Thailand reports new daily record of 5,485 new COVID-19 cases, 19 new deaths

[anchadian]

Opinion: Gov knew since October no local vaccines until mid-2021; questions must now be asked

 

The Thai government’s decision to not import vaccines as quickly as possible must be questioned now that it is confirmed that the government knew that locally produced AstraZeneca doses would not be available until the middle of this year.

 

In a press release dated to October 2020, Thailand’s Minister of Public Health Anutin Charnvirakul and the chairman of Siam Bioscience said that the country should not expect vaccines from SBS until the middle of 2021.

 

“…the company is aiming to have the first batch of vaccines available in the middle of next year,” reads the press release.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28057/opinion-gov-knew-since-october-no-local-vaccines-until-mid-2021-questions-must-now-be-asked/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Red bars in the graph below show the numbers of general population COVID cases reported daily during the past week. Orange bars show the numbers of prison cases.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/319913406285236

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158050769872050

 

[Fromas]

10 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

There seems to be a widespread belief among Thais ...

 

I'm not sure if that would be the case and I think that any administration would struggle under the same conditions

 

The "grass always greener" perception?

 

Don't want to get on my soapbox or veer off topic, but there are fully democratically elected administrations that are showing similar Covid response issues we face in Thailand.  

 

 

 

 

 

[club]

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Red bars in the graph below show the numbers of general population COVID cases reported daily during the past week. Orange bars show the numbers of prison cases.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/319913406285236

 

Prison numbers will continue to climb unless they separate or release the ones that test negative

[edwardandtubs]

35 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Of the 5,485 new cases that were found in the past 24 hours:

 

- 1,205 were found via tests at medical facilities

- 2,270 via proactive tests at known clusters

- 1,953 via tests at prisons

- 57 imported cases

- 19 fatalities

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1399237694790586369

 

Anyone got that bar chart that separates hospital walk-ins from proactive cases? I suspect the hospital walk-ins are not increasing as rapidly (or at all) as the total.

 

Of course today's figures are a concern but can probably be explained by the finding of another couple of clusters in workers accommodation.

[Mr Meeseeks]

12 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Opinion: Gov knew since October no local vaccines until mid-2021; questions must now be asked

 

The Thai government’s decision to not import vaccines as quickly as possible must be questioned now that it is confirmed that the government knew that locally produced AstraZeneca doses would not be available until the middle of this year.

 

In a press release dated to October 2020, Thailand’s Minister of Public Health Anutin Charnvirakul and the chairman of Siam Bioscience said that the country should not expect vaccines from SBS until the middle of 2021.

 

“…the company is aiming to have the first batch of vaccines available in the middle of next year,” reads the press release.

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/28057/opinion-gov-knew-since-october-no-local-vaccines-until-mid-2021-questions-must-now-be-asked/

Money for the 'good people' and the narrative must be maintained above all else.

 

Fortunately it appears as if the narrative is now falling apart and more and more Thais are seeing through the lies and getting more vocal and active about it.

[edwardandtubs]

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Red bars in the graph below show the numbers of general population COVID cases reported daily during the past week. Orange bars show the numbers of prison cases.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/thaimoph/posts/319913406285236

 

The really interesting one as I just posted will be the one that separates hospital tests from proactive tests.

[anchadian]

Tight COVID-19 safety measures at parliament as debate on budget bill starts

 

With the ongoing COVID-19 surge in Bangkok and its suburbs, unusually tight safety measures have been imposed at the Thai Parliament, as the three-day House debate on the government’s 3.1 trillion baht budget Bill for the 2022 fiscal year begins today (Monday).

 

Everyone, including cabinet ministers, MPs, reporters and officials, are being required to complete entry forms, either in advance through an app or at the entrance to parliament, causing a bottleneck at the entry points. Each MP is allowed to be accompanied by just one aide.

 

At the order of Mrs. Pornpit Petcharoen, secretary-general of the House of Representatives, all reporters and photographers are barred from using the mezzanine floor, where they usually gather to monitor the parliamentary proceedings, reportedly to ease congestion and to prevent droplets from their conversations falling onto the MPs below.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/tight-covid-19-safety-measures-at-parliament-as-debate-on-budget-bill-starts/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And the updated version of the daily new COVID cases trends chart showing self referred cases in blue, outreach testing cases in yellow and prison cases in gray.

 

Monday's tally is the second highest overall daily COVID cases tally since the start of the pandemic, and the highest general population cases total (the yellow and blue sections combined).

