the green light Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 9 hours ago, keith101 said: Australia has locked down the country again with no entry for anyone with just over 100 new cases daily and Thailand with now over 11,000 new daily cases is opening up to tourists you have to wonder what the mentality of this Government is . Not to worry ..who is the stupid and ignorant to world event tourist would want to come on holiday with wife and kids to thailand and get sick.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, dinsdale said: And the same is happening in Aus but they aint ruining running the country. Logistics is a big part of armed forces. "Logistics is a big part of "some" armed forces".I think that sounds better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, FarFlungFalang said: They've mentioned the possibility of Wuhan style lockdown where they deliver food and water to the home, so be careful what you wish for! You really want a Wuhan style lockdown ? Where people get locked in their rooms or dragged away to who knows where because they speak against the government. Or you ban domestic flights and allow millions of infected people to travel around the world on international flights. It doesn't matter if it started in a wet market or a lab. It Started from Wuhan CHINA and they failed to control it, That's the point and they should have kept it there. How does the Thai government reward this? Buy nothing but useless China vaccines . Somebody in Thailand is getting major kickbacks 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2021 Prakit Vathesatogkit has come to the defence of the Chinese-made Sinovac vaccine, saying that the negative criticism of the vaccine is “unfair and biased”. As an expert on lung diseases at Ramathibodi Hospital, Mahidol University, and a former dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the university, Dr. Prakit said yesterday (Sunday) on social media that, although he is not a frontline medic treating COVID-19 patients, he has been closely following the performance of medical personnel, especially those specialised in lung diseases, with great concern. In the current critical situation, he said he has been urging people to get vaccinated, adding that he was inoculated with AstraZeneca vaccine in March, because he is over 60. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/senior-thai-lung-expert-defends-sinovac-vaccine-against-biased-criticism/ 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FarFlungFalang Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, club said: You really want a Wuhan style lockdown ? Where people get locked in their rooms or dragged away to who knows where because they speak against the government. Or you ban domestic flights and allow millions of infected people to travel around the world on international flights. It doesn't matter if it started in a wet market or a lab. It Started from Wuhan CHINA and they failed to control it, That's the point and they should have kept it there. How does the Thai government reward this? Buy nothing but useless China vaccines . Somebody in Thailand is getting major kickbacks Hey Club read my post and the post I was replying to carefully and you will see I was warning against the Wuhan style lockdown other than that you're spot on. Edited July 19, 2021 by FarFlungFalang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2 is 1 Posted July 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2021 Bangkok, 19 July, 2021 – The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is pleased to report the first foreign visitors to arrive under the ‘Samui Plus’ programme have been enjoying the legendary Thai hospitality and natural beauty of Samui, as they travel around the popular holiday destination. There were five arrivals from France, Germany, and the United Kingdom who touched down at Samui Airport on Bangkok Airways flight PG5125, and another four from Singapore and Hong Kong on flight PG 5171, on Thursday, 15 July. Both flights were part of Bangkok Airways’ new three-times daily Bangkok-Samui service that enables international tourists to Samui to connect via Bangkok. https://www.tatnews.org/2021/07/first-samui-plus-arrivals-enjoying-their-visit-to-famous-island/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradise Pete Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 hours ago, rabas said: No. Efficacy means whatever a study intends it to mean. Even your WHO friends know that... "A vaccine’s efficacy is measured in a controlled clinical trial and is based on how many people who got vaccinated developed the ‘outcome of interest’" The WHO, on vaccines. https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-and-protection Yes, but that's considering it to be a binary outcome. Either you get it or you don't. It doesn't consider severity of the infection. All the vaccines reduce average severity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted July 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, 2 is 1 said: Bangkok, 19 July, 2021 – The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is pleased to report the first foreign visitors to arrive under the ‘Samui Plus’ programme have been enjoying the legendary Thai hospitality and natural beauty of Samui, as they travel around the popular holiday destination. There were five arrivals from France, Germany, and the United Kingdom who touched down at Samui Airport on Bangkok Airways flight PG5125, and another four from Singapore and Hong Kong on flight PG 5171, on Thursday, 15 July. Both flights were part of Bangkok Airways’ new three-times daily Bangkok-Samui service that enables international tourists to Samui to connect via Bangkok. https://www.tatnews.org/2021/07/first-samui-plus-arrivals-enjoying-their-visit-to-famous-island/ Flight are being banned around domestic locations because there is a national health crisis but one can still go on holidays to Phuket and Koh Samui.They fly three times a day to Samui?For 5 passengers?Did the DDW (Department of Dim Wits) authorise this? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post club Posted July 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Flight are being banned around domestic locations because there is a national health crisis but one can still go on holidays to Phuket and Koh Samui.They fly three times a day to Samui?For 5 passengers?Did the DDW (Department of Dim Wits) authorise this? 9 people , You should be very proud of that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said: Bangkok, 19 July, 2021 – The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) is pleased to report the first foreign visitors to arrive under the ‘Samui Plus’ programme have been enjoying the legendary Thai hospitality and natural beauty of Samui, as they travel around the popular holiday destination. There were five arrivals from France, Germany, and the United Kingdom who touched down at Samui Airport on Bangkok Airways flight PG5125, and another four from Singapore and Hong Kong on flight PG 5171, on Thursday, 15 July. Both flights were part of Bangkok Airways’ new three-times daily Bangkok-Samui service that enables international tourists to Samui to connect via Bangkok. https://www.tatnews.org/2021/07/first-samui-plus-arrivals-enjoying-their-visit-to-famous-island/ Who the hell travels in a pandemic to go on holiday in a country where the virus is starting to go off? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worrab Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Flight are being banned around domestic locations because there is a national health crisis but one can still go on holidays to Phuket and Koh Samui.They fly three times a day to Samui?For 5 passengers?Did the DDW (Department of Dim Wits) authorise this? I have been trying to find the piece that mentions that flights to Phuket and Samui are allowed despite all other domestic flights being grounded! They will do anything to open up to tourism during these troubled times. An absolute joke, or it would be if it was not so serious! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, club said: 9 people , You should be very proud of that Yes I see where I went wrong, 9 passengers, well that's alright then, 3 flights a day should just manage the social distancing required by the DDS the Department of Diminished Sensibilities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, anchadian said: Prakit Vathesatogkit has come to the defence of the Chinese-made Sinovac vaccine, saying that the negative criticism of the vaccine is “unfair and biased”. As an expert on lung diseases at Ramathibodi Hospital, Mahidol University, and a former dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the university, Dr. Prakit said yesterday (Sunday) on social media that, although he is not a frontline medic treating COVID-19 patients, he has been closely following the performance of medical personnel, especially those specialised in lung diseases, with great concern. In the current critical situation, he said he has been urging people to get vaccinated, adding that he was inoculated with AstraZeneca vaccine in March, because he is over 60. https://www.thaipbsworld.com/senior-thai-lung-expert-defends-sinovac-vaccine-against-biased-criticism/ It’s the better than nothing argument again. It does acknowledge that mRNA vaccines give better protection. But isn’t it all water under the bridge now? I thought government policy is now I shot sinovac, one shot AZ, or nothing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, club said: 9 people , You should be very proud of that Maybe these use 1 million bth/ day and TAT get little more close to money what they expect. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimfan Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: Australia is currently taking about 3,035 people each week into hotel quarantine, and that's after the total was cut by 50%.It was until recently about 6,000. Official figures a few weeks ago where about 160k had been granted exemption to leave the country. That figure does not include travel in NZ travel bubble. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: Yes I see where I went wrong, 9 passengers, well that's alright then, 3 flights a day should just manage the social distancing required by the DDS the Department of Diminished Sensibilities. There are much more crew on flight than passenger's who is paying airline companys operating losses!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Dogmatix said: If only the government could suppress the virus as efficiently as they suppress protests and freedom of expression, we would have nothing to fear. Yesterday there was a poster on here who wanted the government to suppress information about Covid. Turned out he was just a conspiracy theorist with nothing to offer except wait a year and we’d see the light and realize he is right 5555. