U.S. Supreme Court swiftly ends Trump-backed Texas bid to upend election results

[Dumbastheycome]

42 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

Predictably the Presidential Twitter account has fired off a tweet about the S C's lack of courage , wisdom , etc , but disappointingly no full cap's and only one exclamation mark to emphasise his outrage of the injustice .. I was expecting a far more vitriolic broadside with perhaps even an angry imogee or two .. ????

Perhaps on best advice Trump was made aware of the possibility he  may be a defendant in an appeal in front of the SCOTUS at some  no so distant point of time?

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Perhaps on best advice Trump was made aware of the possibility he  may be a defendant in an appeal in front of the SCOTUS at some  no so distant point of time?

Good one.

[Dumbastheycome]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Well, IMO you are correct that if the senate remains GOP majority, Biden is in for a hard time ????.

IMO it will be the USA overall having a hard time  if the GOP retains their strangle hold. However they will have to be squeaky clean in the process unlike  as  have been.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If the GOP still hold the senate they might even impeach and convict Biden.

Sigh. Did you even read my post before launching into a reply? Obviously missed "if the GOP wins a majority in the house come 2022, expect some large payback. If the GOP still hold the senate they might even impeach and convict Biden".

Let’s deal with today’s reality, Trump has lost the election, he’s 39 days away from losing control of the DoJ and his presidential immunity.

 

The lid is about to come off every crime Trump and his administration have been working so hard to hide.

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57 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

The 6-3 decision is misleading.

3 'dissented' only to the court decision not issuing a fully written decision to block the lawsuit.

To wit: the 3 USSC judges said in a statement accompanying the order that if the case was allowed to be filed, they would grant NO OTHER RELIEF. In effect USSC had a 100% consensus to deny the lawsuit. 

So much for Trump's and Republican Senators scheme to re-elect if necessary Trump through the USSC based on loyalty to Trump and his political party in judges nominations and selection. Trump asked the Court to make the correct constitutional decision and it did. 

Actually it was 7 to 2. And of course the Supreme Court justices couldn't stop or postpone the electoral tally of the 4 states in question since the Constitution specifically says all the states have to do it on the same day. It just shows how dishonest are the news sources that Trump supporters rely on that this fact seems never to have been mentioned. At least, those posting here in the belief that the Supreme Court would back Trump never even mentioned it.

[Kelsall]

Trump still has options.

Edited December 12, 2020 by Kelsall

[J Town]

5 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

He has ONE option - start packing his bags.

 

Today I saw Hannity ask Giuliani what options were left. Rudy said he's going back to the states and ask again if they'd change their minds. Using the same evidence (none). Rehashing the same lawsuits (over 50 lost).

 

Let it go. Your boy lost. You need to get past the denial stage of grieving in order to move on and accept reality.

 

1. denial.

2. anger.

3. bargaining.

4. depression.

5. acceptance.

 

Good luck on your spiritual journey.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

Amongst which fleeing the country is probably the only one that will keep him out of prison.

[Fat is a type of crazy]

12 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

I'm sure he'll find new ways to add insult to the injury of losing the election.

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14 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

Flee to Russia?

[Chomper Higgot]

We need a party, we really do.

 

 

[edit]

 

And we deserve a party, we really do.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

13 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

 

Yep.... he does.

 

1. He can skulk away in the dark of night to his chosen Trumpistan haven like the loser he is.

 

or

 

2. He can wait for the Secret Service, et. al. to come along and chuck him out of the White House and onto the sidewalk, hopefully near Washington DC's Black Lives Matter Plaza.

 

 

 

[Surelynot]

Just now, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Yep.... he does.

 

1. He can skulk away in the dark of night to his chosen Trumpistan haven like the loser he is.

 

or

 

2. He can wait for the Secret Service, et. al. to come along and chuck him out of the White House and onto the sidewalk, hopefully near Washington DC's Black Lives Matter Plaza.

 

 

 

He could be a little, red, full stop (period) at the end.

[earlinclaifornia]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Don't be too happy. The resistance begins January 21.

 

It's a pity the SCOTUS didn't allow it as if the election was won fair and square Biden would still be POTUS come Jan 20, but the matter would be settled. Just refusing to take the case means that the accusation of fraud will not be going away any time soon. 70 million angry Americans is not a good way to start a term.

However, IMO there are around 70 million Americans that will feel aggrieved, and do everything they can to bring Biden down.

Expect the same sort of <deleted> as Trump got the past 4 years, and if the GOP wins a majority in the house come 2022, expect some large payback. If the GOP still hold the senate they might even impeach and convict Biden.

Regardless, the investigation into Hunter Biden will IMO hurt Joe Biden, and the Chinese spy sleeping with a Democrat politician should be satisfyingly embarrassing to Pelosi, who is downplaying it. I'm sure there are a lot of embarrassing things to come out about Democrats, so I'm expecting US politics to be entertaining for some time to come.

