It's D-Day April 1st - new quarantine regulations start today

[Greenwich Boy]

Just got a reply from my proposed ASQ. To paraphrase:

Book for 10 days 11 nights.

Present vaccination cert at airport on arrival. If accepted by the Dept. Disease Control quarantine will be reduced to 8 days and 9 nights. Balance of money refunded.

 

If length of quarantine is decided on arrival the queues at Swampy will be fun.

 

For info my original 15 night package was 45k. The 11 night is 34k. Fair enough.

[richard_smith237]

12 minutes ago, Greenwich Boy said:

Just got a reply from my proposed ASQ. To paraphrase:

Book for 10 days 11 nights.

Present vaccination cert at airport on arrival. If accepted by the Dept. Disease Control quarantine will be reduced to 8 days and 9 nights. Balance of money refunded.

 

If length of quarantine is decided on arrival the queues at Swampy will be fun.

 

For info my original 15 night package was 45k. The 11 night is 34k. Fair enough.

 

The queues on arrival are the same as they have been arriving under CoE conditions. 

 

1st Check point: Walk of the plane sit in rows - someone checks all documents

 

2nd Check point: In groups of 10 queue up, have temp taken, queue up at a counter, present all documents and get processed (CoE duration is decided then, CoE is taken, all other documents returned along with another Paper dictating duration of Quarantine, the TM8 form is also stamped with the duration of Quarantine).

 

3rd ‘Check point’: Wait until all in the group of 10 have been processed. Then get escorted to the next check point, near immigration

 

4th ‘Check point’: CoE check point, hand over all documents for Immigration officers to check over (although the CoE letter has been taken prior to this, its called the CoE check point ! (go figure !), officers ‘check something’ on their computers, after a few mins.... go to Immigration. 

 

5th ‘Check point: Immigration. This is standard immigration but for some reason takes slightly longer than normal.

 

Go pick up baggage and exit through customs. 

 

6th ‘check point: ASQ meeting point - Meet and Greet ASQ staff and get taken to the car. 

 

 

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Thus: the only extra process is checking the Vaccination certificate which will add no more than a few mins to the already existing queues at suvarnabumi - Most entries into the Kingdom under the CoE process are actually faster than the previous queues one had to wait in for the regular immigration process !

 

 

 

 

[GaryAdriaenssens]

TAKE COVER, FOLKS...... THEY'RE COMING!

[richard_smith237]

11 minutes ago, GaryAdriaenssens said:

TAKE COVER, FOLKS...... THEY'RE COMING!

 

Who ??

 

[candide]

42 minutes ago, Greenwich Boy said:

Just got a reply from my proposed ASQ. To paraphrase:

Book for 10 days 11 nights.

Present vaccination cert at airport on arrival. If accepted by the Dept. Disease Control quarantine will be reduced to 8 days and 9 nights. Balance of money refunded.

 

If length of quarantine is decided on arrival the queues at Swampy will be fun.

 

For info my original 15 night package was 45k. The 11 night is 34k. Fair enough.

9 nights for 7 days quarantine! Bastards!

[Greenwich Boy]

43 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The queues on arrival are the same as they have been arriving under CoE conditions. 

 

1st Check point: Walk of the plane sit in rows - someone checks all documents

 

2nd Check point: In groups of 10 queue up, have temp taken, queue up at a counter, present all documents and get processed (CoE duration is decided then, CoE is taken, all other documents returned along with another Paper dictating duration of Quarantine, the TM8 form is also stamped with the duration of Quarantine).

 

3rd ‘Check point’: Wait until all in the group of 10 have been processed. Then get escorted to the next check point, near immigration

 

4th ‘Check point’: CoE check point, hand over all documents for Immigration officers to check over (although the CoE letter has been taken prior to this, its called the CoE check point ! (go figure !), officers ‘check something’ on their computers, after a few mins.... go to Immigration. 

 

5th ‘Check point: Immigration. This is standard immigration but for some reason takes slightly longer than normal.

 

Go pick up baggage and exit through customs. 

 

6th ‘check point: ASQ meeting point - Meet and Greet ASQ staff and get taken to the car. 

 

 

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Thus: the only extra process is checking the Vaccination certificate which will add no more than a few mins to the already existing queues at suvarnabumi - Most entries into the Kingdom under the CoE process are actually faster than the previous queues one had to wait in for the regular immigration process !

