11 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

True.  So when do you think schools should be re-opened?  Do you think education should be considered a special case?

Vaccinate the populace, the teachers and the parents, then re-open the schools.  Will there still be cases of kids or staff catching Covid of course, but if the model being used in the US and in Europe and the UK is followed the exposures and cases will be minimal.

12 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

  Do you think education should be considered a special case?

Nup. 

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

It does show you how overwhelmed the system is becoming and how scared they must be if they test and find thousands of more cases.  Where do they put them as everything is filling up fast.  Then to add insult to injury how many may die at home because they never were tested, were sick and needed treatment.  As you say it is disgraceful and this current administration has failed their people miserably, but still insists that everything will be ok, and pushes to open up the country by mid October.  Not seeing how that can work.   Get your house in order first, put the vaccines in play, stop messing around and lying and move forward.  What is it so damned hard for these people to see it, as it is right in front of their faces, yet they stare blindly at it and blinking like its not true.

Many countries post their lvl of testing and congralute the populice if testing numbers are high or ask for more cooperation if testing numbers are low. Here they hide the numbers from their citizens and have done so from the very beginning. The fan boys on here who said how fantastic Thailand is going, buying into the military govt's BS have always been wrong. The numbers have always been higher. This is what this mob of self serving, incompetent, corrupt morons do. It's obvious they are doing it now so what would make you think they didn't from the beginning. They tried to cover up the prison infections but were outed and they probably are still covering up numbers of infections within prisons and deaths. Bubble and seal. How many deaths? Armed forces. How many infections and deaths? How much is being covered up? Truth and transparency is not and never will be a part of a military government.

46 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

How reliable are the numbers from Burma?

Not at all. Until recently they were in the 10s - an obviously absurd figure given the country's geopolitical location and the Covid situation amongst its neighbours. Which makes the recent upsurge all the more concerning. If they are now reporting thousands, it suggests that the true numbers of new cases must be absolutely hellish.

#BreakingNews #NewsUpdate The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the purchase of 20 million doses of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002900

900

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Vaccinate the populace, the teachers and the parents, then re-open the schools.  Will there still be cases of kids or staff catching Covid of course, but if the model being used in the US and in Europe and the UK is followed the exposures and cases will be minimal.

Sounds good to me, except how long will it take to vaccinate Thailand's populace?  I don't have much faith in this, and suspect it will be many months, possibly years, and possibly impossible to achieve.  I don't think the Thai government will (or can) keep schools closed for that long and I truly hope they don't!

Just now, brewsterbudgen said:

Sounds good to me, except how long will it take to vaccinate Thailand's populace?  I don't have much faith in this, and suspect it will be many months, possibly years, and possibly impossible to achieve.  I don't think the Thai government will (or can) keep schools closed for that long and I truly hope they don't!

We are in total agreement, maybe the 20 million Pfizer vaccines the cabinet of this government just approved for purchase will start the process in October, but until then what the hell do we do with our kids and school.

2 minutes ago, anchadian said:

#BreakingNews #NewsUpdate The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the purchase of 20 million doses of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002900

900

Did they sign a contract and agree on October delivery date?

thailand numbers are fake

 

if you go to detention for  2 week, NOBODY IN HELL WOULD GO FREELY TO A TEST

 

i dont know anybody in thai was at a test ( exp. people arriving from abroad)

 

numbers sure 4 time higher or more

 

who cares , here we had 60k per day on same population like thailand ( 80mb) , and good luck no strict lockdowns  (exp 2 weeks in 15 month) and for tourism was always open and all tourist was  free to move at any time , and measmurments only for locals-residents.

happy was not in thailand ,absolut  not reliable and crazy changing every day stupid anouncments , like a casper cabinett

 

push up vaccination and stop lockdowns worldwide emedently, the price is much to high for the lockdowns incase of financials, suicides,hungerdeath,and other related issues due to lockdowns

 

poor thailand 

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

We are in total agreement, maybe the 20 million Pfizer vaccines the cabinet of this government just approved for purchase will start the process in October, but until then what the hell do we do with our kids and school.

dont let them go play motorbikes than they safe already. dont bet on october...life goes on

18 minutes ago, anchadian said:

#BreakingNews #NewsUpdate The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the purchase of 20 million doses of the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40002900

900

Adviser to the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), Clin. Prof. Dr. Udom Kachintorn, says medical workers who have received two Sinovac doses, will receive a third vaccine shot, also known as a booster, due to the spread of the Delta variant in many areas.