You have a always come up with some really silly postings. But America will become strong again as soon as this man child is history

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

You have a always come up with some really silly postings. But America will become strong again as soon as this man child is history

I wish I shared your optimism. I think the damage that has happened under Mr Trump may be permanent. There has been severe democratic backsliding. It won't be quick or easy to reverse that.

[Walker88]

35 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

Options?

 

Fleeing to a country lacking an extradition treaty with the US?

 

He has exhausted all options. He's 1-56 in court. He just lost the highest court in the land.

 

Stick a fork in him; he's done.

 

He really ought to start preparing his many defenses. NY AG has him in her sights, and she has all the many years of tapes and documents from Michael Cohen, plus whatever NY got re Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. His self-pardon, if he does, is unlikely to hold up in court. The Constitution is clear the US has no monarch, and anything that would allow him or any POTUS to pardon themselves for any crime (e.g., murder, treason) would create a monarch. The new Federal AG is likely to have many crimes to investigate, and a DoJ and FBI staff that doesn't exactly like the way 45 dealt with them probably would like to engage in a little genuine justice.

 

He is also under investigation in Scotland regarding his source of funding for Turnberry and other golf properties. If he cannot explain the funding, he is in violation of a Scottish law and they can seize all of his assets there.

 

He is likely to be considered a security threat, as is jared, since both (more jared) have tried to accumulate a lot of classified data which they may well try to sell. jared is also in trouble for his Qatar deal and he may well be charged with 'conspiracy to commit espionage' after his visit to the Russian Embassy in December 2016 where he tried to set up a secret back channel to Putin. Ambassador Kislyak was so excited by the prospect, that he dropped all opsec and used an open line to call Moscow.  Finally, jared is unaware that WhatsApp encryption is not secure, so if 'anyone' wanted to capture all of his WhatsApp messages to MbS, Qatar, Netanyahu, etc. (all of which are illegal, as all govt business must be carried out on govt systems and entered into the record), they did capture it. I would not loan jared money nor write an insurance policy on him now.

 

If 45 takes a chance and resigns, then he needs a pardon from pence. Pence wants to run in 2024, so getting 45 out of the way cuts the field of contenders down. Pence could promise a pardon, then play Lucy with the football, fooling Charlie Brown.

 

I suspect 45 will enter a downward spiral come 20 January from which escape is highly unlikely.

Edited December 12, 2020 by Walker88

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I'm almost to the point of saying.... let them go and have what they want...in their own little (non-U.S.) Trumpistan world.

 

Let's see:

-- no environmental laws and rampant pollution; solar & wind energy outlawed.

-- everyone armed to the teeth with guns, extra points for full autos;

-- no Social Security and no Medicare, none of that Socialist/Marxist stuff;

-- police can shoot anyone they want anytime, and get extra points if the target is a minority;

-- gays, abortion and any religion other than Christianity made illegal;

-- no public schools, only evangelical Christian ones;

-- no First Amendment or civil rights (except to carry guns in public);

-- all media except OAN and NewsMax (and maybe Fox) declared enemies of the state and illegal.

-- QAnon membership and allegiance required in order to hold public office.

and finally...

-- Pledge of Allegiance revised to "One Nation Under Trump.

 

That's a pretty good start. Can I draft the new Constitution for Trumpistan???

 

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

7 hours ago, mr mr said:

poor guy he is really trying eh. 

 

I believe the term you're looking for regarding Trump's election nullifying efforts is:

Sedition

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organisation, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or rebellion against, established authority.

 

Although the federal criminal statute makes "by force" a necessary element

 

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sedition.html

 

Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it.

 

According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States:

• To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against them;

• To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States; or

• To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Chomper Higgot]

35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'm almost to the point of saying.... let them go and have what they want...in their own little (non-U.S.) Trumpistan world.

 

Let's see:

-- no environmental laws and rampant pollution; solar & wind energy outlawed.

-- everyone armed to the teeth with guns, extra points for full autos;

-- no Social Security and no Medicare, none of that Socialist/Marxist stuff;

-- police can shoot anyone they want anytime, and get extra points if the target is a minority;

-- gays, abortion and any religion other than Christianity made illegal;

-- no public schools, only evangelical Christian ones;

-- no First Amendment or civil rights (except to carry guns in public);

-- all media except OAN and NewsMax (and maybe Fox) declared enemies of the state and illegal.

-- QAnon membership and allegiance required in order to hold public office.

and finally...

-- Pledge of Allegiance revised to "One Nation Under Trump.

 

That's a pretty good start. Can I draft the new Constitution for Trumpistan???

 

 

America stepped back from the precipice.

 

We need always to be guarded against stepping back up again.

 

Which is precisely why Trump and his enablers need to be held to account.

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, Kelsall said:

Trump still has options.

Sure does. Argentina, Guatemala, Somalia, North Korea, shacking up with the boss in Moscow (probably the most realistic scenario), etc.

Or, plea bargains, plea bargains, plea bargains.

So many options, so little time!!

[Kelsall]

Both sides need to take a deep breath and clear their heads.