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/336038301347834/?type=3

 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[DavisH]

28 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I'm afraid the "slowly" term is being "slowly" replaced with a "rapid" increase. The chart below is community cases only and only up until 28th May. In a few days when updated it will show a much higher week ending figure

 

These are cumulative cases, so of course they will increase (it can only flatline when there are no more cases). Plot the daly walk-in cases for the previous month. Post that one. This is the only graph that will indicate uncontrolled community spread. Most cases are still being linked to known or emerging clusters. 

[RafPinto]

Why they don't get over it.

Put every single prisoner on the list in 1 day and done and dusted.

Not a single one can be immune as they are all living in very unhuman, close spaces.

How on earth someone could escape?

Test every single prison employee, their families and neigbours.

Check all visitors who came in over the last month and get all of them tested.

 

 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

As you know, I was referring to community cases, not those in prisons.

 

Until today, community cases have been in a stable range for a month.

Community cases. Fri: 2465 Sat: 2101: Sun: 2626. Fri to Sat down 364 or 15%. Sat to Sun up 525 or 20%. April 30 there were 1,583. This means an increase of around 60% between April 30 and yesterday with numbers ranging from just below 1583 to the mid-high 2ks. Stable for the month I think would be around + or - 10% of the 1,583 positives reported one month ago.

Edited May 31, 2021 by dinsdale

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Monday's new COVID cases graphic by province, showing five provinces led by Bangkok with more than 100 new cases, and five more provinces with 51 to 100 cases. The top five were Bangkok (1,356), Phetchaburi (555), Samut Prakan (358), Saraburi (327) and Pathum Thani (211).

 

Monday's results show an expansion of the larger case counts among the top provinces than has been the case recently. Normally, a typical day would see Bangkok with the largest total and most of the next highest provinces under 200 new cases. But in Monday's results, Bangkok was joined by three other provinces with tallies exceeding 300 new cases apiece.

 

At the other end of spectrum, 57 of Thailand's 77 provinces reported 10 or fewer cases for the day -- 28 reporting between one and 10 cases, and 29 reporting no new cases.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/336038711347793/?type=3

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, DavisH said:

These are cumulative cases, so of course they will increase (it can only flatline when there are no more cases). Plot the daly walk-in cases for the previous month. Post that one. This is the only graph that will indicate uncontrolled community spread. Most cases are still being linked to known or emerging clusters. 

You obviously do not understand charts. These are weekly cumulative cases of that week only and go up or down based on that weeks infection rate. Each week contains the number of community cases found daily and give a much clearer picture of a trend rather than the macro daily view. Which would in fact give the exact same trend only not as visual.

 

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[edwardandtubs]

22 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And the updated version of the daily new COVID cases trends chart showing self referred cases in blue, outreach testing cases in yellow and prison cases in gray.

 

Monday's tally is the second highest overall daily COVID cases tally since the start of the pandemic, and the highest general population cases total (the yellow and blue sections combined).

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/336038301347834/?type=3

 

 

 

It's good news that the self referral cases are not increasing at all. It reminds me a bit of the situation in Singapore a while ago where the workers in dormitories were reporting high case numbers but cases in the general population remained low.

Edited May 31, 2021 by edwardandtubs

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

It's good news that the self referral cases are not increasing at all. It reminds me a bit of the situation in Singapore a while ago where the workers in dormitories were reporting high case numbers but cases in the general population remained low.

Do you think this may have anything to do with it.

 

The government  have been actively encouraging people to stay at home even if they suspect they have covid with no symptoms and only head to a local community out reach case finding location if they do develop symptoms.

 

This coupled with the hospitals giving limited tests per day, many refusing to test at all and people just not wanting to go to hospital all lessens the pressure on testing at medical facilities.

Edited May 31, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[retsdon]

2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

I’ve added two red lines to the rolling 7 day average for Covid cases. Please excuse my amateurish effort.

 

I believe any sharp upward movement out of the two red lines followed by a sharp downward movement back within them, represents a spike. Any similar movement downward out of the lines and then back within them, represents a dip. Movements within the red lines represents a a trend.

 

because the two red lines rise when going from left to right, cases in Thailand are in an upward trend.

 

is there an explanation I have missed?

 

 

If it were a stock you'd be buying right about now just as it bounces off the bottom of the upward channel ????

