Please Do Not be like this Guy

[sqwakvfr]

This morning I was having a pleasant breakfast at a well known restaurant that is very close to Pantip Plaza.  The employees are great and the food is always good.  There was an old guy who had just finished his meal and placed a torn 20 Baht note under his plate and told the waitress this  her tip.  After he had walked out the waitress noticed the 20 Baht note had actually been torn in two pieces.  I could tell by the look on her face that she was disappointed. But she cleared the plates and cleaned the table.

 

Seeing this <deleted> me off.  In the middle of what appears to be the never ending pandemic people in the service industry appreciate any kind of a tip.  But I doubt a 20 Baht note torn in two pieces is really appreciated(but I could be wrong).  

 

It would have been better to not have left a tip at all if all one has is a 20 Baht note that was torn in two pieces.  I am a frequent customer at this restaurant and all the waitresses display something that is rare in LOS:  Good customer service.  

 

After finishing my pancake and eggs, I paid my bill and left an extra tip to show my appreciation.  

 

If you can be please be a little extra generous to those who provide a service to you or your family(especially now).  

[timendres]

Feel free to hand me all of your cash that is torn in two pieces.

[RichardColeman]

My wife leaves the tips - usually all the unwanted change in her purse

[up-country_sinclair]

21 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

There was an old guy who had just finished his meal and placed a torn 20 Baht note under his plate and told the waitress this  her tip.  After he had walked out the waitress noticed the 20 Baht note had actually been torn in two pieces.  I could tell by the look on her face that she was disappointed. But she cleared the plates and cleaned the table.

 

Inexcusably poor behavior.

That said, it's quite an aggressive act, and it would be interesting to know his side of the story.

[worgeordie]

Wish I had a truck load, money is money, and that's maybe

all the old fella had.....a none event really.

regards Worgeordie

[toofarnorth]

3 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

My wife leaves the tips - usually all the unwanted change in her purse

Please to say that 2 nights ago we went to a place called Pizza Corner , no one else there when we arrived , no one else there when we left after a slow meal.   I always leave a tip but this time Pim added 20 B of her own as she felt sad at no one else coming to eat there.

As for change , my wife fills my purse with any change she has, only goes out with notes.

[kynikoi]

Maybe like myself normally leaves nothing but a note tore in half on him and he was too lazy to fix it or he had no tape at home. With a piece of tape the waitress had b20 about 30mins of work for her.

 

Petty

[OneMoreFarang]

There are and always will be a$@holes around us. I think the best is to ignore them.

[canthai55]

19 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

my wife fills my purse

I ain't touching that !

[FolkGuitar]

Perhaps this guy normally would leave 10 baht as a tip, but discovered the torn 20 and was just too lazy to take it to the bank himself, decided to try to be nice to the waitress and give her a little extra. If the waitress was upset because someone left her a 20 baht tip... in a culture that traditionally only tips left-over coins... that tells me more about her than him.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

guy who had just finished his meal and placed a torn 20 Baht note under his plate and told the waitress this  her tip.  After he had walked out the waitress noticed the 20 Baht note had actually been torn in two pieces

"...had actually been torn in two pieces".

Are you claiming that he left a B20 note (an acceptable tip to Thais) that was actually in two pieces or that it had been torn and was now taped up?  There's a difference, one being B20 and the other being B20 that she could tape together, either way, it's a B20 tip and nothing to get aeriated about.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[moldresistant]

Try another point of view.

 

Your staring at the waitress and other customer(s) could be seen as more offensive than the torn twenty.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

the waitresses display something that is rare in LOS:  Good customer service.  

Nonsense as a generalisation.

[Liverpool Lou]

50 minutes ago, up-country_sinclair said:

t's quite an aggressive act,

What's so "aggressive" about it?

[moldresistant]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What's so "aggressive" about it?

Actually OP staring at people, and getting <deleted> off, seems more aggressive to me.

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

After finishing my pancake and eggs, I paid my bill and left an extra tip to show my appreciation. 

Good for you but you've now set yourself a precedent there!   How much 'appreciation' did you leave her?

Edited April 27, 2021 by Liverpool Lou

[Ventenio]

i usually give THINGS to old or young people.   Almost always clothes.  Cold weather gear, shoes, old electronic stuff......it's random with me.  probably given away 50,000 baht worth of stuff (used prices).  