Edited December 12, 2020 by Kelsall

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Remember, Trump is still Commander-in-chief.  He may just go for it.

Go for what exactly? Go for a long walk off a short pier? Go for a one-way trip to see his daddy Putin? We've mentioned many times he has no viable options for staying in office. He's going for the exit 20 Jan 2021 or sooner. I would recommend sooner than later.

[Phulublub]

4 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Both sides need to take a deep breath and clear their heads.

Both sides?  There is only one side playing with democratic norms.

 

PH

[J Town]

5 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Both sides need to take a deep breath and clear their heads.

Our heads are more clear than they've been in YEARS cuz the liar-in-chief has been stymied and he's unable to spew his hatred. MSM no longer gives him a platform, even Fox has shamefully admitted Biden will be the next president. THAT'S clean and clear!

[billd766]

10 hours ago, pegman said:

So does the Texas AG still get a pardon? 

Nice try.

 

No cigar.

[ChouDoufu]

 

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

Options?

 

Fleeing to a country lacking an extradition treaty with the US?

 

He has exhausted all options. He's 1-56 in court. He just lost the highest court in the land.

 

Stick a fork in him; he's done.

 

He really ought to start preparing his many defenses. NY AG has him in her sights, and she has all the many years of tapes and documents from Michael Cohen, plus whatever NY got re Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. His self-pardon, if he does, is unlikely to hold up in court. The Constitution is clear the US has no monarch, and anything that would allow him or any POTUS to pardon themselves for any crime (e.g., murder, treason) would create a monarch. The new Federal AG is likely to have many crimes to investigate, and a DoJ and FBI staff that doesn't exactly like the way 45 dealt with them probably would like to engage in a little genuine justice.

 

He is also under investigation in Scotland regarding his source of funding for Turnberry and other golf properties. If he cannot explain the funding, he is in violation of a Scottish law and they can seize all of his assets there.

 

He is likely to be considered a security threat, as is jared, since both (more jared) have tried to accumulate a lot of classified data which they may well try to sell. jared is also in trouble for his Qatar deal and he may well be charged with 'conspiracy to commit espionage' after his visit to the Russian Embassy in December 2016 where he tried to set up a secret back channel to Putin. Ambassador Kislyak was so excited by the prospect, that he dropped all opsec and used an open line to call Moscow.  Finally, jared is unaware that WhatsApp encryption is not secure, so if 'anyone' wanted to capture all of his WhatsApp messages to MbS, Qatar, Netanyahu, etc. (all of which are illegal, as all govt business must be carried out on govt systems and entered into the record), they did capture it. I would not loan jared money nor write an insurance policy on him now.

 

If 45 takes a chance and resigns, then he needs a pardon from pence. Pence wants to run in 2024, so getting 45 out of the way cuts the field of contenders down. Pence could promise a pardon, then play Lucy with the football, fooling Charlie Brown.

 

I suspect 45 will enter a downward spiral come 20 January from which escape is highly unlikely.

 

pretty bleak future for a former president.

i can't see him living in relative obscurity building homes for the homeless.

as a designated 'loser,' his fans will forget him, plans for his future media empire will collapse.

he can't run from the law forever.

there really isn't much left.

less really, with half a billion in debt coming due next year,

and the few banks that deal with him want to drop him.

 

sure hope his security detail is keeping a watch on him.

a suicide in the presidential bunker would not serve the country's interests.

[Chomper Higgot]

23 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Both sides need to take a deep breath and clear their heads.

Wise edit.

 

But not fast enough, J Town grabbed and quoted your dangerous posting.

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[RocketDog]

10 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

This was nothing more than a spoiled narcissist and some desperate corrupt politicians seeking relief from the future consequences of their criminal activities, wasting the country's time and resources...and shame on the weak minded tribal members of this MAGA cult that support their actions over democracy and our republic. 

 

It's over...you lost....the people have spoken....accept it and move on.

The people have spoken but the voice was only marginally stronger than that of the delusional sycophants who elected trump in 2016.

 

This is what troubles me so much. These misguided souls will not simply disappear in a few months. It's going to be very difficult to kill the cockroach within our populace. Even without a head they live on.

We have met the enemy and he is us. (Pogo). 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

30 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Both sides need to take a deep breath and clear their heads.

 

You mean... like this -- Please don't hold back your true feelings now...

 

 

26 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

Remember, Trump is still Commander-in-chief.  He may just go for it.

Edited December 12, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Agree...but there is simply no easy answer to who then controls the 'truth'........the best way long term is trying to teach people to think....(with no hidden agenda)

No it won't be easy but it is pretty clear that many people just don't want to think, they just listen to the cult leader and follow. I say take the hard way and get rid of blatant lies. Let's face it Biden is not drinking baby blood. If you can't prove it then you shouldn't be allowed to tell people it's true. Giuliani tells the public there was mass voter fraud but he never claims fraud in court because he knows it's a lie and he will be held accountable for that. The lies need to stop.