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said: There are much more crew on flight than passenger's who is paying airline companys operating losses!? Thai Airways Frequent Flyer points should just about cover it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussienam Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: As I said very early last year, they have to let it run it's natural course, yes people will die, but lockdowns will have people living in poverty for years on, that or paying the debt till their grandkids kids pay it off. While it's running it's natural course, vaccines can come into play and there we have a balance until we can eradicate it. That's just my take on it. I agree in part, inevitably having to let the virus run it's natural course, provided that hospitals still have capacity to admit patients to ICU (or custom built field hospitals) and ample oxygen supplies. This will offset preventable deaths. In the meantime, staggered lockdowns, when numbers ramp back up, give breathing space for hospitals to cope. As always, the most vulnerable in the community should have priority to effective vaccines. Once enough people have had the jab, let the virus rip and open up. At some point, I am guessing not too far away now, governments need to weigh up the economic devastation and financially ruined lives versus opening up with a partially vaccinated population. It must be reaching (or already has reached) a critical juncture (how this is measured, I have no idea). What that vaccinated percentage is, I am guessing something measured along the lines of those countries who are now opening back up. This severe delaying of vaccine rollouts will definitely cause more financial ruin, suicides and COVID deaths (as well as deaths from other illnesses due to all ICU beds being taken up with COVID cases). Edited July 19, 2021 by aussienam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkpjed Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 What happened to the good old days when Thailand was patting themselves on the back declaring what an amazing job they had done containing the virus? สมน้ำน้า Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Yogi Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 10 hours ago, wensiensheng said: If true, I wonder why they aren’t vaccinating more people everyday? 10m AZ plus 10 mil sinovac, equals 20 mil in total per month, which is roughly 600k or so a day. It would suggest that there is another bottleneck. No bottleneck, just another lie. l was at a hospital in Pattaya on Saturday, no people there as they had no vaccines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Paradise Pete said: Yes, but that's considering it to be a binary outcome. Either you get it or you don't. It doesn't consider severity of the infection. All the vaccines reduce average severity. Infection, hospitalization, and death are all binary outcomes. Many studies measure the efficacy of all three and report them separately. Hospitalization and death are measures of severity. You could also define more levels of severity like ICU, intubation, even 'above average severity'. What you will find is all vaccines are helpful, but all vaccines are not the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 11 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: Except it's usually the fake stuff! it still works.....a friend said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 We're all gonna die...and the incredibly vast majority not from Covid, so well past time to resume living again before you do. For me...never stopped! Live and let live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, Nkpjed said: What happened to the good old days when Thailand was patting themselves on the back declaring what an amazing job they had done containing the virus? สมน้ำน้า I’m pretty sure the politicians are still doing that. I don’t watch tv, but from press reports, they think they are doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) From thread just started Thai news forum. The rapidly spreading Delta variant of COVID-19 has already overtaken the Alpha variant as the dominant strain in Thailand, with Delta accounting for 62.6% of 3,340 samples examined by the Medical Sciences Department, compared to 34.1% of Alpha cases. Edited July 19, 2021 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 From thread just started Thai news forum. The rapidly spreading Delta variant of COVID-19 has already overtaken the Alpha variant as the dominant strain in Thailand, with Delta accounting for 62.6% of 3,340 samples examined by the Medical Sciences Department, compared to 34.1% of Alpha cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Wuhan style lockdown for Bangkok considered Dr Opart says if the new infection rate remains high, there is a possibility that a lockdown like the one Wuhan imposed may be in the cards. This lockdown would entail people staying at home, disallowing travel, and food and water being delivered to people’s homes says Dr Opart. The doctor adds that the measure will slowly intensify until the situation is under control. https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-news-and-updates/1-5-million-doses-of-pfizer-courtesy-of-the-usa-are-anticipated-this-thursday The Thethaiger are not renowned for their reporting accuracy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 hours ago, superal said: Sorry but have to disagree about the army general comment because the highly successful UK vaccine rollout was partly organised by the British army . Brigadier Prosser worked along with the ceo of the NHS and set up over 1400 vaccination sites in one week British Army (just like all agencies with relevant capability/expertise) operating under the direction of UK government, who run the country. That is the norm in such "emergencies". Thai government owned and directed by Thai military. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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