1 minute ago, ChipButty said:

I guess it's sink for a lot people then?

Yep virtually no tourism and establishments fully open with expenses to pay-out.

Prayut will not be bailing out the entire resorts areas.

Many will be going under.

5 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Whats absurd  is the  people who say they want a job but when offered it dont accept, in their predicament Id  take  any work.

Here on Samui we usually have problems hiring staff. They all want to work in hotels. (We manage private villas.)

This month, no problems hiring three new English speaking, experienced staff. All ex-hotel workers.

The killer for me will be when the hotels start to reopen. They will be desperate for staff and I will loose all of these people.

2 hours ago, Kwaibill said:

My Thai wife finally got an inoculation appointment... August 5th. Mind you, that is a date, no shot yet.

How do they expect to "open the kingdom" with only about 6% vaccination?

Tunnel vision.

Well when are the civvy salim going to turn on the khaki salim?

 

Because you have those dolts to thank for everyone missing out on the early bird recovery gravy train.

 

I guess even rampant corruption has its limits if the cash cows go tits up and the golden geese fly elsewhere, if they fly at all...

I always think that the predicament is similar to the salesman selling the first fax machine.

 

Until there are a number of other people with a fax machine, what use is it?

 

The tourists won't come until there are some local businesses open and the local businesses won't open until the tourists come.  Catch 22.

 

Normality is a few years away and the days of having Krabi filled with Scandinavian tourists is even longer.

The country is so reliant on foreign visitors its a shame they didnt treat us better when we were here.

Now they need us back and we're not coming.....live with it you greedy,  thieving sods.

 

63 percent of hotels are making 10 percent of pre covid business .

what is the other 37 percent making ? Nothing or less than nothing .

1 hour ago, clivebaxter said:

Yet if you look on Agoda etc they will still claim just one room remaining, hurry up, 4 people just booked, and other claims ????

Alot of hotels that are closed, are showing as fully booked. Alot that are closed, are pretending to be renovating. Industrial subterfuge. 

 

I think this association reporting 6% occuoancy, is as close to the truth as we are going to get here. 

 

Anything this administration does or says now, is suspect. They cannot be trusted one iota, on any level. Their motives are dark and questionable. 

Connected hotels will be labelled super-special ASQ or SHA Plus and be deemed "essential." 
All others will be flushed down the bowl.

Thailand will encourage well-heeled international and domestic tourist to frequent expensive and high price accommodation and business while urging low-class commoners to remain at home and work. This year the commoners will be told it's "to decrease the spread of covid."  In the next couple of years commoners will be told to stay home "to save the planet from CO2 and man-made climate change."
Private jets, first class and business class welcome.  Everyone else stay home.

For most hotels? <cue sound of toilet flushing>

27 minutes ago, Nsp64 said:

The country is so reliant on foreign visitors its a shame they didnt treat us better when we were here.

Now they need us back and we're not coming.....live with it you greedy,  thieving sods.

 

I've lived here almost a decade and a half and dump about 1 million baht into the economy each year and I'm still treated like scum.

46 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Here on Samui we usually have problems hiring staff. They all want to work in hotels. (We manage private villas.)

This month, no problems hiring three new English speaking, experienced staff. All ex-hotel workers.

The killer for me will be when the hotels start to reopen. They will be desperate for staff and I will loose all of these people.

Compensate they adequately and they'll reward you with loyalty.  What do you expect?

1 minute ago, connda said:

I've lived here almost a decade and a half and dump about 1 million baht into the economy each year and I'm still treated like scum.

Now the shoe is on the other foot.

Walk away from taxis with no meters, ask for a discount on everything.

Dont offer them any help or support. Be selfish, its your money. See how they like it now.

If only these statistics were true of an end to the covid crisis and everyone could start all over again with a clean slate and a renewed energy to get going again and build their businesses, slowly but surely...

 

But it isn't the end, it might not even be the middle. Those that should know what they are doing, don't, and those who want to make plans cannot because of it!

 

Looks like wishing and hoping is all we have!

4 minutes ago, connda said:

Compensate they adequately and they'll reward you with loyalty.  What do you expect?

They'll be gone when the hotels are open again. Pay mimimum and expect maximum effort. They wont thank you for any help you give them.

You're in the driving seat now, time to stop being trodden on by ungrateful, entitled locals.

8 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I dont know what to think Im hoping for the best but fear the worst even just on here TVF seems a lot of members have cancelled their trips, I personally know of a lot of people who have cancelled including Thai's

Your right.  I'm not going on a vacation and be forced to mask up and toe the line of paranoid restrictions and expensive regulations to tour in economically destroyed 'tourist' spots that offer nothing but the chance of getting tossed into a covid field hospital by force and pretty much be guaranteed of getting sick - shot or not shot.

Mrs Connda and I are sticking close to home for however long it take for the insanity to blow over.  If it doesn't?  I don't need to tour.  I live in a little slice of rural Northern paradise.  Yeah its nice to occasionally go to the beach - but I've been. I've toured a large chuck of the world.  Missed South America but hit pretty much everywhere else.
Time to turn to home endeavors and take care of the family.
The rest of the world can run off the end of the tracks, go absolutely paranoid-insane, and I'm fine with it. 
Don't include me.  The Mrs and I are happy right here, right now, right at home.