 

 

 

 

Good to hear that from someone who has gone through the process. Thank You.

Positive changes and now I have had both jabs happy to book. If quarantine is a necessary part then so be it.

[richard_smith237]

Greenwhich Boy.... I’d double check with your ASQ hotel again... 8 days and 9 nights seems like 1 day too much for a quarantine period for someone who is vaccinated. 

 

 

This is how the 14 day, 10 day and 7 day quarantine periods pan out (or should).

[Jumbo1968]

Has Thailand confirmed what is acceptable as a Vaccine Certificate ?

[kimamey]

17 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I agree with you that it's a step in the right direction, and I'm happy to see that. 

 

But I would imagine the majority of tourists from countries like the UK take a holiday for 1 month or less. Spending at least 25% of your trip banged up in a hotel watching TV, and potentially facing quarantine on return to the home country would put most of those tourists off. Plus you have the added risk of rules changing as they go along, or over officious customs officers at Swampy potentially blocking your entry. 

 

Would be interesting to know how much of the Thai tourism $ is made up of the 2-4 week western holiday makers, because I really don't think they'll come until quarantines are gone completely. 

You're right about the 2-4 week tourists and it would be nice to know what proportion of visitors they are. However that shouldn't stop those who stay slightly longer or who live here all or most of the time and they will at least contribute more if they are in Thailand rather than in their home countries.

 

Here again I don't know the actual figures but don't most of the tourists come in the cooler months and avoid the hot and rainy seasons which are about now anyway. My wife works for a civil government department and they often make use of hotels and resorts out of the main season for meetings because they can get a good deal when the tourists aren't there in such numbers. The first hotel I ever stayed in when I first came to meet her was the Bangkok Palace. I had no idea which of the mass of Bangkok hotels to book so she suggested one she knew. A few years later we stayed at what is now the Centara Koh Chang Tropicana Resort on Kho Chang because she'd stayed there for work during the rainy season. and last year it was the Emerald Hotel in Bangkok for the same reason.

[kimamey]

11 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

Is your sense of humour in quarantine?

Well it sounded sarcastic to me but who can tell these days. I was just pointing out that it was a pretty narrow view of the situation but if I've offended you then I apologise. ????

[KhaoYai]

7 hours ago, VBF said:

As i said the "NHS App" is just a link so no reason why you couldn't print it, in the same way you could print THIS page on which we're now writing.

But what would it prove if you did?

That is exactly my point. To the best of my knowledge no Vaccine Certificate is available in the UK at the moment so we will just have to see how things develop.

[KhaoYai]

13 hours ago, scorecard said:

I mentioned TV, I was referring to ThaiVisa.com Forums commonly known as TV.

Yes, I was aware of that - and of all the stuff you posted, thanks.  I must have misuderstood, I thought you were going to illustrate why 14 Day quarantine is actually 16.

 

 

[Fairynuff]

5 hours ago, kimamey said:

Well it sounded sarcastic to me but who can tell these days. I was just pointing out that it was a pretty narrow view of the situation but if I've offended you then I apologise. ????

I WAS being sarcastic, and no need to apologise 

[KhaoYai]

7 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

This is how the 14 day, 10 day and 7 day quarantine periods pan out (or should).

Thanks for that - I understand now.  So when they say for example '7 Day Quarantine' - what they mean is that you must spend 7 FULL days in quarantine from (from 00.01 on the first day and in theory be released after midnight on day 7 - therefore day 8).

 

I will try to avoid arriving early in the morning as the rest of that day is just wasted.

[Henryford]

What does that 14 day vaccinated rule mean. Do the vaccinations have had to be done within 14 days of the visit (almost impossible) or more than 14 days before the visit. Also is there a time limit on the vacs so they become invalid if more than say 3 months old.

[wn78]

On 4/1/2021 at 3:15 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Thaiest.com states the ppl can use the pool to swim etc after the first negative Covid test....  no hotel I communicated with is allowing that. 
 

Definitely plenty of misinformation floating around, 

 

The Thai embassy in US website says:

While undergoing quarantine, travelers will be allowed to engage in leisure activities subject to time and conditions granted by the Ministry of Public Health of Thailand namely exercising in the fitness room, outdoor exercising, swimming, bicycling within a controlled area, and ordering goods and food from outside,.

