Popular Post Nojohndoe Posted August 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2021 If they prove reliable good move. Local production good move. Why some people harp on about the lack of sound from electric vehicles is amusing. Many, if not most, modern cars are near silent at nominal urban speeds anyway unless some clown goes to the trouble of making them a noisy variation of pollution. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Percy P said: Electricity use for cooking is as cheap as LPG has ,and is butter for the environment . Oohh... I like butter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Dan Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said: If they prove reliable good move. Local production good move. Why some people harp on about the lack of sound from electric vehicles is amusing. Many, if not most, modern cars are near silent at nominal urban speeds anyway unless some clown goes to the trouble of making them a noisy variation of pollution. Natural gas is much cleaner than coal and relatively cheap. Thailand produces approximately 5.5 kWh of electricity from solar out of a total electricity generation of approximately 170 kWh. I say enforce the LPG rules for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 This is nothing new. Hotels have been using electric tuktuks for years. Now, if they start usin them as regular tuktuks that that would be something! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nojohndoe Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thai Dan said: Natural gas is much cleaner than coal and relatively cheap. Thailand produces approximately 5.5 kWh of electricity from solar out of a total electricity generation of approximately 170 kWh. I say enforce the LPG rules for now. If solar is expanded it will eat into the 22 percent of coal based generation. LPG is still the main expensive generation source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, johng said: So do these electric ones have a sound system to recreate that sound ? if not they shouldn't be called Tuk Tuks any more but what to call the sound of an electric motor ? also if no sound how will pedestrians know to jump out of the way ???? Your comment reminded me of Simon and Garfunkel’s song “ Sound of Silence “ ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris.B said: Okay.... How far and how long on one charge? How long to fully charge? How long do the batteries last before replacement? How much does battery replacements cost? Who/where will the batteries be recycled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Does Bkk have the electricity infrastructure in place to charge all the envisaged electric vehicles? Nah... charge at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Dan Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said: If solar is expanded it will eat into the 22 percent of coal based generation. LPG is still the main expensive generation source. At what cost and what environmental impact? LPG is a good, clean option and Thailand should be proud they have gone that route to the extent they have. Pushing for more solar and wind, with the associated costs and environmental impacts in the current covid economy (not to mention this administration), would be the final nails in the coffin. Would you like to see the economy recover? Most people would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHdiver Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Looks like they copied the etuktuk from Switzerland https://www.tuktuk.ch/en/ Btw. if the 300k baht one is going under 4 sec from zero to hero 100, it will be a big hit (at least into the next wall). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 ฿60,000 electric won't be more than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 With little or no tourists, they are a waste of money. There is no electric charging station around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Chris.B said: Okay.... How far and how long on one charge? How long to fully charge? How long do the batteries last before replacement? How much does battery replacements cost? cost is low but tax is similar to wine i've heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, mrfill said: The lead photo immediately brought back childhood memories from 60 years ago. Gosh, how things have advanced since then..... indeed, completely forgot about those. remember the commotion when the milkman left his horse at home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montnoveau Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, CHdiver said: Looks like they copied the etuktuk from Switzerland https://www.tuktuk.ch/en/ Btw. if the 300k baht one is going under 4 sec from zero to hero 100, it will be a big hit (at least into the next wall). Copied or not, they're all from China anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montnoveau Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, hkt83100 said: Bsssss bsssss? Anyway, many also call them samlor, meaning 'three-wheeler'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangless Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 There have been a number of electric Tuk-Tuks in Chiang Mai for a few years now. No idea of the costs although I was told they were quit a bit more than the LPG models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Its good to see local manufacture and uniquely thai etc, but resorts, hotels and condos are already using electric golf carts, and have been for years. My condo block in Jomtien has one downstairs, drops at the beach and mall. I'm not getting that this is a groundbreaking new form of transport. Its a little niche market thats already serviced with electric golf carts. Edited August 12, 2021 by Peterw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: When they come into use I hope they have a warning sound permanently on or people will get run over, IMO. That was a cause for concern in the UK when electric/hybrid cars were first registered as taxis/private hire vehicles. Eventually a study concluded that a warning noise was unnecessary. The constant whining sound from the front right hand seat was deemed an adequate warning of the vehicles approach... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Thai Dan said: Natural gas is much cleaner than coal and relatively cheap. Both true. But... NG is probably worse environmentally than oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, Thai Dan said: LPG is a good, clean option ???????????????????????? ya crack me up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Montnoveau said: Anyway, many also call them samlor, meaning 'three-wheeler'. Samlor is usually used to refer to motorcycle with sidecar, not a tuk tuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Chris.B said: Okay.... How far and how long on one charge? How long to fully charge? How long do the batteries last before replacement? How much does battery replacements cost? Sir you do know hard questions make people uncomfortable..... Also Where will a driver charge his Tuk Tuk? How will a all but currently broke Tuk Tuk driver buy one? Will a Tuk Tuk driver want to buy one? I sure would not if I was a driver... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montnoveau Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, mikebike said: Samlor is usually used to refer to motorcycle with sidecar, not a tuk tuk. I have heard even bicycle taxis - Rickshaws - called samlor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Dan Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, mikebike said: ???????????????????????? ya crack me up!! I'm here all week! https://group.met.com/fyouture/natural-gas-vs-coal/66 (the first result from a search) 50% cleaner than coal. Natural gas plants can be idled and turned to full power, or anything in between, 24/7. But I must apologize: This is about Tuk Tuks, and I think it's fine if they move all 20k+ of them to battery power. I have a feeling the Tuk Tuks that Bangkok Metal Works is talking about producing are based on the following study: https://www.engineeringforchange.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Tuk-Tuk-in-Thailand.pdf And anything under THB 100,000 will be without the batteries (read the study). My issues center more around setting close/near deadlines to convert ALL or produce ONLY electric vehicles by some arbitrary date with no way to pay for it without bankrupting an already bankrupt population, and in many cases taking away their livelihood in the same stroke. Don't give corruption a chance either, please..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: carry up to a ton in weight. This I've got to see with my own eyes before I buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nojohndoe Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Thai Dan said: At what cost and what environmental impact? LPG is a good, clean option and Thailand should be proud they have gone that route to the extent they have. Pushing for more solar and wind, with the associated costs and environmental impacts in the current covid economy (not to mention this administration), would be the final nails in the coffin. Would you like to see the economy recover? Most people would. To be honest I do not understand your comment. Yes LPG is a clean burning fuel other than co2 output. But in an internal combustion engine is still inefficient . A constant burn electric generation plant is somewhat more efficient in conversion to electric . But either one adds to the atmospheric build of carbon emissions. Solar or other alternatives have their own environmental pollution issues but dramatically less in terms of the demon atmospheric carbon problem. The best long term solution IMO is to eliminate as much as possible the private automobile proliferation and provide efficient mass public transport. I do believe that eventually the world will be forced to that one way or another on a scale most would consider impossible. That is if in the longer term humanity has not reduced itself to a primitive state of simple survival in much smaller numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Dan Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, djayz said: This I've got to see with my own eyes before I buy one. Here's one from the U.S.: Put 4, ahem, "healthy" Americans (I'm American, so..) in there plus a driver and you're tipping the scales at a ton. And that model is for sale in the U.S. Here's a good link to that reality: https://www.treehugger.com/wheeled-electric-tuk-tuks-offer-clean-silent-shuttle-delivery-option-4857674 Like I say, that's probably fine and Thailand may be able to handle it with some relatively affordable shifts to the grid. If so, more power to them. But in the meantime they can simply go with natural gas while moving in that direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Chris.B said: Okay.... How far and how long on one charge? How long to fully charge? How long do the batteries last before replacement? How much does battery replacements cost? Where are the charging stations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Dan Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nojohndoe said: To be honest I do not understand your comment. Yes LPG is a clean burning fuel other than co2 output. But in an internal combustion engine is still inefficient . A constant burn electric generation plant is somewhat more efficient in conversion to electric . But either one adds to the atmospheric build of carbon emissions. Solar or other alternatives have their own environmental pollution issues but dramatically less in terms of the demon atmospheric carbon problem. The best long term solution IMO is to eliminate as much as possible the private automobile proliferation and provide efficient mass public transport. I do believe that eventually the world will be forced to that one way or another on a scale most would consider impossible. That is if in the longer term humanity has not reduced itself to a primitive state of simple survival in much smaller numbers. Sorry you can't understand. Demons? Proliferation? Forced? Humanity reducing itself to a primitive state of simple survival in much smaller numbers?!!?!! Wow! Take it easy, big fella. We'll get there eventually and harness all that mother nature has to offer. Just try not to bankrupt and starve those that you presume to be helping. Then we can all get along. Unless the temperature goes up another 1.5 degrees, of course. Then we're screwed, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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