Picture: Daily News

 

A 33 year old trucker carrying trash from Nakhon Ratchasima for processing at the TPI cement factory said he experienced brake failure in heavy rain going down Klang Dong hill on Mitraphap Highway yesterday.

 

Heading towards Saraburi between KM markers 36 and 37 the truck trailer slammed into 27 other vehicles overturning several.

 

Klang Dong police and rescue officials from several foundations sealed the road in order to take care of victims who were taken to two area hospitals. 

 

Picture: Daily News

 

Somboon Waempracha was charged with negligent driving causing injury and damage to property. 

 

Daily News did not report on the number of injuries. 

 

The area is well known as an accident blackspot with many signs warning motorists to take care, notes Thaivisa. 

 

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8 minutes ago, webfact said:

experienced brake failure in heavy rain going down Klang Dong hill

This is one of the RARE instances where I'm not going to immediately blame the driver.  The rain was crazy, it's hard to really "test" your brakes beforehand, and when your brakes go..........well, it's too late.  

 

I could ask for service records, etc......but let's not get crazy now.  

 

i'm sure we'll blame him later, maybe going too fast for conditions, etc....but I've had brakes go before in a western country......not an accident, but scary.  

may be you are right. I will not blame him for now. But what are the odds?

58 minutes ago, webfact said:

the truck trailer slammed into 27 other vehicles overturning several.

Did'nt mess around, did he?

1 hour ago, Ventenio said:

This is one of the RARE instances where I'm not going to immediately blame the driver.  The rain was crazy, it's hard to really "test" your brakes beforehand, and when your brakes go..........well, it's too late.  

 

I could ask for service records, etc......but let's not get crazy now.  

 

i'm sure we'll blame him later, maybe going too fast for conditions, etc....but I've had brakes go before in a western country......not an accident, but scary.  

Another <deleted> thai truck driver maybe on THE YABBA

Do they not have exhaust brakes over here? Are they not taught how to drive HGVs? Are they not taught to approach steep hills in the rain in lower gears especially if fully loaded? It seems to me that with all these kinds of accidents that lack of proper training springs to mind!

The speed and momemtum to hit 27 !!! What the hell was he doing, nowhere to run out or avoid 27 ? Really ?.......

We haven’t had one of those for a while (brake failure that is)... 

 

... I was starting to think that the covid virus was somehow slowing down all these drivers who overheat their brakes when speeding down hills.... ????

1 hour ago, Ventenio said:

This is one of the RARE instances where I'm not going to immediately blame the driver.  The rain was crazy, it's hard to really "test" your brakes beforehand, and when your brakes go..........well, it's too late.  

 

I could ask for service records, etc......but let's not get crazy now.  

 

i'm sure we'll blame him later, maybe going too fast for conditions, etc....but I've had brakes go before in a western country......not an accident, but scary.  

 

You experienced brake failure but had no accident... Why ??? - could it be that you were not already driving too fast for conditions in a heavy vehicle ?

 

Asking for the service records of the vehicle is a good idea. 

 

Its the same story every time and I’m sure this story is no different: An assumption: Un trained driver riding the brakes down the hill instead of using the lowest gear, going too fast in poor conditions until the inevitable happened.... 

 

Why is brake failure so common in Thailand ?

- Any somchai can become a lorry driver, there is no HGV training.

- Poor vehicle maintenance

- Overworked drivers 

- Drivers forced to rush

- In effective policing

 

No consequences for the company who employ untrained drivers in poorly maintained vehicles. 

 

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

We haven’t had one of those for a while (brake failure that is)... 

 

... I was starting to think that the covid virus was somehow slowing down all these drivers who overheat their brakes when speeding down hills.... ????

Plus and I am not 100% certain about this but I think he is now ranked number one in the "Wrecking Cars in One incident" charts, well done at 27.????

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

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Why is brake failure so common in Thailand ?

- Any somchai can become a lorry driver, there is no HGV training.

Is there really no HGV training here?

 

Is there just a test - no test - no training?

Does that mean you can drive an HGV with a car licence?

It's a straight question, as I don't know.

22 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Is there really no HGV training here?

 

Is there just a test - no test - no training?

Does that mean you can drive an HGV with a car licence?

It's a straight question, as I don't know.

You beat me to it. Exactly what I was going to ask. Having been an HGV driver in UK and Europe for 30 odd years I am totally amazed that any person can just drive a 50tonne truck around with no training!! Something not right here.

 

On 4/27/2021 at 11:17 AM, worrab said:

Do they not have exhaust brakes over here?

No! They have been replaced by <deleted> excuses!

13 minutes ago, worrab said:

You beat me to it. Exactly what I was going to ask. Having been an HGV driver in UK and Europe for 30 odd years I am totally amazed that any person can just drive a 50tonne truck around with no training!! Something not right here.

