Blumpie Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Sorry, you missed my point. I'm currently in Bangkok. The new restrictions include statement "avoid unnecessary travel" That seems soft. What stops me from travel to another province. Oh apologies. I'll answer you in Thai and translate it to english: The answer to your question is yes. Have a nice day kap kap Kap Kap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Blumpie said: Be sure to take the BTS train! : D (sarcasm) With the way the Thai government typically runs these kinds of things, there's always a couple of pertinent questions to consider before heading out.... 1. Will the testing sites mentioned even be open to foreigners? 2. Will the sites have such low daily testing capacity to end up regularly turning away many who travel there. Edited July 10, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I asked yesterday, no reply. What does "avoid unnecessary travel" mean and how would it be policed. Visiting friends or family (Unless serious illness or death), travelling to attend a party, taking the dog for a walk, the list is endless. How could you police it is another question. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: I asked yesterday, no reply. What does "avoid unnecessary travel" mean and how would it be policed. Will they even have checkpoints on the main motorways out of Bangkok, or on every Exit? If I can't continue to work (so far, it seems I can), it will be "necessary" for me to get out of town to the beach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, robblok said: With luck we will see stabilizing not really a decline. This is just to stop spread it hink its already so bad that a decline if it happens will take a while best we can hope for is it not to top the 10.000. That is just my opninion. Yesterday, I mentioned the decline in infections that happened in India as a possibility for Thailand. I can’t explain why case numbers have dropped in India, but maybe this wave will run its course before the vaccination levels reach the point of achieving herd immunity. A natural decline would still leave infection numbers at a high level, but far lower than at the peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 #Thailand’s #COVID19 numbers continue to rise with daily records for new cases (9,326) and deaths (91) broken yet again, as a semi-lockdown in BK and 9 other provinces starts on Monday. (They also needlessly changed the graphic’s layout, leaving out the no of active cases…) https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1413683501522505733 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: With the way the Thai government typically runs these kinds of things, there's always a couple of pertinent questions to consider before heading out.... 1. Will the testing sites mentioned even be open to foreigners? 2. Will the sites have such low daily testing capacity to end up regularly turning away many who travel there. You believe you have covid and you go on the BTS train. ROFLMAO. I believe in Thailand they would find this perfectly acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, smedly said: who is "they" ? as I have said before - unless the death occurs in a hospital there is no certification by a medical professional - the village head man might sign something or even a cop, that is what happens here - it is not the west Cause of death = respiratory failure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worrab Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, jacko45k said: Should be mutual considering the UK has 3x the number of daily new cases of Thailand. But the difference is that almost everyone has been vaccinated keeping the hospital numbers down. And with decent vaccines which far outweigh Thailand's fascination with Sinovac which is now shown in tests to be totally useless against the Delta variant! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Will they even have checkpoints on the main motorways out of Bangkok, or on every Exit? If I can't continue to work (so far, it seems I can), it will be "necessary" for me to get out of town to the beach! Wait I though the malls were now pretty much closed except for the restaurants for takeaway, and shopping for food, as well as all schools of all types being closed. Tell me if I read the notice wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Sorry, you missed my point. I'm currently in Bangkok. The new restrictions include statement "avoid unnecessary travel" That seems soft. What stops me from travel to another province. just tell them your buffalo is sick - no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: So if that's the case, can we expect the "official" fatality figures that are published each day and on which we are commenting, to stabilise? Presumably any decision about relaxing restrictions in 14 days will be based on official figures, not hidden ones. Remember deaths lag. Some who died may have been admitted 3 wks ago. With close to 50,000 detections in the last wk (almost 2k from today and yesterday) and daily increases in ICU I would expect faltality numbers to increase for quite some time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: In Bangkok, "New COVID-19 testing sites will be opened for walk-in service at Thai-Japan Stadium, Hua Mark Stadium and Thupatemi Sports Stadium." https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/videos/514274189883126/ In theory, this should impact testing levels, unless they are going to pull resources from other places. On the down side, people who get tested are probably symptomatic, so the positivity rate from these tests are going to be high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Yesterday, I mentioned the decline in infections that happened in India as a possibility for Thailand. I can’t explain why case numbers have dropped in India, but maybe this wave will run its course before the vaccination levels reach the point of achieving herd immunity. A natural decline would still leave infection numbers at a high level, but far lower than at the peak. It has been said many times with linked articles that the virus in India has moved to rural areas. It is unknown how many are infected or died. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Yesterday, I mentioned the decline in infections that happened in India as a possibility for Thailand. I can’t explain why case numbers have dropped in India, but maybe this wave will run its course before the vaccination levels reach the point of achieving herd immunity. A natural decline would still leave infection numbers at a high level, but far lower than at the peak. A while ago Reuters were reporting experts concerns that testing in rural areas was very low so hiding the true number of cases there. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worrab Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, OJAS said: In which case so much for those who say in response to those who complain about the (in)adequacy of existing vaccination arrangements for British expats here that all the complainants need to do is to hop on a plane back to the UK to receive their free jabs there! Why do people make daft comments like this? Have you actually thought about all the hoops that require jumping through just to get there never mind coming back here to the family? And the expense of such an exercise? At the end of the day there should not be a need to do this under the agreement Thailand signed with WHO stating everyone including foreigners have to be treated equally! 