Thailand sees second day of record-high virus deaths

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, phills2k1 said:

 

People are going to spread it through the household regardless of a lockdown or not. There needs to be prevention of the spread outside of the house as well

 

How do people not comprehend this???

Hmmm... what you are saying is that, if one member of a household tests positive for Covid, they should be removed from the household and housed in a quarantine facility, something like a "field hospital", to prevent spread of the virus to other members of their household. I will notify the Health Ministry immediately of this great idea.

[2 is 1]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

Hmmm... what you are saying is that, if one member of a household tests positive for Covid, they should be removed from the household and housed in a quarantine facility, something like a "field hospital", to prevent spread of the virus to other members of their household. I will notify the Health Ministry immediately of this great idea.

Other countrys put them in home quarantine for 14 days! But if you not find those household's they spread that other place also!

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Hmmm... what you are saying is that, if one member of a household tests positive for Covid, they should be removed from the household and housed in a quarantine facility, something like a "field hospital", to prevent spread of the virus to other members of their household. I will notify the Health Ministry immediately of this great idea.

I think you mistake his point, he was replying to a poster who said its no longer out in the community which it clearly is.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[anchadian]

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There are 143 people with #COVID19 in Greater Bangkok that are waiting for a bed. Forty-one are in a moderate condition and six are in a serious condition #Bangkok #Thailand

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, anchadian said:

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There are 143 people with #COVID19 in Greater Bangkok that are waiting for a bed. Forty-one are in a moderate condition and six are in a serious condition #Bangkok #Thailand

 

Here's the reality of the situation now in Bangkok, terrible for those people to be left like that

[anchadian]

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Vaccinations in Thailand since 28th February 2021: First dose - 1,097,862 people Second dose - 386,703 people Yesterday, 2,632 people received their first dose and 4,855 received their second dose. * The official population of #Thailand is 66,186,727

 

[Danderman123]

12 minutes ago, anchadian said:

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There are 143 people with #COVID19 in Greater Bangkok that are waiting for a bed. Forty-one are in a moderate condition and six are in a serious condition #Bangkok #Thailand

 

This is a serious question: are the Covid beds in Bangkok filled now? IF not, why are these people waiting for a bed?

 

[metisdead]

Some inflammatory/trolling posts and replies to those have been removed.

 

Off topic posts and replies about India also have been removed.  While the Covid infection rate in India is worrisome, this topic is not about India.

[WaveHunter]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Of course curfews work but not in the way you think. They prevent parties and home drinking. That is all they need to do. They also stop illegal bars and other stuff. The rest it has no use what so ever but as we have seen alcohol and covid rules just don't mix. So they try to stop partying with curfews.

Good point ????

 

[trainman34014]

2 hours ago, keith101 said:

Who ever said the virus had already peaked should lose their job as they have obviously no idea of what they are talking about .

Jobs they should never have had in the first place !

[RubbaJohnny]

2 hours ago, WaveHunter said:

Do curfews really make any sense at all?  I mean, Covid does not ominously become more transmissible from 10pm to 4am, so why put a random time stamp on it?

 

In all seriousness, there is no science based data that support the efficacy of curfews.   On the other hand there is data that support the efficacy of short-term lockdowns (i.e.: 1-3 weeks).

 

I would hate for that to become necessary but my point is that curfews really achieve very little if anything at all towards "flattening the curve".  However, what they do accomplish is to erode our trust in government and just generate widespread paranoia.

 

Issuing arbitrary curfews actually discredit the more sensible measures taken.  When health authorities present rules without clear, science-based substantiation, their advice ends up seeming arbitrary and capricious.

Indeed and if same demand for say local 7-11/ Big C Lotus etc in less hours more crowding.

 

On the other hand we all know that evening drinking may make people less careful of social distancing and hygiene.

Post happy hour you may become attraced to "all sorts' when the beer goggles kick in.

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Trend in Bangkok daily new COVID case reports from April 26 to May 2:

 

 

 

 

Nice to see Phuket not listed. 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

We have all types here:

 

Covid Deniers

Anti-vaxxers

The "I had Covid last year and its no problem" types

The "I don't care how many millions die, I want to go to my pub" types

and, last but not least, "This epidemic is going out of control, it's going to be like India here" types.

 

oh, and the guys who debate what angle the line has to be so that it's exponential.

You forgot the "we're all going to die" types,and the "I'm afraid to breath without my mask on" types.

[RichardColeman]

 

2 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

22 deaths in a population of 70 million + 

 

Yes, but also about 20,000 extra deaths for some reason in the past 5 months. Would you take odds on a percentage if them being covid and not declared ?

[anchadian]

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https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1388746942394474498

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Chiang Mai health officials this afternoon are reporting 55 new cases and two more deaths. Seven patients are critically ill. Out of 3,685 cases, 2,118 patients have returned home and seven have died #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

[anchadian]

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/covid-19-infected-thai-embassy-staff-repatriated-from-india-on-special-rtaf-flight/

 

COVID-19 infected Thai embassy staff repatriated from India on special RTAF flight

May 2, 2021

 

Three Thai officials working at the Thai Embassy in New Delhi, India, who are infected with COVID-19, and another, who is considered as to be high risk, were flown into Bangkok on Saturday on a Royal Thai Air Force Airbus 320.

 

[edwinchester]

Thailand's infection and death figures are broadly similar to those in the UK.

The big difference is that in the UK they are conducting hundreds of thousands of tests per day whilst Thailand seems to be only conducting several thousand.