 

massage, tip.   food, depends.   usually not.

 

i'm not sure this warrants a thread.....seems whatever.  

 

NOW.... If the threw his food on the ground, did a runner, and then got naked and tried to swim .....  then that is a post.

 

falangs not wearing masks in 711 is worse than this

[WineOh]

Tipping is not mandatory in Thailand.

 

This is not the USA.

[Fromas]

I'd give the old man the benefit of the doubt.

[Liverpool Lou]

5 minutes ago, WineOh said:

Tipping is not mandatory in Thailand.

 

This is not the USA.

Tipping is not mandatory in the US, either, but a small appreciation is expected and usually given here.

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Tipping is not mandatory in the US, either, but a small appreciation is expected and usually given here.

Have you been in the USA? Most service establishments pay minimum wage or less. Tipping 10 -20% is expected practice. It's a significant part of income. Even hotel room cleaners expect something.

True, it's not mandatory. But as a waiter there once said to me, if you don't leave a tip, don't come back. Because it's very likely if they remember, nasty things will happen.

[up-country_sinclair]

29 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What's so "aggressive" about it?

 

I just re-read the OP, and It turns out I read it incorrectly.  I thought he had ripped the note into two pieces and left it as a tip. This is why I wanted to know his side of the story. Upon re-reading, it only says that the note had been torn.

 

So, to "that guy" in Chiang Mai, please accept my apologies for accusing you of being aggressive.  You might also think about being kinder to people in the service industry.  

[wprime]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Have you been in the USA? Most service establishments pay minimum wage or less. Tipping 10 -20% is expected practice. It's a significant part of income. Even hotel room cleaners expect something.

True, it's not mandatory. But as a waiter there once said to me, if you don't leave a tip, don't come back. Because it's very likely if they remember, nasty things will happen.

 

So what you're saying is tipping is only mandatory if you plan to visit the establishment again.

[Curt1591]

 

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

I could tell by the look on her face that she was disappointed.

Just possibly it was the fact that the king's face is on the currency. At least inthe past, Thais have taken the handling of money very seriously because of that. 

[4MyEgo]

I have always been one to tip moderately, e.g. 20 baht, although I have tipped 100 baht when the service is exceptional, no wife didn't tell me to put my tongue back in because of the waitress serving us.

 

The above said, if my wife says she is paying, I do try to discourage her, because here comes the loose coins and most times they barley reach the 20 baht mark.

 

Just the fact that the guy left a 20 baht tip IMO is better than most not tipping, I am sure the old guy didn't expect the waitress to take offence, if I ever saw a waitress roll her eyes form receiving a tip, I would make sure she would get one next time.

[Lacessit]

5 minutes ago, wprime said:

 

So what you're saying is tipping is only mandatory if you plan to visit the establishment again.

I keep it simple, I don't tip if I am dissatisfied with the service, and I never go back either.

I'd suggest anyone staying in a US town would run out of places to go if they never tipped.

As far as Thailand is concerned, I tip because I know what staff earn here, and their earnings are miniscule.

[AlfHuy]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

My wife leaves the tips - usually all the unwanted change in her purse

My GF usually takes all the "coins" out of my pockets and I never see them again.

[AlfHuy]

1 hour ago, canthai55 said:

I ain't touching that !

Wrong way around.

[holy cow cm]

No big deal at all. Money is money. The day of torn bills being off limits here is in a sense gone. She should be happy to have anything. So give her some old USA dollars or a torn USA dollar or two as a tip and have her try to go exchange it for THB. Then she will have a hard time than just using a torn Thai bill that is accepted..

[richard_smith237]

Topic - don’t be like this guy...

 

Op doesn’t like the way another person left a torn note as a tip because he is a regular and feels he has earned the right to pass judgement on not only the amount but how pristine the note or coins are !!! - Quite amusing !!! 

 

Are we really that judgemental of how perfect stranger are acting such that we fault the most innocuous and minor of actions. Its not as if this guy who left the tip got up and started swearing at the staff. He left a tip !!! Note was torn, big deal. 

 

 

As far as tipping itself - this topic has surely been done to death by now... 

(first 3 hits).

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1054054-what-is-the-general-rule-for-tipping/

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1004907-tipping-for-a-soapy/

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/184893-demand-a-tip/page/4/