 

Clin. Prof. Dr. Udom said that the Delta variant, which was first detected in India, is spreading in 96 countries. Two months ago, 85 to 90 percent of COVID-19 infections in Thailand were the Alpha variant, which was first discovered in the United Kingdom (UK). In June and July, 30 percent of the infections in Thailand are the Delta variant. Its transmission rate is very high. Fifty percent of the infections are the Delta variant in greater Bangkok.

 

The Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines are 92 to 96 percent effective in preventing serious illness. There is little information on the Sinovac vaccine, but it is still 90 percent effective in preventing serious illness and death.

 

More:

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158124810512050

15 minutes ago, lapamita said:

thailand numbers are fake

 

if you go to detention for  2 week, NOBODY IN HELL WOULD GO FREELY TO A TEST

 

i dont know anybody in thai was at a test ( exp. people arriving from abroad)

 

numbers sure 4 time higher or more

 

who cares , here we had 60k per day on same population like thailand ( 80mb) , and good luck no strict lockdowns  (exp 2 weeks in 15 month) and for tourism was always open and all tourist was  free to move at any time , and measmurments only for locals-residents.

happy was not in thailand ,absolut  not reliable and crazy changing every day stupid anouncments , like a casper cabinett

 

push up vaccination and stop lockdowns worldwide emedently, the price is much to high for the lockdowns incase of financials, suicides,hungerdeath,and other related issues due to lockdowns

 

poor thailand 

I have heard that sometimes help if you lay down on belly.

Not sure what that works out at per dose?

 

The government said on Tuesday that they have spent 6.1 billion baht on 10.9 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine. The revelation comes as questions mount over the vaccine’s efficacy against the Delta variant.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1412330352719265796

 

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The news comes as Thailand’s Department of Disease Control (DDC) has noted that the COVID-19 situation has been aggravated by viral mutations since April, with the spread of the Delta variant

And compounded by an inept government

 

29 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Adviser to the Center for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA), Clin. Prof. Dr. Udom Kachintorn, says medical workers who have received two Sinovac doses, will receive a third vaccine shot, also known as a booster, due to the spread of the Delta variant in many areas.

 

Clin. Prof. Dr. Udom said that the Delta variant, which was first detected in India, is spreading in 96 countries. Two months ago, 85 to 90 percent of COVID-19 infections in Thailand were the Alpha variant, which was first discovered in the United Kingdom (UK). In June and July, 30 percent of the infections in Thailand are the Delta variant. Its transmission rate is very high. Fifty percent of the infections are the Delta variant in greater Bangkok.

 

The Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines are 92 to 96 percent effective in preventing serious illness. There is little information on the Sinovac vaccine, but it is still 90 percent effective in preventing serious illness and death.

 

More:

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158124810512050

Not True about Sinovac, Even China has said 2 jabs is not strong enough to stop Delta and they still haven't come out with a study about a booster to strengthen against Delta  

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158124699602050

Yasothon had 15 cases yesterday and 37 today not many big rises elsewhere so the other hospitals must be full already.

8 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I sure hope that is a step in the right direction, rather than the result of a lack of testing.

More like a drop in testing, walk-in's into hospital seem to be on the rise.

Numbers don't match up to the real picture.

3 hours ago, anchadian said:

Don Mueang airport’s cargo terminal to open as new COVID-19 field hospital July 12

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/don-mueang-airports-cargo-terminal-to-open-as-new-covid-19-field-hospital-july-12/

2000 wow that will fill up in one day, so where's the next one and the one after that?They haven't even started to fit it out.They are so far behind the 8 ball they're not even in the pool hall.

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not sure what that works out at per dose?

 

The government said on Tuesday that they have spent 6.1 billion baht on 10.9 million doses of the Sinovac vaccine. The revelation comes as questions mount over the vaccine’s efficacy against the Delta variant.

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1412330352719265796

 

Bt560 per shot.

17 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Bt560 per shot.