Either Thailand has a huge number of unreported cases or they are incredibly lucky funding all the cases with so few tests.

[metisdead]

 

Some off topic posts have been removed. 

[Sametboy2019]

There are 143 people with #COVID19 in Greater Bangkok that are waiting for a bed. Forty-one are in a moderate condition and six are in a serious condition

 

So the other 95 must be in a mild condition? Do they really need a bed if they are not considered to be in even a moderate condition?

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 minutes ago, Sametboy2019 said:

There are 143 people with #COVID19 in Greater Bangkok that are waiting for a bed. Forty-one are in a moderate condition and six are in a serious condition

 

So the other 95 must be in a mild condition? Do they really need a bed if they are not considered to be in even a moderate condition?

 

 

 

Just for context purposes, the number of COVID positive folks waiting for beds in the past week or so reached a peak of around 1,400 at one point... So the 143 number is quite a bit down... Actually, the MoPH and BMA announced just the other day that they had eliminated the backlog.... but it seems to have crept back again.

 

That's what tends to happen when you have almost 2,000 people every day testing positive for COVID, and a small but significant share of those new cases every day end up being in critical condition... with the critical condition population now reaching almost 1,000 as of today.

 

 

 

 

 

[ukrules]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

This so-called 3rd wave is still going strong. 

Another way of looking at it is - it's just getting started.

[Scouse123]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Of course curfews work but not in the way you think. They prevent parties and home drinking. That is all they need to do. They also stop illegal bars and other stuff. The rest it has no use what so ever but as we have seen alcohol and covid rules just don't mix. So they try to stop partying with curfews.

 

I get your point but there are a few others which nobody can stop because it is ingrained in their culture.

 

1. They will still sit on the floor and eat together in large extended family gatherings on a daily basis.

2. The trucks and pick ups will still be brim full of workers without masks crowded together on their way to the fields and factories.

3. Upcountry they are not as good, and in fact lackadaisical, in hand washing and social distancing and even public conveniences on highways and motorways rarely have usable or full soap dispensers.

The times I have seen guys exiting cubicles from toilets at motorway stations and just the slightest wetting of their hands, shaking them of water, and away they go.

 

I do feel lock downs, stop large gatherings, bar closures and curfews are the way to go because the country does not have enough people vaccinated at present and it's the only way to stop the spiral or at least contain it until enough people are vaccinated.

 

Thailand does not want to be at the stage of running out of oxygen or beds

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Thailand's Health Ministry on Sunday reported 1,940 new coronavirus cases, while deaths hit 21 for a second day, the highest daily number of fatalities since the pandemic began

I thought the smart people said the peak was over?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Steady as she goes...cases and deaths holding steady. Keep practicing recommended Covid safety precautions everyone and we'll lick this third wave soon.

So the new practice of "quarantining at home if proven infected" down in Phuket might not be a good idea.

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

I thought the smart people said the peak was over?

The peak was last week at 2800 cases.

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5 hours ago, meechai said:

 

 

in 2018 Thailand averaged 122 deaths per day due to Influenza and Pneumonia.

 

 

This dog & pony show needs a bite of reality

 

Scare Mongering at its finest has really detracted from all the student protests & moves to seek new government

 

21 deaths....OMG what is that like one third the daily auto deaths ( at the scene only) of course less now that none go anywhere ????

 

 

Well, the stripped down figure for just influenza  ranges from 300 to 7000 deaths per year.

.The overall incidence of influenza cases over 8.5 months between January 1st and September 18th, 2017 was 177.75 per 100 000 population (approximate range: 76.88 to 594.59 per 100 000 population).8 The estimated mortality rate of influenza-related respiratory illnesses in Thai population was 6.1 (95% confidence interval: 0.5-12.4) per 100 000 population or about 3600 deaths (range: 300-7000 deaths) per year.9 

 

 

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[djayz]

Last Friday: third wave has already peaked. Today: second day of record deaths. 

From day one of this virus, I have been confused. So many contradicting reports on what to do/what not to do. How it's spread. Most/least effective measures, etc. etc. Everything is a contradiction and/or a balls up. 

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, djayz said:

Last Friday: third wave has already peaked. Today: second day of record deaths. 

From day one of this virus, I have been confused. So many contradicting reports on what to do/what not to do. How it's spread. Most/least effective measures, etc. etc. Everything is a contradiction and/or a balls up. 

No contradiction between lower numbers of new cases and increased deaths. Deaths lag new infections by up to 21 days. All over the world. We can expect maybe 2 more weeks of rising deaths.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Thailand's infection and death figures are broadly similar to those in the UK.

The big difference is that in the UK they are conducting hundreds of thousands of tests per day whilst Thailand seems to be only conducting several thousand.

Either Thailand has a huge number of unreported cases or they are incredibly lucky funding all the cases with so few tests.

You are ignoring contact tracing. Thailand activity tracks contacts of infected persons and tests them.

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, the stripped down figure for just influenza  ranges from 300 to 7000 deaths per year.

.The overall incidence of influenza cases over 8.5 months between January 1st and September 18th, 2017 was 177.75 per 100 000 population (approximate range: 76.88 to 594.59 per 100 000 population).8 The estimated mortality rate of influenza-related respiratory illnesses in Thai population was 6.1 (95% confidence interval: 0.5-12.4) per 100 000 population or about 3600 deaths (range: 300-7000 deaths) per year.9 

 

 

Moral of the story, take the vaccine if over 60 even if its not as effective as it should be, every little helps.