38 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

People are following the Constitution in challenging electors and you and others are calling them out as seditious for attempting a "legislative" coup?

 

In nearly 150 years, Electoral College votes have been objected to four separate times, three of which were in the last 20 years and all four times Electoral College votes have been objected by Democrats.

What were you saying about "brainwashed sheeple?"

 

okay, i just read through the constitution.  i couldn't find the part where "challenging the electors" means you get to form a mob and storm the capital if your guy loses an election bigly.

 

was that one of lesser-known secret amendments?

 

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/01/06/united-states-capitol-lockdown

4 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

National security advisor is resigning.

 

Edit: the list of resignations is now growing....wow.

Source? I see reports of resignation considerations, and don't doubt their sanity if they DO resign.

 

The band aid has been ripped off. It's past time for kissing 45's burgeoning butt. Not only has he lost, he's going down in FLAMES!

Good move by Team Biden: he's the first one addressing the people of the US on this infamy. 
"I am your father president !"

 

11 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

National security advisor is resigning.

 

Edit: the list of resignations is now growing....wow.

 

if they resign, who will have authority to activate the 25th?

I wonder if the Texan Ted Cruz is still the proud Trump suppoerter?

  I wonder just how many of Donald's political supporters are going

to continue with their support?  Guess the nest few days will tell.

  Geezer

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

McConnell, perhaps concerned about how history will remember him, finally says something I agree with:

 

'"If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who helped give Trump some of his biggest accomplishments.'

What democracy? America was founded as a republic.

When a government cannot even protect the seat of government it begins to look like a failed state.

Various media sources, including CNN, are saying that Pence and Cabinet Officials are discussing whether to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove 45.

1 minute ago, toolpush said:

What democracy? America was founded as a republic.

you do know what a 'republic' means don't you?   They can be, and mostly are in the world , democratic. 

3 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Various media sources, including CNN, are saying that Pence and Cabinet Officials are discussing whether to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove 45.

 

Also, this from CNN:

 

President Trump told people he banned Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short from the West Wing today, according to multiple people. 

Short was seen going into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building Wednesday, which is on the White House campus but is a separate building from the White House and where Pence has his Vice Presidential Office, but Short has otherwise spent the day on the Hill.

 

I'll bet that Marc Short was going around trying to drum up support to invoke the 25th Amendment. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/congress-electoral-college-vote-count-2021/index.html

Lyndsey Graham just got kicked off of 45's Christmas list!

Just how easy is it to storm that building?! 

Just now, J Town said:

Lyndsey Graham just got kicked off of 45's Christmas list!

Yeah, quite a speech.  The spineless B*****D.  Finally, calling out the voter fraud lies.  He's terrible politician.  But he just did the right thing.

Just now, pacovl46 said:

Just how easy is it to storm that building?! 

 

When you want to make it easy, you just withdraw or reduce the protection.

Just now, pacovl46 said:

Just how easy is it to storm that building?! 

They should NOT have been caught with their pants down like this. 45 had been broadcasting this message of insurrection for too long.

6 minutes ago, toolpush said:

What democracy? America was founded as a republic.

The USA is a republic. It is also a representative democracy. Apparently, these 2 facts can't coexist in the minds of some people.

40 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

People are following the Constitution in challenging electors and you and others are calling them out as seditious for attempting a "legislative" coup?...

What "people" are you referring to? If it is the trespassers who stormed the Capitol, were they not actually disrupting the proceedings of "following the Constitution in challenging electors" that were ongoing there?

Effort building to remove Trump via 25th Amendment:

 

Members of the House Judiciary Committee are urging Vice President Mike Pence and members from President Trump’s Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment to the US Constitution and remove Trump from office, according to a statement released Wednesday night by the committee members.

 

“Even in his video announcement this afternoon, President Trump revealed that he is not mentally sound and is still unable to process and accept the results of the 2020 election. President Trump’s willingness to incite violence and social unrest to overturn the election results by force clearly meet this standard. So too are his recent Tweets, which Twitter has since deleted, saying the election was ‘stolen’ and that today’s riots ‘are the things and events that happen,’” the members said in the statement.

 

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/congress-electoral-college-vote-count-2021/index.html

You can even follow your conspiracy dreams in America. Lock all of them up for 10 years. They are the real 'thugs' threatening lives in America.

It's over.  The senate has killed the objection to the election.  Brought up by politicians who care more about themselves than the people they represent.

 

Biden is president

Harris is VP

 

The fat lady sung.  Again.

