

He could also, quite possibly, have got it from a Thai, also not experiencing any symptoms.

And if your "guess" is correct, are we to assume that that migrant worker he possibly contracted it from, only passed it one to this one person ?

Good points.  We know Burmese are crossing the border illegally.  And the virus is raging there.  They are coming here for work and health care.  Several have been detected at the border, but many just walk across in the jungle.

 

When I was down south, they were driving around in trucks telling people to notify police if they see migrant workers.  This was a few months ago.

 

I'm guessing it was a migrant worker at the restaurant.  Most restaurants employ them as they are cheaper than Thai workers.

[wmlc]

Anyone who thinks that Thailand is Covid free is totally wrong. We don’t test anyone unless they display symptoms or have proof they came in contact with a positive person. What does that mean? It means that  asymptomatic people have been walking around and spreading Covid to many people. Anyone sick at this time from a locally transmitted case is being covered up by the government and even public Heath does not know about it. And if they do know, reports like this have already gone public so they are forced to report it. Sad but true. 
 

if no Covid is Thailand, how did the:

1. Thai DJ get it

2. The French lady 

3. This Indian guy 

4. The Malaysian guy

 

These 4 cases are just leaked cases but there are many more. The public is being put at risk to protect the economy and the tourism sector. 
 

I don’t see anyone using the check in app anymore. Clubs and bars and restaurants don’t practice any forms of social distancing, and we are met to believe everything is normal. 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by wmlc

[gunnerterry]

2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

As he has a work permit, he is probably paying social security. If he is paying it then medical care is free.

If you work for a company and they pay for the government health scheme for you (sometimes you pay 50% around 300-400baht) then yes you are covered. However many companies don't do this for you, just paying tax in Thailand does not necessarily mean your medical care is free.

[webfact]

290 people who had close contact with Indian who tested positive for Covid-19 to undergo testing

By THE NATION

 

 

Some 290 people who had close contact with an Indian man, who tested positive for Covid-19 in the first domestic case in over a month, have been told to contact public health officials, the Ministry of Public Health said on Sunday.

 

The Indian national aged 37 years, who resides in Krabi, tested positive for Covid-19 on November 5.

 

The timeline and travel history of the patient is as follows:

 

February 1: The man departed from Singapore to Thailand.

 

October 19-27: Stayed at home with his wife at a house on Phi Phi Island in Krabi. He later drove in a personal car to Phuket and stayed at a hotel near Patong Beach.

 

October 28: Returned to Krabi and stayed at his brother’s house in Muang district.

 

October 30: Took flight FD3167 to Chiang Mai and stayed in a hotel in Muang district.

 

October 31: Drove from Chiang Mai to Sukhothai in a rented car and stayed at a hotel in Sukhothai.

 

November 1: Returned to Chiang Mai and visited some temples.

 

November 2: Returned to Phuket by flight FD1968, but showed symptoms of coughing.

 

November 3: Visited a shopping mall in Phuket, then returned to Krabi and stayed at his brother’s house.

 

November 4: Received Covid-19 testing at Krabi Hospital in order to apply for work permit, then returned to his house on Phi Phi Island.

 

November 5: Stayed at home and was informed about his positive test result.

 

November 6: Admitted to Krabi Hospital.

 

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30397590

 

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[ThailandRyan]

So he has been in the country for a long time already and prior to the closures if the borders.  Who knows how, when or where he picked up the virus as it seems he has traveled extensively.  Good luck on the track and trace...

[Jeffr2]

20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

So he has been in the country for a long time already and prior to the closures if the borders.  Who knows how, when or where he picked up the virus as it seems he has traveled extensively.  Good luck on the track and trace...

If you read beyond the headlines, health experts have said all along that the virus is still here.  I'm guessing this one case came in from Burma.  Happened up north and happened to that DJ in Bangkok. 

[AlQaholic]

I just got a new WP few months ago, nobody asked for any kind of medical test certificate. Spreading like wildfire in Burma, I hear.

Edited November 9, 2020 by AlQaholic

[hasitha77]

So do we have to go through a PCR test before renew work-permit? 