 

Regarding traffic regulations and observance, is there anything right here? ????

Accident blackspot.

 

Heavy rain.

 

 

How fast was the nutter driving? 

Speeding and not paying attention to road.

Using Phone.

Asleep.

Outright Lie 

Take your pick, or any combination.

 

 

3 hours ago, Ventenio said:

This is one of the RARE instances where I'm not going to immediately blame the driver.  The rain was crazy, it's hard to really "test" your brakes beforehand, and when your brakes go..........well, it's too late.  

 

I could ask for service records, etc......but let's not get crazy now.  

 

i'm sure we'll blame him later, maybe going too fast for conditions, etc....but I've had brakes go before in a western country......not an accident, but scary.  

All you need to do is keep your foot lighty on the brakes,that will quickly

dry them out, I don't suppose the police ever check if these trucks really

have faulty brakes... It's just the drivers blame the truck, its never them

going too fast for the conditions, not changing gears to slow down, 

regards Worgeordie

I don't know this are at all but looking at the pics. where is the hill ?  I only see flat in the back ground but like I said  never been to Nakhon Anywhere.

Oh , I thought brake failure was soo last year.

1 hour ago, bluesofa said:

Does that mean you can drive an HGV with a car licence?

No.

Weight and straight or artic truck make the class difference

Medical every 2 years ? - can't remember. Been a while since I inquired of getting my Class One here

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Somboon Waempracha was charged with negligent driving causing injury and damage to property. 

I'd like to think that he and his company will be hit with a fine of the total cost of all the cars, the hospital bills, compensation for stress and the police and emergency costs. 

 

Reality though I am sure will be a lot , lot less. God knows how Thailand insurance companies survive

The hub of brake brain failure

2 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Is there really no HGV training here?

 

Is there just a test - no test - no training?

Does that mean you can drive an HGV with a car licence?

It's a straight question, as I don't know.

The answer is....all of the above ????

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

All you need to do is keep your foot lighty on the brakes,that will quickly

dry them out, I don't suppose the police ever check if these trucks really

have faulty brakes... It's just the drivers blame the truck, its never them

going too fast for the conditions, not changing gears to slow down, 

regards Worgeordie

The Police would not know what they were looking for here.  To be able to check HGV and bus brake systems you need specialist trained officers. The average BIB would have no idea

1 hour ago, canthai55 said:

No.

Weight and straight or artic truck make the class difference

Medical every 2 years ? - can't remember. Been a while since I inquired of getting my Class One here

What do you have to do to obtain your Class 1 over here?

14 minutes ago, worrab said:

What do you have to do to obtain your Class 1 over here?

If the rest is any guage, probably just a pulse !

Is "negligent driving causing injury" a criminal offence? Or is it just like most other driving offences?

 

The guy just had an accident.

 

He wasn't drunk.

 

He didn't run a red light. He wasn't charged with speeding. Although, I would say running a red light and speeding are both forms of negligent driving as well.

 

I am just curious about the "legality" of this charge, cos really it was just an accident (causing damage and, injury, but most accidents do)

 

 

3 hours ago, worrab said:

You beat me to it. Exactly what I was going to ask. Having been an HGV driver in UK and Europe for 30 odd years I am totally amazed that any person can just drive a 50tonne truck around with no training!! Something not right here.

 

Almost nothing is right here !

6 hours ago, Ventenio said:

This is one of the RARE instances where I'm not going to immediately blame the driver.  The rain was crazy, it's hard to really "test" your brakes beforehand, and when your brakes go..........well, it's too late.  

 

I could ask for service records, etc......but let's not get crazy now.  

 

i'm sure we'll blame him later, maybe going too fast for conditions, etc....but I've had brakes go before in a western country......not an accident, but scary.  

In 45 years of driving, not only have I never had brake failure in any vehicle I have been driving , I have never heard of anyone in the west who has. Its a common excuse here, trotted out every time the driver has been drunk, drugged, on his phone or driving too fast. 

35 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

In 45 years of driving, not only have I never had brake failure in any vehicle I have been driving , I have never heard of anyone in the west who has. Its a common excuse here, trotted out every time the driver has been drunk, drugged, on his phone or driving too fast. 

It has been said many times before the problem is a failure to brake, for numerous reasons.

37 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

In 45 years of driving, not only have I never had brake failure in any vehicle I have been driving , I have never heard of anyone in the west who has. Its a common excuse here, trotted out every time the driver has been drunk, drugged, on his phone or driving too fast. 

In the UK there is, or was, a charge of failing to maintain a vehicle in a roadworthy condition. I know cos I was hit with it on an old moggie. Suspension collapsed on one side. Went through the hedge and out the other side. Doh!