 

P.S.  a lot who said they would support the objection, turned.  Horrible politicians.

8 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Various media sources, including CNN, are saying that Pence and Cabinet Officials are discussing whether to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove 45.

diminished capacity?

Sometimes called the Twinkie Defense

Could be a nice little package to dismiss DT, making Pence #46 for a few days, and he could pardon DT, that poor troubled man, out of kindness for his mental affliction.  I don't think DT will like that sentiment but hell, it's a walk, isn't it?

On the other hand Pence might let loose the nukes because Jesus told him to.  ????

 

 

A number of inflammatory posts and replies have been removed, please do not think you can come on here and behave the same way as the people being discussed, you can not, and you will be suspended.

22 minutes ago, toolpush said:

What democracy? America was founded as a republic.

Can a republic not be a democracy?

4 hours ago, Kadilo said:

The only true thing Trump said in his video tweet was that the rioters were “special”

Then maybe they should be on the "special bus".Didn't they make a movie "One who flew over the cuckoo's nest"?I think they had a special bus in the movie.

I do believe that a lot of the people who stormed the Capital Hill building will be arrested

and charged, because of the people who work there got very affected by today's events,.

Joe Biden is the only one who has been saying how this was wrong in so many ways.

  And Trump did not ever tell his supporters to go home and quit their BS. He continued

to say how he was cheated in this election, and therefore, Trump

should be held totally responsible for all of todays situation. I think that even Pence will

say a few things differently in the future.

Geezer

2 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

I do believe that a lot of the people who stormed the Capital Hill building will be arrested

and charged, because of the people who work there got very affected by today's events,.

Joe Biden is the only one who has been saying how this was wrong in so many ways.

  And Trump did not ever tell his supporters to go home and quit their BS. He continued

to say how he was cheated in this election, and therefore, Trump

should be held totally responsible for all of todays situation. I think that even Pence will

say a few things differently in the future.

Geezer

 

Not going to happen.  Just watch.

A well-known QAnon influencer dubbed the 'Q Shaman' played a highly visible role in the Capitol siege

 

This is one of the terrorist leaders. Say a lot about the followers....a lot!

 

Trump is a man of deceit, foul play, a traitor to his nation, and a man so lacking in compassion, character, allegiance, loyalty, kindness, generosity, fidelity, heart and soul. He is morally bankrupt. His ex associates know that. The thousands of small contractors who have sued him for money owed know that. There is no doubt that Trump is the opposite of a patriot, there is no doubt that Trump is a coward and a traitor, who will sell out his nation to despotic dictators, and who will deny aid to faithful allies. Thankfully we have just a few more weeks left of this nonsense and then he will be in gloriously ushered out of Washington to a life of humiliation, a completely radioactive name that nobody in their right mind is ever going to want to touch, and a crumbling mini empire. That is just what he deserves, that is what he's worked hard for and that is something that the world will celebrate. There is no honor in his game.

 

If anyone had a doubt, the call to his hooligans, to march on the capitol, was a reminder of how unpatriotic this man is. Using a false agenda to attack the capitol. Lock him up. The sooner the better. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Trump] still has the codes for:

 

-Mk-12A ICBMs carrying 600 W78 nukes, each with a yield of 335 kilotons

 

-Mk-21/SERV ICBMs carrying 200 W87 nukes, each with a yield of 300 kilotons

 

-Ohio-class subs carrying Trident II SLBMs, including Mk-4A missiles carrying 1486 W76 nukes with 90 kiloton yield, and Mk-5 missiles carrying 384 W88 nukes with a yield of 455 kilotons

 

-B-52H bombers carrying ALCMs with 528 W80-1 warheads with 150 kiloton yield

 

-B-2A bombers carrying 322 B61-7 nukes with 400 kiloton yield

 

In comparison, the Hiroshima bomb had a yield of between 12 and 18 kilotons

 

Invoke the 25th Amendment now!

 

 

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

King George III in 1776 thought of American patriots the same way you think of American patriots today.  No different.  Lots of people in America during that time who sided with the British.  All depends on what side of the fence you're on.  Or, to put it another way, it's simply a matter of perspective.  Granted, one perspective in this case is seriously out of whack.

1776 was about freedom from tyranny and taxation without representation. 2021 is about supporting a fake populist cult leader whose only legislative success was to give tax breaks to the wealthy. 

 

A revolution to maintain the status quo is not a revolution. So much false equivalence. So much winning.