Protest against PM in Pattaya by Thai Mai Thon group

[big dendrobenaes]

12 hours ago, steven100 said:

lol ......    where's the crowd control .......

 

and what about the infamous MASKS???

[steven100]

5 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

What do you think of Prayut's current performance? Do you thing he, as the COVID-19 Czar, has discharged his duty to the public in an exemplary manner, in terms of the handling of the COVID-19 crisis, to include the nation's economy and health?

Is it that you see him as the best of a bad lot or do you think all his decisions have been wise is this regard? What are your views on the decision to allow people to travel widely for Songkran?

To answer your questions truthfully,  there is no easy one fix solution to the Covid19 global epidemic as every country is now struggling to contain and manage effectively. Look at the US, and the UK at present with number escalating to their highest daily numbers for those becoming infected and deaths, look at italy, India.  Could the situation have been handled better, yes of course it could have,  the vaccine procurement could have been handled better,  but did Khun Prayut have a crystal ball so he could confirm a third wave of the virus was imminent.

Did any other PM that your aware of handle things so differently that it's impact wasn't felt ? Do other countries have a readied supply of vaccines.? I think most will be waiting months if not into next year.  I think lockdowns are essential to help curb the spread of the virus,  also, I read where Australia has developed a 10 minute Covid19 test result, so if millions of these kits were available to households at least those infected could seek treatment instead of continued transmission outside.  This coupled with vaccine rollout .....  a double whammy approach is the only way to knock Covid on the head. imo     

[impulse]

5 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

What do you think of Prayut's current performance? Do you thing he, as the COVID-19 Czar, has discharged his duty to the public in an exemplary manner, in terms of the handling of the COVID-19 crisis, to include the nation's economy and health?

Is it that you see him as the best of a bad lot or do you think all his decisions have been wise is this regard? What are your views on the decision to allow people to travel widely for Songkran?

Your statement is based on the premise that he's actually calling the shots and isn't just the public face of those who really do.

 

The problem with Thai politicians who actually call the shots is that they don't last long before they're ousted.

 

[steven100]

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

they don't last long before they're ousted.

Thaivisa farang have been saying that for years and years and he's still there stronger than ever.   imo

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Thaivisa farang have been saying that for years and years and he's still there stronger than ever.   imo

He's there at the pleasure of the Elites, as long as he toes their line.

 

[jcmj]

I’ll take Mr. T any day. He certainly had his flaws, but was great for the foreigners. 

[sammieuk1]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Whoever replaced Prayuth couldn't do any worse.

 

IMHO a lot would depend on who wins the election despite the governments manipulation of the result, and if another military coup were to take place  before or after an election.

 

If it were blatantly rigged like the last one there could well be a lot more people on the streets

Anutin could Prawit could just two of the 1001 DPM's ????

[NanLaew]

15 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

19 hours ago, steven100 said:

OMG that's scary    !!    but i doubt it'll ever happen .....  Prayut is too cunning to let that happen.    imo

My facebook is today full of posts from Thai's calling Prayut a narcissist !

Unfortunately, history teaches us that narcism alone has never been the grounds for a successful coup, insurrection or even an impeachment. But nice to see the hoi-poloi are forging some sort of unity and a step up from 'he dyes his hair'.

[NanLaew]

10 hours ago, steven100 said:

To answer your questions truthfully,  there is no easy one fix solution to the Covid19 global epidemic as every country is now struggling to contain and manage effectively. Look at the US, and the UK at present with number escalating to their highest daily numbers for those becoming infected and deaths, look at italy, India.  Could the situation have been handled better, yes of course it could have,  the vaccine procurement could have been handled better,  but did Khun Prayut have a crystal ball so he could confirm a third wave of the virus was imminent.

Did any other PM that your aware of handle things so differently that it's impact wasn't felt ? Do other countries have a readied supply of vaccines.? I think most will be waiting months if not into next year.  I think lockdowns are essential to help curb the spread of the virus,  also, I read where Australia has developed a 10 minute Covid19 test result, so if millions of these kits were available to households at least those infected could seek treatment instead of continued transmission outside.  This coupled with vaccine rollout .....  a double whammy approach is the only way to knock Covid on the head. imo     

So your defense of the Thai mismanagement is the similar cock-ups in other countries where the leaders of certain nations have been rather selective on what scientific advice to follow? Like Modi going ahead with mass, nationwide pre-election rallies in India. Or the UK and EU leadership allowing larger and larger crowds travel and gather for a major sporting event. All this while not announcing the results of their earlier, controlled experiments on mass social gatherings with the pre- and post-event testing of attendees. Or Australia and New Zealand with variously autocratic and charismatic leadership where both are so very far behind in the basic acquisition of vaccines that their roll-out is more like a trickle.

 

Thailand blew any chance to lead last year when they got lucky with the rather benign first wave and fell back on their laurels. Just because Tuu followed the mostly right-leaning, nationalistic herd doesn't get him any brownie points IMHO, none whatsoever.

[jacko45k]

12 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Plenty of tear gas and water cannons today in the dark red zone of Bangkok ???? 

