2 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

Can you say the name of the VPN?

SurfShark. The specific pricing plan I bought it on is no longer offered but they have other similar discount options.

 

Full disclosure: I did have some issues with it in the first six months or so. There were a few times when it stopped working, although they did provide fixes when I reported it. It's been pretty reliable for about a year now.

Just caught a re-run of last night's game Ukraine v Cyprus. 4-0 to Ukraine in front of a big and happy crowd. They looked very good on the attack. Points of interest for English fans:

Yarmolenko scored 2 and got a standing ovation when subbed late on.

Zinchenko played the full 90 on the left of a midfield three, his normal position in the national team.

Shevchenko is the manager and seems to be an inspirational figure.

Possible dark horses.

3 hours ago, Johnny Mac said:

100% bang on. Southgate has let himself down badly, I thought he had a bit more about him and was intelligent enough to 'get it' but no. Critisizing the fans for booing is the same as saying they can't have an opinion. Disgraceful. It's a real shame that this nonsense is going to overshadow the football.

The kneeling is no longer linked to the Black Lives Matter movement and the players no longer have the BLM name on their shirts as they did when it first started.

 

It's now just a gesture indicating disapproval of discrimination and racism of all sorts and in favour of greater equality. Southgate went to great lengths to explain this after the first game. So anybody who boos the players now, is indicating that either a) they just don't understand the message or b) they're OK with racial discrimination and inequality in general.

33 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The kneeling is no longer linked to the Black Lives Matter movement and the players no longer have the BLM name on their shirts as they did when it first started.

 

It's now just a gesture indicating disapproval of discrimination and racism of all sorts and in favour of greater equality. Southgate went to great lengths to explain this after the first game. So anybody who boos the players now, is indicating that either a) they just don't understand the message or b) they're OK with racial discrimination and inequality in general.

 

Southgate can say what he wants, taking the knee has long been synonymous with BLM. As most people know (even the so called "stupid" fans) BLM is a radical left wing political movement and should never had anything to do with football. We already had the "Kick it out" campaign to deal with racism in football, which was very successful and there was no booing from fans, only support. Same as the fans cheer their team's black players week in week out. Same as they chant the black players names and ask for the black players autographs.  

 

Even black players like Wilifred Zaha have distanced themselves from this pointless gesture.

 

Southgate's virtue signaling only creates an 'us and them' feeling between the fans and the players and it could well undermine the whole England campaign. Essentially he is saying he and his team can make their point but the fans must simply shut up and not make theirs. The plebs are there to pay the players wages and support the team, not to have a voice. Stupidity beyond belief. But the fool has backed himself into a corner now, so the divisiveness will continue.

 

Fans go to watch football, not be re-educated according to some left wing, woke doctrine. I couldn't agree more with the article below, I hope the booing continues until this ridiculous posturing stops.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/03/three-cheers-for-the-booing-england-fans/

 

 

 

 

 

55 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Southgate can say what he wants, taking the knee has long been synonymous with BLM. As most people know (even the so called "stupid" fans) BLM is a radical left wing political movement and should never had anything to do with football. We already had the "Kick it out" campaign to deal with racism in football, which was very successful and there was no booing from fans, only support. Same as the fans cheer their team's black players week in week out. Same as they chant the black players names and ask for the black players autographs.  

 

Even black players like Wilifred Zaha have distanced themselves from this pointless gesture.

 

Southgate's virtue signaling only creates an 'us and them' feeling between the fans and the players and it could well undermine the whole England campaign. Essentially he is saying he and his team can make their point but the fans must simply shut up and not make theirs. The plebs are there to pay the players wages and support the team, not to have a voice. Stupidity beyond belief. But the fool has backed himself into a corner now, so the divisiveness will continue.

 

Fans go to watch football, not be re-educated according to some left wing, woke doctrine. I couldn't agree more with the article below, I hope the booing continues until this ridiculous posturing stops.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/06/03/three-cheers-for-the-booing-england-fans/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely nailed it. Exactly how I would have liked to have said but couldn't have done it as well as that. How 1 or 2 posters on this thread still can't get it just leaves me totally bemused, they really do believe that the fans booing are racist, even though as you say they support the black players at every other turn on and off the pitch.

 

Southgate has let himself down in a big way.

2 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

SurfShark. The specific pricing plan I bought it on is no longer offered but they have other similar discount options.

 

Full disclosure: I did have some issues with it in the first six months or so. There were a few times when it stopped working, although they did provide fixes when I reported it. It's been pretty reliable for about a year now.

I am with Surfshark and most things work fine I just have a issue with the live TV option on ITV Hub I always get the error message 001 but the on demand on ITV Hub works fine do you have the same problem ?

1 minute ago, Chad91 said:

I am with Surfshark and most things work fine I just have a issue with the live TV option on ITV Hub I always get the error message 001 but the on demand on ITV Hub works fine do you have the same problem ?

Same here....use Express VPN.....everything else is fine, even iPlayer which is now in HD.

33 minutes ago, Chad91 said:

I am with Surfshark and most things work fine I just have a issue with the live TV option on ITV Hub I always get the error message 001 but the on demand on ITV Hub works fine do you have the same problem ?

I get that problem if I'm using SurfShark on an Android device but on my Windows laptop it's fine.

 

So that's what I use if I want to watch a live stream.

20 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I get that problem if I'm using SurfShark on an Android device but on my Windows laptop it's fine.

 

So that's what I use if I want to watch a live stream.