[AlQaholic]

1 hour ago, wmlc said:

Anyone who thinks that Thailand is Covid free is totally wrong. We don’t test anyone unless they display symptoms or have proof they came in contact with a positive person. What does that mean? It means that  asymptomatic people have been walking around and spreading Covid to many people

With this conspiracy scenario in mind, where are they hiding the piles upon piles of people who died from COVID and how are they keeping the relatives and hospital workers silenced? I'm sure there is another conspiracy theory for that as well:)

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, AlQaholic said:

With this conspiracy scenario in mind, where are they hiding the piles upon piles of people who died from COVID and how are they keeping the relatives and hospital workers silenced? I'm sure there is another conspiracy theory for that as well:)

Stop with the far left, where are they hiding the piles of Bodies piling up <deleted>.  Asymptomatic is Asymptomatic, no signs no symptoms, and definitely not dying.  The world has millions of Asymptomatic cases and yet not Millions have died.  You are forgiven also to believe people are being silenced.  If the testing is not done, then how do we know how many are asymptomatic if they are not going to a hospital because they are sick.  Time to get real and realize that just like other virus's not many seek treatment and many pass it on.

[AlQaholic]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Stop with the far left, where are they hiding the piles of Bodies piling up <deleted>.  Asymptomatic is Asymptomatic, no signs no symptoms, and definitely not dying.  The world has millions of Asymptomatic cases and yet not Millions have died.  You are forgiven also to believe people are being silenced.  If the testing is not done, then how do we know how many are asymptomatic if they are not going to a hospital because they are sick.  Time to get real and realize that just like other virus's not many seek treatment and many pass it on.

It is proven, that 3% of infected people die, this is the case everywhere in the world. If the virus is spreading in Thailand, hospitals would already be overwhelmed, just like in any other country with high infection rates.

[Huckenfell]

1 hour ago, wmlc said:

Anyone who thinks that Thailand is Covid free is totally wrong. We don’t test anyone unless they display symptoms or have proof they came in contact with a positive person. What does that mean? It means that  asymptomatic people have been walking around and spreading Covid to many people. Anyone sick at this time from a locally transmitted case is being covered up by the government and even public Heath does not know about it. And if they do know, reports like this have already gone public so they are forced to report it. Sad but true. 
 

if no Covid is Thailand, how did the:

1. Thai DJ get it

2. The French lady 

3. This Indian guy 

4. The Malaysian guy

 

These 4 cases are just leaked cases but there are many more. The public is being put at risk to protect the economy and the tourism sector. 
 

I don’t see anyone using the check in app anymore. Clubs and bars and restaurants don’t practice any forms of social distancing, and we are met to believe everything is normal. 

 

 

 

I suspect that the Covid test i rarely used in Thailand. Not so long ago my Thai partner was feeling unwell.  With the symptons that she had, i told her that here in Queensland she would have been sent immediately for a Covid test, so she presented herself to the Sisaket hospital where she was given some paracetamol and sent home being told to rest.

[PingRoundTheWorld]

6 minutes ago, AlQaholic said:

It is proven, that 3% of infected people die, this is the case everywhere in the world.

Proven? how can you "prove" a statistic where you don't know the real number of cases to compare with fatalities? In my country the fatality rate of known cases is 0.83%. This is lower than other countries not because my people are somehow more resilient - this is lower because my country tests like crazy so they find a higher share of people actually infected than other countries do. In reality however fatality rate is lower and likely in the range of 0.1-0.4%. Leaning towards 0.1% in countries where the population is lean and young, and leaning towards 0.4% in countries where the population is obese and old.

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, Huckenfell said:

I suspect that the Covid test i rarely used in Thailand. Not so long ago my Thai partner was feeling unwell.  With the symptons that she had, i told her that here in Queensland she would have been sent immediately for a Covid test, so she presented herself to the Sisaket hospital where she was given some paracetamol and sent home being told to rest.

This is very standard here in Thailand.  Only those presenting with symptoms or going into an ASQ or government quarantine location are tested. Prisoners new to a facility might be tested as well as those requiring a test for work.  Other than that they are not testing.  

[Barry343]

Something fishy in Krabi, why was he allowed to work prior to taking a health check  test for a work permit?