Should I call

[georgegeorgia]

For the last few days I have been receiving missed calls from a Thailand number ( I'm curren Australia) so I called it....

 

A farang guy answered and started telling me about EN ...a girl I use to know in Thailand back in 2016 when we split up.

He started to tell me she is sick wiwith cancer and dying 

 

Now I knew she had cancer a few years ago because I think it was 2019 she messaged me on this Facebook with graphic pics of her surgery to her throat....but I decided to tell her outright I have moved on and no longer interested

To go back ...we met in about 2010 on my trips and in 2016 I was lonely after mum died and was living by myself so I decided I wanted her in Australia.

 

I paid a great visa guy in Pattaya who practically jumped thru hoops to get her a visa....that was December 2016 she was due to arrive in Australia for my Xmas...she blocked me instead Of my investigation led to her going with a Israeli guy who owned a restaurant in Phuket 

 

I went back to Thailand several times but she blocked me ..however I recall back in 2018 I got thru to her on Facebook messenger and mentioned about her not coming to Australia and she sent back this emoji which I was saddened by ....????????????????..not sure what she meant by that ..but she just kept sending that ...before she blocked me again.

 

Fast forward to 2019 I think November? She sent me graphic pics of her throat surgery..I decided to tell her bluntly I'm not interested...it hurt me ..but I had to to...it had been too long plus I couldn't forgive her not turning up for Xmas 2016 when I paid her airfare ...visa etc 

 

Now fast forward to Last night I call this missed 66 code number the farang says EN is dying and wants to speak to me ...I said ok .but then he said here is another number do I have a pen etc 

 

Now I haven't called...but it's playing on my mind 

I have no feelings for her ..but now it's been on my mind all last night .

[soi3eddie]

You said you "used to know her then split up" so I'm guessing it was more than platonic. I would call, listen to her, be sympathetic but nothing more. Let her talk. She had her opportunities. Sad situation. Not your issue anymore.

 

[AlexRich]

She didn’t treat you particularly well. If the boot was on the other foot would she call you? I think we all know the answer to that question. Move on, and don’t look back.

[soi3eddie]

7 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

She didn’t treat you particularly well. If the boot was on the other foot would she call you? I think we all know the answer to that question. Move on, and don’t look back.

 

She's dying. Give her some sympathy. Whether or not she would do same is irrelevent. IMO. Have some compassion. 

 

[AlexRich]

9 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

 

She's dying. Give her some sympathy. Whether or not she would do same is irrelevent. IMO. Have some compassion. 

 

Up to you. But don’t ask a question on a forum and expect to like every answer. What if she asks for money? 

[soi3eddie]

12 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

Up to you. But don’t ask a question on a forum and expect to like every answer. What if she asks for money? 

Just say no. Simple. 

[soi3eddie]

Just now, soi3eddie said:

Just say no. Simple. BTW: I did not ask any question.

 

 

[BenDeCosta]

It's sad that she is dying, and even sadder that she's contacting her exes (who she has previously rejected and blocked) and trying to gouge them before she kicks the bucket. She treated you with contempt, I would have nothing to do with her at all.

Edited June 7, 2021 by BenDeCosta

[sipi]

I wouldn't, but then again I've made lots of regrettable decisions.

[starky]

Despite some of the usual responses. Maybe, is it at all possible, that she wants to speak to you before she dies to apologise to you? That there is nothing nefarious, she doesn't want to "gouge" you and perhaps she wants to say goodbye?

   Many people have regrets when death is imminent. Rightly or wrongly they look for closure before they die. The better person would not deny someone that opportunity. Not excusing whatever her actions where towards you but as a man you should give her the opportunity of a conversation surely? 

 Without going the full deep dive a lot of these girls have pretty ordinary lives and even you don't know why she made the decision she ultimately made in choosing Phuket over Australia. Again plenty here will want to call her whatever. Heard it all a million times but bar girls deserve respect like everybody else, even the ones who make poor decisions.

   Obviously up to you but how much time out of your life will be lost taking a phone call from a terminally ill woman?

  If it goes the other way as the cynical on here have pointed out all you need to do is terminate the conversation. Small pun intended.

Edited June 8, 2021 by starky

[scubascuba3]

Talk her and see what she has to say, it may give her peace

[JayClay]

If you do talk to her then you'll definitely know why she wanted to speak to you.

 

If you don't talk to her you'll never know what she wanted.

 

And never is a long time to be left wondering about something...