That will be what it is then as I am using ITV Hub via my android box I will just use my Laptop for ITV in the future. thanks for the info????

1 minute ago, Chad91 said:

That will be what it is then as I am using ITV Hub via my android box I will just use my Laptop for ITV in the future then, thanks for the info????

I did get an annoying amount of buffering in the first half of the England vs Romania game but the second half was virtually buffer-free so I think that was possibly due to my local internet speed (which can be a bit flaky) rather than the VPN.

https://www.uefa.tv/faq

 

Can I watch the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Super Cup, UEFA Europa League, UEFA EURO, UEFA Nations League or UEFA European Qualifiers live on UEFA.tv?

Live matches from the UEFA Champions League, UEFA Super Cup, UEFA Europa League, UEFA EURO, UEFA Nations League and UEFA European Qualifiers are not available for viewing on UEFA.tv.

However, delayed highlights from each of these competitions will be made available on the platform.

For live coverage information related to these competitions, users can access details about the relevant UEFA broadcast partner in their territory on the following page: https://www.uefa.com/tvguide

Despite UEFA saying they don't have any live coverage of those competitions, they did stream The Europa Cup and Champions League matches live to Thailand on UEFA.tv.  I believe their policy is no live streaming to areas where there is a local broadcast of the event, so I am hopeful that they will be streaming EURO 2020 live to Thailand even though they are not  specifically saying so at the moment.

9 minutes ago, delboy said:

Despite UEFA saying they don't have any live coverage of those competitions, they did stream The Europa Cup and Champions League matches live to Thailand on UEFA.tv.  I believe their policy is no live streaming to areas where there is a local broadcast of the event, so I am hopeful that they will be streaming EURO 2020 live to Thailand even though they are not  specifically saying so at the moment.

The difference is that they had said all along that they would be showing the UCL & UEL games.

 

They have said quite clearly that they are not showing the Euro 2020 matches.

 

I'm not sure why they would be lying about it.

On 6/8/2021 at 11:06 AM, champers said:

Just caught a re-run of last night's game Ukraine v Cyprus. 4-0 to Ukraine in front of a big and happy crowd. They looked very good on the attack. Points of interest for English fans:

Yarmolenko scored 2 and got a standing ovation when subbed late on.

Zinchenko played the full 90 on the left of a midfield three, his normal position in the national team.

Shevchenko is the manager and seems to be an inspirational figure.

Possible dark horses.

I,d agree on Ukraine....not sure i could say Dark horses though....perhaps off white??????

Off topic post and response removed

Spain have called up a second 'bubble' of players due to 'Covid in the camp' concerns.  They will be kept away from the original squad. Two players (Busquets/Llorente) definitely infected but there are worries that a number of others may need to self isolate.

IMO

 

Winners: France

 

Dark horses: Portugal

5 hours ago, wilai said:

Spain have called up a second 'bubble' of players due to 'Covid in the camp' concerns.  They will be kept away from the original squad. Two players (Busquets/Llorente) definitely infected but there are worries that a number of others may need to self isolate.

Llorente has now tested negative and could go back to the main squad, say BBC.

 

8 minutes ago, champers said:

Llorente has now tested negative and could go back to the main squad, say BBC.

 

Still getting 'false positives' You'd have thought they had more efficient tests by now!

On the UEFA website the rights holder for Thailand is now showing as NBT. Perhaps we will have the games broadcast here after all. Tonights (2am tomorrow) match is not is the “sports on tv” section of BKK post though. Fingers crossed.

1 hour ago, MartinBKK said:

On the UEFA website the rights holder for Thailand is now showing as NBT. Perhaps we will have the games broadcast here after all. Tonights (2am tomorrow) match is not is the “sports on tv” section of BKK post though. Fingers crossed.

potentially great news!  Many thanks for the update.

4 hours ago, MartinBKK said:

On the UEFA website the rights holder for Thailand is now showing as NBT. Perhaps we will have the games broadcast here after all. Tonights (2am tomorrow) match is not is the “sports on tv” section of BKK post though. Fingers crossed.

You can send a link to that because when I check I still can't see Thailand listed ? Great news if true

 

EDIT : Just seen on Twitter that NBT did indeed do a late deal Great News !! 

Great news. Thanks Chad.

It's the Government wot dun it. Rumours about an early general election must be true. Prayut the football fans' friend.

43 minutes ago, champers said:

It's the Government wot dun it. Rumours about an early general election must be true. Prayut the football fans' friend.

Indeed to prevent anarchy during lockdown

apparently the euros are being shown on channel 2 (NBT). I have this channel so fingers crossed the information is correct!

Just now, greenmonkey said:

apparently the euros are being shown on channel 2 (NBT). I have this channel so fingers crossed the information is correct!

ha i should av scrolled up the page before sharing my post... feel a right tit now... c'mon England!!!!

7 minutes ago, greenmonkey said:

ha i should av scrolled up the page before sharing my post... feel a right tit now... c'mon England!!!!

No worries better to share the info twice than not at all. Good intentions and all. 

 

On 6/1/2021 at 4:24 AM, ChipButty said:

 

As for England nobody knows, you do realise England have not won against a top team in the world cup or the euro's since 1966, ok we beat Spain who were <deleted> then on penalties take a look at the stats all the way back to 66 it's a disgrace 

Currently ranked 4th in the world by FIFA,

 

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/

Watching opening ceremony on NBT. Nessum Dorma. Could've sworn that one of the drummers that came down from the stadium roof was Zlatan Ibrahimovich.