3 minutes ago, Nsp64 said:

They'll be gone when the hotels are open again. Pay mimimum and expect maximum effort. They wont thank you for any help you give them.

You're in the driving seat now, time to stop being trodden on by ungrateful, entitled locals.

Not with that attitude.  Yep, you'll get exactly what you believe your workers to be.  "Ungrateful, entitled locals!!!"  Yeah, they'll pick up on your vibes and become just that.
There are some exception Thai employees out there.  You need to be selective on the front-end.  Then you get what you pay for.

17 minutes ago, connda said:

I've lived here almost a decade and a half and dump about 1 million baht into the economy each year and I'm still treated like scum

Well I only qualify for 10yr however I've never been treated poorly here or in Vietnam. Travel throughout Thailand extensively.

Very strange you get treated like scum.

 

5 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

These are some very low figures... Imagine the level of debts most hotels must have accumulated by now... Even when things reopen, it will be a very long road of recovery.

So true!  We just stayed at a hotel at the Golden Triangle and we were one of probably 3 or 4 guests. No TV service and limited breakfast (it was enough but there weren't any choices - usually they do a buffet). We felt so sorry for them - they're obviously operating on a skeleton staff.

perhaps they should start allowing alcohol in restaurants again and people would be able to enjoy a domestic holiday

 

it's money down the drain booking anywhere until this restriction is lifted

9 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

It's a sad sad situation and it's getting mote and more absurd. 

And sorry really does seem to be the hardest word for these people!

Some things that Prayuth and Anutin could and should be saying to those who invested heavily in the tourism industry here, or to the poor folks dependent on tourism for a living. If they cared one iota. 

 

I overlooked your happiness in an attempt to make myself happy, only to realize that my happiness lies in yours. I am sorry, please forgive me. 

 

How do I say the words, ‘I’m sorry’ when I know that words are not enough? And how can I ask you to forgive me when I know I can’t forgive myself?

 

With a bruised heart and a deflated ego, with sad soul and a head hung low. I apologize to you unconditionally.

 

I feel ashamed for what I had done. I don’t have any excuses. I did what I did. I take full responsibility for myself and my actions. I wouldn’t pawn this off on anybody. I’m sorry it happened. And I

hurt people.

 

Mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them.

 

I’m not very good at saying sorry, but I apologize for causing so much pain and loss. I could have done alot better. 

 

I want to say to each of you, simply, and directly, I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in. 

 

I believe that when you’re wrong, own it and apologize, and so I do and put it on the equivalent of my front page. 

 

And finally: I am sorry my existence is not very noble or sublime. 

Agoda don't seem to have gotten the memo, prices still not inducive enough to get me to travel.

26 minutes ago, Mamapotat said:

So true!  We just stayed at a hotel at the Golden Triangle and we were one of probably 3 or 4 guests. No TV service and limited breakfast (it was enough but there weren't any choices - usually they do a buffet). We felt so sorry for them - they're obviously operating on a skeleton staff.

Very sad to hear, but it must reflect the general situation throughout the country. To better days...

Smart parties in power, realize that by financially helping those devastated by catastrophe - they not only preserve the economy; they  increase their own popularity.

Surely, the Financial "Big Boys" realize that an unhappy general pubic is very bad for business?

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Well I only qualify for 10yr however I've never been treated poorly here or in Vietnam. Travel throughout Thailand extensively.

Very strange you get treated like scum.

 

You have,  you just haven't noticed it beyond that false smile. 

And now the accurate headline... 

 

"Thai Overreaction and Unwarranted Panic to Covid-19 Devastates Hotel Industry...and the Entire Kingdom for Years to Come" 

1 hour ago, cyril sneer said:

perhaps they should start allowing alcohol in restaurants again and people would be able to enjoy a domestic holiday

 

it's money down the drain booking anywhere until this restriction is lifted

I agree, but that said...have been in BKK, Udon Thani, Pattaya/Jomtien, BKK and back to Udon in the past month and had no trouble enjoying beer and wine with meals out. Usually all one has to do is ask.

????????

SHHHHH! Big Nanny is watching and listening.

????????????

2 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Here on Samui we usually have problems hiring staff. They all want to work in hotels. (We manage private villas.)

This month, no problems hiring three new English speaking, experienced staff. All ex-hotel workers.

The killer for me will be when the hotels start to reopen. They will be desperate for staff and I will loose all of these people.

Well  if  you have two spare let me know prefer man and wife or two women live on site  free  accommodation electric water motorbike etc etc 18k salary for both rising to 20k IF they are any good  after a year

Ah, the wealthy hotel owners association complaining and wining again. Welcome to our world, except we don't complain, we get on with it and without any "assistance" because we know the cavalry will not be coming.

10 hours ago, EricTh said:

No thanks to the Songkran festival. Enjoy then but suffer now.

 

It's just poor planning on the part of the govt

Agree and more of the same if they open before the majority are vaccinated, including expats.