[4MyEgo]

7 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

A farang guy answered and started telling me about EN ...a girl I use to know in Thailand back in 2016 when we split up.

He started to tell me she is sick wiwith cancer and dying

 

Seriously, you should move on, especially after she fleeced you, I would bet my left one that the visa guy cancelled the tickets on her behalf/request, and gave her the money and took a little commission, i.e. if he booked them with your money. I saw a similar scenario a while back, however guy was married, nothing to do with tickets, but upping the price of an item and her putting the extra in the pocket, did I mention, she is married to the farang, they are cunning creatures, you MUST have your wits about you. 

 

7 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Now I knew she had cancer a few years ago because I think it was 2019 she messaged me on this Facebook with graphic pics of her surgery to her throat....but I decided to tell her outright I have moved on and no longer interested

 

How do you know that, because she told you, perhaps it was an operation for something else like a Thyroid or as I said something else, non life threatening and will recover, maybe a little richer thanks to all her farang contacts.

 

Most guys are suckes and aren't man enough to know when to say NO, its ok to say no, not suggesting you are a sucker, but unless I was there to ask the Dr questions, or got a letter from the Dr of her condition, wouldn't be interested, meaning, only if I was with her then and there, a girlfriend of some years was good to me, but it didn't work out and we parted on good terms, would I assist her if she asked for money, that said, sorry to be cruel, time to wake, and the only way your going to is by baiting her, i.e. make the call, play the sympathy card with her and LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN, I will bet my left one on it, she will say, at the appropriate time when she reals you in, i.e. after saying I just wanted to apologise that I let you down before, it was very difficult for me, and so on and so forth, and then........here it comes, she will say something on the lines of "the Dr's say their is an experimental drug, or a drug that can help me or make me better, pauses, then,  but I have no money, pause, she might not directly ask you for it after a few pauses of silence, waiting for your response, if you don't respond then she will ask you for the money, "financial help", are you a good listener, or a sucker ?

 

She is not your responsibility, why on earth would she be asking you for milk, because she milked the cow once before, sorry to be brutal, but it's the truth, learn from your past mistakes, with this girl and others and the ones in the future, your not a sucker anymore, time to grow from experiences, make the call and see if I am right, at least that way you will know, who knows after the call you might say, I owe you a beer next time your in Oz ????

 

So who is the farang guy, is he in on it, is he her latest boyfriend or another sucker carrying on her requests, thinking he is doing her a favour, can you call my old time friend George in Oz and let him know I am dying, he probably fell for it, and he makes the call, paying for it, and now you are going to pay for the call to her, why, because either she can't afford to make the call, which I doubt, but if you call, she will think, he still has milk for me, lots of scammers here and they don't give a rats, she is coming from a different angle, sounds better than the old beaten to death, mumma and pappa buffalo sick or die and have no money, need buffalo to plow the land to grow rice.

 

I wonder how many farangs from the past she has had this guy call, regardless mate, she never gave a rats about you, scammed you once before over the visa, also tickets no doubt, who paid for those, did you book them direct or was the money sent to her, or did you get the agent to book them, you have to put all of the pieces in front of you together. Who the F is she to you, did she ever give a rats about you, NO, she left you high and dry, accept the fact, now could be a good time for you to stick it back to her, what does that mean, well if your a good LISTENER, during the call, you should be able to pick up on key things, and if you feel she is full of S-hit, then say ok I will send you money, how much, keep it going along until you satisfied and then let the line drop, e.g. hang up and turn the phone off, and the next time you turn it on, no doubt you will have a volley of txt's with her account details, she thinking your battery died, then delete here number.

 

Be interested to know if I got one on the board or not.

 

Best of luck, and if I am wrong, you can wish her the best, and tell her no have money if she asks for it and move on, life's full of this, if you knew her and she was good to you, didn't scam you, then I would say help, but this girls use by date could be over either way, but doubt it.

 

Last but not least, you can ask, what hospital treated her, and how long ago, and if she still goes there for treatment, she if she is hesitant or gets all stroppy when asking questions, and if you have enough information, you could ask the hospital if she was there with the corresponding dates and if they ask why do you want to know, well you can say she told me she is sick and needs money, but I don't want to send her money unless I know it's true, if they agree to tell you what she had good, but don't tell them what she told you, if asked, just play stupid, she didn't say, she just said she velly sick and need money. It could work and if it does, you will find out if she is telling the truth or lying, but I know one thing, it's not your problem, unless you want to make it yours.

Edited June 8, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[CharlieH]

Always better to regret the things you did, than what you didnt do !

