1993 Yamaha Belle-R. Restoration thread.

[stubuzz]

18 hours ago, Simple Jack said:

Darn. The non heat resistant can claims to etch. Hopefully it will be okay. Thanks for the link. Will order some up for future projects.

I forgot to mention that etch primer must be followed by a normal primer as you cannot paint directly over it.

[Simple Jack]

Quick update.

 

Got the forks back together. Rims & hubs have been done. Reached the monthly budget for parts. So it's down to the nitty gritty with misc things.

 

Jog is still around. The lad payed the deposit. Has yet to pay in full. Only a few days left to pay or collect. Guess i'll play a game of how many chang you can fit under the seat while pulling wheelies :D.

 

As always have a good one. Take care & keep safe!

[Simple Jack]

6 hours ago, Simple Jack said:

Quick update.

 

Got the forks back together. Rims & hubs have been done. Reached the monthly budget for parts. So it's down to the nitty gritty with misc things.

 

Jog is still around. The lad payed the deposit. Has yet to pay in full. Only a few days left to pay or collect. Guess i'll play a game of how many chang you can fit under the seat while pulling wheelies :D.

 

As always have a good one. Take care & keep safe!

6x 620ml & no more ???? . And some sticky rice for Mrs. Jack ????

[Simple Jack]

Quick update II

 

 

Wen't to the coating shop today for an estimate. They wanted a ridiculous ammount. I didn't come down the Mekong on a banana boat. As i used to blast & coat back in the Uk for a living at one point.

 

So it's back to doing things the auld fashioned way. Wire brushed the worst of the rust. To be cost effective. Im using the old vinegar trick. Spray it down every few hours to keep it moist and leave it overnight. Takes time but it works. Just have to stipple out the air bubbles when laying down the kitchen roll.

 

The mummy returns. 555

[ktm jeff]

You do know there may be a queue of buyers for this bike. ????

[Simple Jack]

The last old Honda Dream & Cub project. i raffled off for the locals. For 20b/ticket. Proceeds wen't to the local kids charity.

Made a few families with no reliable transportation. Very happy ????

 

One can't politely refuse the free grub that is always offered also ????

 

Cheers ktm. Keep safe & take it easy mate.

[Simple Jack]

Day 07.

 

Stardate....meaningless,meaningless numbers.

 

Got the frame painted. Not as good of a finish as sandblasting but it's acceptable. Not that much of it is visible due to the plastics.

 

As usual with any project .Th. Mounts for the center stand were. Well wonky. Inner recessed mounts were perfect for 180dg. Humped for the further 180. Used the dremmel to get them as true as i could. Washered them up. New spring i ordered is pure b.s. Not opposed ends as per the pic on Shopee.  So will reuse the old one once the rust be gone has done it's work. As it turns out. The new spring will fit the next Suzuki Step project. Winning i guess.

 

Dug the forks out to fire on the front wheel. Only to find the "master" Mech up the road had not hammered home the bearings. So the speedo gear would not mount corretly. Was going to take the front wheel back. But it's Sunday. Dude must be religious or something. Turns out the new front hub is a little different. Knocked the bearings back out and cut the inner axel guide by 2mm.  Sorted! One would think people would think about it? Meh. Pay peanuts, you get monkeys i guess. Atleast the wheels are true.  Doubt i will ever give that guy business again.

 

The new head bearing/runners went in great! Lubed them up and fired on the forks with the front wheel.  Progress has been made. On one wheel and a prayer.  Just need to wait untill next month. To order up some new rear shocks. Will have a rolling frame. Then it's engine time.... 555

 

Will be spending most of the evening. Test fitting the new plasics & misc items that have been cleaned/sprayed.

 

Take care & keep safe all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kinnock]

Fascinating project ..... where do you manage find the parts for it?

[Simple Jack]

6 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Fascinating project ..... where do you manage find the parts for it?

Only ever made in Thailand. Lazada & shopee. For parts.

[Simple Jack]

Day 08

 

Progress?

 

 

Welcome back all! Been busy messing around with numerous things since the last post.