 

I wonder if there is the official statement of the Ministry posted somewhere, so we can reference when communicating with hotels.

 

 

[scorecard]

On 4/1/2021 at 7:05 PM, RichardColeman said:

Let's face it, nearly all of us stranded outside are just going to grin and bare it and wait till October and hopefully some sort of normality if their plans work out. With constant and potential change from Thailand  - and our own regions - it's not worth the hassle yet. Even the airlines are still yoyo'ing

 

OK, but will large numbers of tourists come to a country which so far is achieving very slow progress at mass immunization with little evidence that the slow progress will improve?

 

Plus there seems to be little realistic/logical planning of which groups have priority. So far politicians seem to have highest priority, surely this is not appropriate.   

 

My Family in Thailand have been trying to use the app which citizens are asked to use to register, so far app. doesn't seem to work.

[candide]

Personally, I could do with a 7 days quarantine as I am able to stay 2 or 3 months. The problem now is to be allowed to go by my home country. It's currently difficult in France, It's only allowed for specific motives such as family, health, etc...

[scorecard]

On 4/1/2021 at 5:14 PM, beano2274 said:

so a family of 2 adults and one child, the adults who have been vaccinated but as no children are permitted to be vaccinated would have to stay for 10 days in Quarantine, a majority of tourists will have children so 10 days in quarantine whatever.

 

 Is 10 days your assumption or have you checked this with the appropriate gov't., agency?

[richard_smith237]

7 hours ago, wn78 said:

 

The Thai embassy in US website says:

While undergoing quarantine, travelers will be allowed to engage in leisure activities subject to time and conditions granted by the Ministry of Public Health of Thailand namely exercising in the fitness room, outdoor exercising, swimming, bicycling within a controlled area, and ordering goods and food from outside,.

 

I wonder if there is the official statement of the Ministry posted somewhere, so we can reference when communicating with hotels.

 

 

 

That would be good...  I’m in an ASQ now, the pool is barricaded off, so it looks like I won’t be able to use it after the first negative test anyway. 

 

As usual, the information ‘source’ is lacking and information clarity is absent 

[candide]

I found out there's a model of vaccine certificate by the WHO, which should be recognised internationally. It may be useful in countries where there's no way to get an official certificate in English (I.e. France).

It should be signed by the vaccine administering institution. I will try to get it signed when I get my second jab.

https://www.who.int/ihr/ports_airports/icvp/en/

 

[scorecard]

21 hours ago, Henryford said:

What does that 14 day vaccinated rule mean. Do the vaccinations have had to be done within 14 days of the visit (almost impossible) or more than 14 days before the visit. Also is there a time limit on the vacs so they become invalid if more than say 3 months old.

 

For a few days the media reports were saying that if your arrival date is more than 90 days (3 months) after your vaccine completion date then your vaccination is not accepted. 

 

But in the last couple of days the 90 day (3 months) item is no longer mentioned. Perhaps that means that there is now a general acceptance by the Thai authorities (and perhaps the WHO/other advanced countries) that the protection from the vaccine is more than 90 days/3 months. Hope so. 

[wn78]

On 4/3/2021 at 9:50 AM, candide said:

I found out there's a model of vaccine certificate by the WHO, which should be recognised internationally. It may be useful in countries where there's no way to get an official certificate in English (I.e. France).

It should be signed by the vaccine administering institution. I will try to get it signed when I get my second jab.

https://www.who.int/ihr/ports_airports/icvp/en/

 

 

The way ICVP is laid out, there is only one official space to write in the disease against which the vaccine administered, and it's universally used for Yellow Fever.  There is additional space on the back for more vaccines but it's for your record only.  I also did not see any WHO guidance, and no mention of vaccination clinics issuing these for covid vaccines.  But if your vaccination clinic can do this, it's definitely better than some one-off printout. 

 

In the US the CDC card looks official enough to me.  

 

[wn78]

On 4/3/2021 at 7:01 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

That would be good...  I’m in an ASQ now, the pool is barricaded off, so it looks like I won’t be able to use it after the first negative test anyway. 

 

As usual, the information ‘source’ is lacking and information clarity is absent 

 

I inquired one ASQ hotel about swimming and pointed them to the embassy update, but their reply was that the Ministry rule still allows swimming in private pools only.   

 

But they do allow outside food.