Its clearly eating at you, whats in a phonecall ? Find out, then say GOODBYE case closed.

[AlexRich]

And, only fair … let us all know the outcome, whatever that happens to be?
 

I suspect a money request is in the offing, but happy to be proved wrong.

[Grecian]

If she needed a blood transfusion to stay alive would you give it? 

if you needed a blood transfusion and the only person available is the person you had most wronged in this life would you hope they would give it?

 

if you can treat her with compassion as a flawed human being then I would say call.

if you can only see her as the child in the sandbox (most humans still are) who threw sand in your face then dont.

[starky]

4 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Seriously, you should move on, especially after she fleeced you, I would bet my left one that the visa guy cancelled the tickets on her behalf/request, and gave her the money and took a little commission, i.e. if he booked them with your money. I saw a similar scenario a while back, however guy was married, nothing to do with tickets, but upping the price of an item and her putting the extra in the pocket, did I mention, she is married to the farang, they are cunning creatures, you MUST have your wits about you. 

 

 

How do you know that, because she told you, perhaps it was an operation for something else like a Thyroid or as I said something else, non life threatening and will recover, maybe a little richer thanks to all her farang contacts.

 

Most guys are suckes and aren't man enough to know when to say NO, its ok to say no, not suggesting you are a sucker, but unless I was there to ask the Dr questions, or got a letter from the Dr of her condition, wouldn't be interested, meaning, only if I was with her then and there, a girlfriend of some years was good to me, but it didn't work out and we parted on good terms, would I assist her if she asked for money, that said, sorry to be cruel, time to wake, and the only way your going to is by baiting her, i.e. make the call, play the sympathy card with her and LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN, I will bet my left one on it, she will say, at the appropriate time when she reals you in, i.e. after saying I just wanted to apologise that I let you down before, it was very difficult for me, and so on and so forth, and then........here it comes, she will say something on the lines of "the Dr's say their is an experimental drug, or a drug that can help me or make me better, pauses, then,  but I have no money, pause, she might not directly ask you for it after a few pauses of silence, waiting for your response, if you don't respond then she will ask you for the money, "financial help", are you a good listener, or a sucker ?

 

She is not your responsibility, why on earth would she be asking you for milk, because she milked the cow once before, sorry to be brutal, but it's the truth, learn from your past mistakes, with this girl and others and the ones in the future, your not a sucker anymore, time to grow from experiences, make the call and see if I am right, at least that way you will know, who knows after the call you might say, I owe you a beer next time your in Oz ????

 

So who is the farang guy, is he in on it, is he her latest boyfriend or another sucker carrying on her requests, thinking he is doing her a favour, can you call my old time friend George in Oz and let him know I am dying, he probably fell for it, and he makes the call, paying for it, and now you are going to pay for the call to her, why, because either she can't afford to make the call, which I doubt, but if you call, she will think, he still has milk for me, lots of scammers here and they don't give a rats, she is coming from a different angle, sounds better than the old beaten to death, mumma and pappa buffalo sick or die and have no money, need buffalo to plow the land to grow rice.

 

I wonder how many farangs from the past she has had this guy call, regardless mate, she never gave a rats about you, scammed you once before over the visa, also tickets no doubt, who paid for those, did you book them direct or was the money sent to her, or did you get the agent to book them, you have to put all of the pieces in front of you together. Who the F is she to you, did she ever give a rats about you, NO, she left you high and dry, accept the fact, now could be a good time for you to stick it back to her, what does that mean, well if your a good LISTENER, during the call, you should be able to pick up on key things, and if you feel she is full of S-hit, then say ok I will send you money, how much, keep it going along until you satisfied and then let the line drop, e.g. hang up and turn the phone off, and the next time you turn it on, no doubt you will have a volley of txt's with her account details, she thinking your battery died, then delete here number.

 

Be interested to know if I got one on the board or not.

 

Best of luck, and if I am wrong, you can wish her the best, and tell her no have money if she asks for it and move on, life's full of this, if you knew her and she was good to you, didn't scam you, then I would say help, but this girls use by date could be over either way, but doubt it.

 

Last but not least, you can ask, what hospital treated her, and how long ago, and if she still goes there for treatment, she if she is hesitant or gets all stroppy when asking questions, and if you have enough information, you could ask the hospital if she was there with the corresponding dates and if they ask why do you want to know, well you can say she told me she is sick and needs money, but I don't want to send her money unless I know it's true, if they agree to tell you what she had good, but don't tell them what she told you, if asked, just play stupid, she didn't say, she just said she velly sick and need money. It could work and if it does, you will find out if she is telling the truth or lying, but I know one thing, it's not your problem, unless you want to make it yours.