Yep.... they couldn't find them when trying to put out a large fire at a plastics factory recently, but here we are when it comes to using them as weapons. 

[steven100]

On 7/18/2021 at 8:10 AM, mikebell said:

There was a crowd of seven and 1500 police.

yeah well ......   I guess the police don't want that crowd getting too rowdy     !      lol  

[NoshowJones]

16 hours ago, jcmj said:

I’ll take Mr. T any day. He certainly had his flaws, but was great for the foreigners. 

I may be wrong here, but did Mr T not start this farcical 90 day reporting nonsense which treats foreigners as if they are criminals.?

[billd766]

21 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Anutin could Prawit could just two of the 1001 DPM's ????

I don't think so anymore. Prawit came with Prayuth and Anutin will go with whoever pays and promises the most.

 

IMHO the PPRP cannot survive without a coalition and most of the one parties will disappear. A lot of the PPRP will try to cross to parties who have a good chance of winning but they may be rejected by the parties they deserted from for the last "election".

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I may be wrong here, but did Mr T not start this farcical 90 day reporting nonsense which treats foreigners as if they are criminals.?

I did say I may be wrong, but I read it here on Thaivisa.

[billd766]

5 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I may be wrong here, but did Mr T not start this farcical 90 day reporting nonsense which treats foreigners as if they are criminals.?

Actually he didn't start it as it has been on the statue books for donkeys years. He may have restarted it but IIRC back in the early noughties it wasn't required.

[Mavideol]

On 7/18/2021 at 7:28 AM, steven100 said:

exactly,   but thaivisa members always know what's right and what thailand must have.    lol

look at the USA for a good example..... kicked out Orange Man and vaccinations and infections started to improve

[Mavideol]

On 7/18/2021 at 7:28 AM, steven100 said:

exactly,   but thaivisa members always know what's right and what thailand must have.    lol

who the heck could do worse then Prayut

[Doctor Tom]

33 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

who the heck could do worse then Prayut

The next General in the queue.

[billd766]

57 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I did say I may be wrong, but I read it here on Thaivisa.

You may well be right as I found nothing about the 90 day restart on Google.

[Eindhoven]

On 7/18/2021 at 1:41 PM, impulse said:

Your statement is based on the premise that he's actually calling the shots and isn't just the public face of those who really do.

 

The problem with Thai politicians who actually call the shots is that they don't last long before they're ousted.

 

I made no statement. I asked questions. Some understood why.

[Eindhoven]

  

On 7/18/2021 at 1:39 PM, steven100 said:

To answer your questions truthfully,  there is no easy one fix solution to the Covid19 global epidemic as every country is now struggling to contain and manage effectively. Look at the US, and the UK at present with number escalating to their highest daily numbers for those becoming infected and deaths, look at italy, India.  Could the situation have been handled better, yes of course it could have,  the vaccine procurement could have been handled better,  but did Khun Prayut have a crystal ball so he could confirm a third wave of the virus was imminent.

Did any other PM that your aware of handle things so differently that it's impact wasn't felt ? Do other countries have a readied supply of vaccines.? I think most will be waiting months if not into next year.  I think lockdowns are essential to help curb the spread of the virus,  also, I read where Australia has developed a 10 minute Covid19 test result, so if millions of these kits were available to households at least those infected could seek treatment instead of continued transmission outside.  This coupled with vaccine rollout .....  a double whammy approach is the only way to knock Covid on the head. imo     

You did not answer any of my questions. You just tried to deflect.

 

What do you think of Prayut's current performance? No reply.

 

Do you thing he, as the COVID-19 Czar, has discharged his duty to the public in an exemplary manner, in terms of the handling of the COVID-19 crisis, to include the nation's economy and health?  Your reply was.... if he had a crystal ball.

 

Is it that you see him as the best of a bad lot or do you think all his decisions have been wise is this regard? A bit of obfuscation here possibly covered by the crystal ball question.

 

What are your views on the decision to allow people to travel widely for Songkran? No reply.

 

You intimate that he is cunning and intelligent etc, but instead of using the traits that you insist that he has, you now state that he would instead need a crystal ball.

 

What is your opinion of Thamanat Prompow, also known as Thammanat Prompao, Yuthaphum Bophlom, Manat Bophlom, and Patchara Prompao being the "main artery" in Prayuth's government? Another one who appears to be rather frugal with the truth.

He described himself thus: https://web.archive.org/web/20190911193303/https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2019/09/10/world/asia/10reuters-thailand-politics.html

 

and the position he has been given within the party seems to confirm that.

 

Also read about other MPs claiming that he helped them out with cash...

 

Is intelligence and cunning used only to enrich themselves? I ask because I don't see any plan to revive the economy other than the patently ridiculous.

Has your opinion of the man and the party changed over the years?

 

I ask you because you seem to be very positive about all he does. So perhaps you would be best to know of and understand his achievements.

So far, it's not looking good. Try again.

 

You can answer my questions honestly or you can choose to stay silent....up to you.

 

[steven100]

1 hour ago, Eindhoven said:

You can answer my questions honestly or you can choose to stay silent....up to you

I will damn well choose what I like ......   lol    ????     but thanks for asking .