[Swimfan]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Factories, construction camps and areas, Talad Markets, and wherever any large groups may gather.  Add in the fact that people then travel and continue the covid spread into homes and communities as has been happening.  I wonder what the true number is of folks not seeking medical care.  It is enough of a concern here in Bangkok that it has already been discussed and brought forth at the government level.  I will be waiting for the BMA to put squads together to go neighborhood to neighborhood to check on people.

Thanks for saving me the time and effort ????

If they keep on focusing all of their energy and testing resources on just these clusters, a wave is going to come up behind them and knock them down when they are looking the wrong way.

All of the division of numbers i.e. Factories, construction and prisons etc. is just an attempt at smoke and mirrors. Every single case is a case of community transmission regardless of where it happens.  

Edited May 31, 2021 by Swimfan

[edwardandtubs]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Do you think this may have anything to do with it.

 

The government  have been actively encouraging people to stay at home even if they suspect they have covid with no symptoms and only head to a local community out reach case finding location if they do develop symptoms.

 

This coupled with the hospitals giving limited tests per day, many refusing to test at all and people just not wanting to go to hospital all lessens the pressure on testing at medical facilities.

Do you think people really pay much heed to what the government is "actively encouraging" them to do when deciding whether or not to get tested for covid? In any case, there hasn't been any recent change in policy.

 

There were reports several weeks ago of some hospitals turning away people wanting a test but I haven't read of any increase in that problem. Have you?

 

It's easy to engage in idle speculation but fairly pointless because you can speculate one way or the other. It's much more worthwhile to focus on the statistics that we actually have in front of us.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

Do you think people really pay much heed to what the government is "actively encouraging" them to do when deciding whether or not to get tested for covid? In any case, there hasn't been any recent change in policy.

 

There were reports several weeks ago of some hospitals turning away people wanting a test but I haven't read of any increase in that problem. Have you?

 

It's easy to engage in idle speculation but fairly pointless because you can speculate one way or the other. It's much more worthwhile to focus on the statistics that we actually have in front of us.

Its not idle speculation but facts:

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Ministry of Public Health breakdown on Monday of new COVID cases by area, cumulative totals since April 1, and new deaths reported on Monday:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1684628881723324&id=470988516420706

 

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

It's good news that the self referral cases are not increasing at all. It reminds me a bit of the situation in Singapore a while ago where the workers in dormitories were reporting high case numbers but cases in the general population remained low.

What strain of covid was it in Singapore?

[edwardandtubs]

7 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its not idle speculation but facts:

 

 

I meant idle speculation that that would have had any impact at all on the number of people seeking tests. Like I said, do you really think people worrying about covid pay any attention to these government infographics?

 

In any case, that policy has remained unchanged for several weeks now as far as I'm aware so it doesn't explain at all why self-referral hospital cases are flat/decreasing.

Edited May 31, 2021 by edwardandtubs

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Daily province by province breakdown of new COVID cases for Monday, and the prior day's chart below for comparison. If a province is not listed, that means it didn't have any new reported cases for the day.

 

Monday, May 31:

 

 

Sunday, May 30:

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158050811477050

 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[edwardandtubs]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What strain of covid was it in Singapore?

Why don't you Google that and then come back and explain why you think it invalidates my point?

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, edwardandtubs said:

Why don't you Google that and then come back and explain why you think it invalidates my point?

 

 

Because it makes a very big difference as we see in Thailand with the UK strain

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Todays "spike" is and increase from "known clusters" is what it says, there is no mention of new hotspots stop changing what you've quoted to suit your conformation bias.

Four major Hotspots were identified today. 

[Danderman123]

27 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

Thanks for saving me the time and effort ????

If they keep on focusing all of their energy and testing resources on just these clusters, a wave is going to come up behind them and knock them down when they are looking the wrong way.

All of the division of numbers i.e. Factories, construction and prisons etc. is just an attempt at smoke and mirrors. Every single case is a case of community transmission regardless of where it happens.  

That's why they watch hospital walk-ins closely, so they can use contact tracing to look for Hotspots. 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, edwardandtubs said:

I meant idle speculation that that would have had any impact at all on the number of people seeking tests. Like I said, do you really think people worrying about covid pay any attention to these government infographics?

 

In any case, that policy has remained unchanged for several weeks now as far as I'm aware so it doesn't explain at all why self-referral hospital cases are flat/decreasing.

Those reports were not idle speculation, again they were facts and there has been nothing to indicate that the situation has changed in anyway. It was also not just an info graphic the text in Thai was plastered on the Gov facebook pages.