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 Confirmation that all schools on the island of Phuket to close: BREAKING: The Governor of Phuket has signed the order for all schools on the island to close and to switch to online teaching only. This is effective from 12th July to 23rd July 2021 #Thailand #PhuketSandbox https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1413688338423324677 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, smedly said: who is "they" ? as I have said before - unless the death occurs in a hospital there is no certification by a medical professional - the village head man might sign something or even a cop, that is what happens here - it is not the west I have experienced first hand what happens with death outside of hospital and can say that a medical professional came and verified the cause of death.That may not happen everywhere but I think the death is documented and recorded even if not by a medical professional then by a government official which is who I would mean by they.I would also say that there would also be cases that don't get recorded. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fex Bluse Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: Charts looking ugly and reflects an even uglier reality that the virus has overwhelmed Thailand having been left to spread by poor control measures. Lets all hope the new semi lockdowns that are now coming into effect do something to flatten the curve. They should certainly help to do that but my fear is that Thailand is now stuck in a dark tunnel and has a long way to go yet. Keep safe everyone and RIP to the increasing number of those dying each day from covid. Covid deaths are now more than double those of road accidents each day. Rolling 7 day average (up to 8th July only) which includes prison cases and bar chart of community cases. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand Hi, my friend. I am sadly very doubtful that the miniscule, rubber ducky measures will have any meaningful impact at all. Virtually every country with this level of transmission has gone into months' long genuine, enforced lockdowns or highly restricted movement. Unless the Thais do similar, they are looking at India style breakdown. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, dinsdale said: It has been said many times with linked articles that the virus in India has moved to rural areas. It is unknown how many are infected or died. Which implies that infection in heavily populated areas in India have tapered off because reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Yesterday, I mentioned the decline in infections that happened in India as a possibility for Thailand. I can’t explain why case numbers have dropped in India, but maybe this wave will run its course before the vaccination levels reach the point of achieving herd immunity. A natural decline would still leave infection numbers at a high level, but far lower than at the peak. Maybe because the virus has migrated out of the large cities into surrounding areas where there is little in the way of testing and medical facilities and official reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 Bangkok Governor Aswin Kwanmuang on Friday opened the city’s first modular ICU at Ratchapipat Hospital in Thawi Watthana district for treatment of Covid-19 patients in the red category, or those with severe symptoms that require respirators The building of the modular ICU is supported by Siam Cement Group (SCG) with the aim to increase the hospital’s ICU rooms equipped with an air pressure system that will reduce the spread of the virus and other germs to other parts of the hospital. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003057 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: Looking at the graphs and charts, this is taking off and I am afraid the doubling of cases and deaths will be in just a few short weeks. I am sure that this government believes that after 14 days it will decline but then I have other ideas based upon what I am seeing, hearing and watching play out in the surrounding countries. Stay safe folks and ensure you protect your families. With very few restrictions at all placed upon travel, there is not going to be any significant reduction in numbers within 14 Days. Viruses need a host, and if the host is allowed to travel, Hey ! you know what ? the Virus also travels. Edited July 10, 2021 by Cake Monster 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: With the way the Thai government typically runs these kinds of things, there's always a couple of pertinent questions to consider before heading out.... 1. Will the testing sites mentioned even be open to foreigners? 2. Will the sites have such low daily testing capacity to end up regularly turning away many who travel there. Or have such low testing capacity and no digital systems management that they lead to thousands of people waiting in queues for hours with amongst some percentage of people who probably ARE infected, further infecting others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Wait I though the malls were now pretty much closed except for the restaurants for takeaway, and shopping for food, as well as all schools of all types being closed. Tell me if I read the notice wrong. Malls are closed, but my office is in a separate tower at Centralworld. In any case, I think the supermarket, food court and restaurants on the 6th and 7th floors will still be open (for takeaway). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said: I have experienced first hand what happens with death outside of hospital and can say that a medical professional came and verified the cause of death.That may not happen everywhere but I think the death is documented and recorded even if not by a medical professional then by a government official which is who I would mean by they.I would also say that there would also be cases that don't get recorded. there would be exceptions - if the person was being treated as an outpatient for example (attended by a doctor) then yes a doctor might get involved or if someone was found with a strange hole in their head that isn't there normally then yes that would also be an exception 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post James105 Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Cake Monster said: With very few restrictions at all placed upon travel, there is not going to e any significant reduction in numbers with 14 Days. Viruses need a host, and if the host is allowed to travel, Hey ! you know what ? the Virus also travels. There won't be any reduction in 14 days. It's not 14 days. 14 days is standard Covid psychological trickery as to tell the population the truth that it is more like 4-6 months would mean significant mental distress and demands for compensation from businesses that have to close. In 14 days when it is obvious that infections are still rising, that is the point when the lockdown gets harder - for another "14 days". 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, anchadian said: Bangkok Governor Aswin Kwanmuang on Friday opened the city’s first modular ICU at Ratchapipat Hospital in Thawi Watthana district for treatment of Covid-19 patients in the red category, or those with severe symptoms that require respirators The building of the modular ICU is supported by Siam Cement Group (SCG) with the aim to increase the hospital’s ICU rooms equipped with an air pressure system that will reduce the spread of the virus and other germs to other parts of the hospital. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003057 Reading the article it states they aim for 40 new ICU beds before the end of July, thats certainly a welcome addition, now need to replicate x10 throughout Bangkok just to keep up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 NNT doesn't show the breakdown by province anymore. Anywhere else to find ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Banks nationwide will adjust their closing times as follows: Regular banks close no later than 3:30pm Banks in malls close no later than 5pm Banks in Yala, Narathiwat, and Pattani close no later than 3pm #COVID19 #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1413691740461015043 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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