So burnt by a Thai girl I'm guessing? 

Holy <deleted>.

[4MyEgo]

51 minutes ago, starky said:

So burnt by a Thai girl I'm guessing? 

Holy <deleted>.

 

Lol, never been burnt by a girl of any kind, seen a lot of mates get burnt by them though, even with the x wife, non Thai, I still came out much better off than most I knew.

 

As they say with snakes, not comparing women to them, otherwise I would get banned on TVF, when it comes to snakes, one has to know how to handle the snake, otherwise one could get bitten ????

 

 

Edited June 8, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[4MyEgo]

7 hours ago, starky said:

Heard it all a million times but bar girls deserve respect like everybody else, even the ones who make poor decisions.

 

Regardless of careers, chosen or otherwise, respect is something that is earned, poor decisions, I think you mean theft, don't come into the equation, like I said, respect is earned, through trust. 

 

The above said, I happily married a bargirl 15 years ago, like I said, respect is earned, poor decisions, don't come into the equation and my wife has my respect because she has earned it.

[canthai55]

She may be looking to say Sorry about past behavior.

She might ...

Only way to find out is to call.

I would.

[starky]

45 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 

Regardless of careers, chosen or otherwise, respect is something that is earned, poor decisions, I think you mean theft, don't come into the equation, like I said, respect is earned, through trust. 

 

The above said, I happily married a bargirl 15 years ago, like I said, respect is earned, poor decisions, don't come into the equation and my wife has my respect because she has earned it.

Where did it say she stole anything?  All  read was a bargirl that had multiple falangs and chose one and not another wouldn't be the first girl who did that. Hardly makes her a thief.

  Unlike apparently all the virtuous TVF readers who would have never done the wrong thing by a bar girl, or promised them the world, or <deleted> them over, or beat them up,  or treated then like <deleted>, and have never lied to them or was seeing multiple bar girls all at the same time. Please give me a break.  In this story we have heard exactly one side of it. 

  The part I took away from it is a guy that stayed up all night after hearing about a girl he used to have a connection with. Everybody else's assumptions about her don't enter into it. It's a phone call f   f  s

Edited June 8, 2021 by starky

[OneMoreFarang]

Good that I arrived late to this thread.

I saw the first post happened 12 hours ago.

And the last post from the OP was 12 hours ago. Yeah, there is only one post.

<censored> you!, case closed.

[starky]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Good that I arrived late to this thread.

I saw the first post happened 12 hours ago.

And the last post from the OP was 12 hours ago. Yeah, there is only one post.

<censored> you!, case closed.

Maybe he's still thinking...lol. be rude not to give an update.

[timendres]

Guy gives you a different phone number to call? Smells to high heaven.

[Straight8]

Didn't turn up Visa and airfare paid, blocked you several times... as others have said, move on & don't look back.

 

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice.... well you know how it goes.

[Ecky]

For peace of mind message the farang to give En a phone so she can call you. Job done.

[xtrnuno41]

Why another guy has to call you? She knows your number, facebook and so on.

Why she doesnt call you? I wouldnt trust this and forget about it, could be as well a scam.

A hack on your phone? It doesnt make sense to me.

[scorecard]

12 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Up to you. But don’t ask a question on a forum and expect to like every answer. What if she asks for money? 

"What if she asks for money?" I would be shocked if she didn't ask for money, why else would she now be wanting to contact you?

[chalawaan]

Nobody crosses me and gets my sympathy on their deathbed.  Also in this particular case, why could the farang caller not pass on the context? Is that so hard?

My first reaction is its an elaborate scam, my second is its an elaborate scam, and my third is: "Tough <deleted> baby, you lived your life as grifter, you can die the <deleted> alone."

[richard_smith237]

She’s clearly given the ‘other guy’ the Ops number... So, why doesn’t she just call the Op herself ????

 

Calls are free on WhatsApp and Line Messenger etc..... 

 

So, with all the talk of compassion or walk away etc... really what on earth is stopping this lady from making the call ??? 

If she is already too ill to make a call, she is too ill to take a call. 

 

I can’t think of a reason why she can’t call the Op herself... If she was really that bothered that is.

 

As such, the Op and the other guy involved are making a bigger deal of this than it really is... someone is thinking too mut !!!!