EU prizes:

 

Oxford/AstraZeneca: 1,78 € 

Johnson & Johnson: 8,50 $ 

Sanofi/GSK: 7,56 €

CureVac: 10 € 

Pfizer/BioNTech: 12 € 

Moderna: 18 $ 

 

So AZ cost in EU is aroud 68 bth! Can say <deleted> , how they pay so much. Pfizer cost 456 bth.

9 hours ago, Marvin Hagler said:

Todays numbers in no way whatsoever reflect reality.

 

In Amazing Thailand, reality reflects numbers ... numbers massaged, buffed, polished, to a high sheen ... so they fit seamlessly in the "everything is fine" fairy-tale.

 

~o:37;

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

The Cabinet on Tuesday approved the procurement of additional 10.9 million doses of Sinovac vaccine with the budget of 6.1 billion baht.

@TNAMCOT

https://twitter.com/TNAMCOTEnglish/status/1412364164979253260

 

This purchase just shows how out of touch, corrupt  and clueless Thailand is against the Delta variant that is the strongest form of Covid 19 the world has seen. Thailand seems to be more interested in keeping the creators of Covid happy China, then their own citizens. If the virus changes, Thailand has to change their useless vaccine strategy with it and its not another Chinese vaccine . Its that simple      

I use to watch the Thai version of the covid press conference(the new normal) for the stats on each province .  They stopped showing the results  cause they were in their opinion ,minuscule at the time before the workers came back to roost !

The provinces in the  (Northeast ) generally would be between 20 to 50 positive cases per day. My province never went above 9. Different story now !

#PhuketSandbox #COVID19 UPDATE: Two new local cases for today with 46 patients still in hospital. No imported cases so far.

 

Day 1 - 4 cases

Day 2 - 7 cases

Day 3 - 2 cases

Day 4 - 2 cases

Day 5 - 3 cases

Day 6 - 2 cases <— Today

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412367522406440964

 

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

#PhuketSandbox #COVID19 UPDATE: Two new local cases for today with 46 patients still in hospital. No imported cases so far.

 

Day 1 - 4 cases

Day 2 - 7 cases

Day 3 - 2 cases

Day 4 - 2 cases

Day 5 - 3 cases

Day 6 - 2 cases <— Today

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1412367522406440964

 

They would NEVER admit to imported case in their cute little sandbox

#Thailand is entering the 4th #COVID19 wave as more cases are of mutated virus, CCSA advisor says. #ThailandNews Read more: https://bit.ly/36j9yyC

 

7 minutes ago, club said:

They would NEVER admit to imported case in their cute little sandbox

Why they not? These donks can show that they box actualy works if they find imported case.

And they really cant hide if there is! Only feel sorry if some tourist get covid , hope there is much "normal" hospital beds available.

10 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I sure hope that is a step in the right direction, rather than the result of a lack of testing.

From the latest statement they released,

it sounds like theses figures are coming from walk-ins and people that need to be diagnosed.

So maybe we should be looking at this as being the total amount of people who felt sick enough to seek treatment and tested positive.

 

In any case, basing figures purely on community percentages only gives us the ratio of the random amount of people that show up for testing against the actual positives.

 

Places like Australia, where 200,000 seem to think they need testing and line up for hours, resulting in  8-10 people showing positives strikes me as being a bit nutty.

 

There was recent news in Australia that the actual line up to get tested was where some people were getting infected.

 

How they worked this out i dont know,

but it came from one of the Australian politicians anyway.

4 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:

Why they not? These donks can show that they box actualy works if they find imported case.

And they really cant hide if there is! Only feel sorry if some tourist get covid , hope there is much "normal" hospital beds available.

They are going to find imported cases because Tourist were told by Thai government that only one jab of AZ was needed to enter Thailand. That gives you 33% protection against the Delta Variant and Thailand has the nerve to call this full vaccination. This  is taking over Thailand. 2 jabs of AZ is over 90 %. Why they not ? Because you like this government dont understand what your in for. Why not tell tourist to take 2 jabs of AZ? It would take to long since Thailand is more interested in Money then human lives   

2 hours ago, club said:

Not True about Sinovac, Even China has said 2 jabs is not strong enough to stop Delta and they still haven't come out with a study about a booster to strengthen against Delta  

Third jab for booster they worked out to be Phiezer, I wonder if they repackaging now.