 

I got the fuel tank cleaned out and painted. Darn that 6% white vinegar works a treat! The ammount of <deleted> that came out of it was insane! Ditched the crappy filter that seats inside the outlet. Just enough room to fit a small in-line fuel filter. Thankfully one of the first items i ordered was a replacement fuel line. Bendy "S" shaped 8mm job.

 

Spent several days making new spaghetti. Even though i despise the chinese government. Had to order the 4/6 pin block connectors from there. Had most of the correct wire colours. Exept pink & blue. Fired on some red/white rape tape. To know whats what. Checks out with the multi meter. Guess the true test will be sending 12v & 7 amps up its butt.

 

We had one good day without rain. Managed to get 90% of the plastics painted. Fired on the front fender. Managed to source a new clutct lever. From a Vm120? Either way it fits. And can reuse the bar mount.

 

Spent far too lang cleaning up the clyinder head/barrel. Good auld 3m abrasive pads guled to a pop stick. Far too much dust was made that day.  Painted and cured in the oven awaiting the final gloss black coat.

 

Probably missed some things that have been done. Hope the crappy pics do it justice.  Thanks all for reading. ????

 

Keep safe & take care,

                                        SJ

Edited September 21, 2021 by Simple Jack
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[Simple Jack]

Quick update III

 

I was hoping to test the electrical system today. Sadly the fools from the shopee shop sent me the wrong handlebar unit. Ordered the left side (Blinkers, hi-low & horn). They sent me the right side.... Go figure. Had to drag my butt 10km to Big C to send it back Kerry.

 

Cost 57tb. Mrs. Jack sent the receipt via shopee chat. She got a load of disrespect & threats from said shop. For how the price of return. With a co signer. Was too expensive. I'm like <deleted> knoby-jock's? This is Thailand. Ordered a replacement from another shop. And made a formal complaint to shopee for refund/harassment. Along with screen shots of the convo. 

 

In conclusion. They sent me the wrong item. But it's my fault for giving them business. Ain't that a beach. ????  Either way. Water off a ducks back. Ain't the first time it's happened. Sure as hell. It won't be the last.  Doesn't mean i have to like it.

 

Take care all. Thanks for the likes ???? Have a good one!

 

 

[Simple Jack]

Hey folks,

 

Sorry for the lack of updates. Mrs Jack shot the crow after 3 years. So iv'e been busy pumpin' anything that moves under 30 for the last few weeks.

 

The bike is on two wheels at last. Just starting work on the engine.  i'll fire up some pics thisevening.

 

Take care & keep safe all.

[seedy]

I had to google that - never heard the expression before.

Your build so far is great. Nice work.

[Simple Jack]

Hey folks. Sorry once again for the delay.

 

Finally got around to working on the bike today. I got the engine fully torn down. So the next few days will be parts cleaning & getting the cases cleaned and painted.

So far iv'e only got the crank cleaned & lubed up. This thing must have been running rich as hell. Even carb/brake cleaner is having a tough time making progress.

 

Either way it's all part of the fun. Take care all & have a good one!

[Simple Jack]

Hey all.

 

Just a quick update of the engine cases. Waiting for new bearings, seals & gaskets to arrive.

 

Edited October 30, 2021 by Simple Jack

[Simple Jack]

Two updates in one day.

 

Dug out the gun wash and decided to go for it this morning.  All engine internals are clean ????

 

 

[Simple Jack]

Just a shout folks,

 

I'm having a hard time finding a new cage bearing for the clutch arm. The oil seal comes in the kit.

The bearing isn't in bad shape at all. Not as if its a costant velocity one. But i'd rather replace the whole lot if i have the choice. Anyone have any ideas?

I can always ask at the local shop on Monday.

 

Take care & take it easy all. Many thanks for the likes & comments ????

 

 

 

[seedy]

Is the bearing manufacturer and part number visible on the old one ?

If not, take ID OD and style - caged ball, caged roller, etc to any bearing shop and they can cross reference and/or find a duplicate.

If yours comes without seals, and the replacement you find comes with them, just remove with a screwdriver or a pick.

 

[Simple Jack]

23 hours ago, seedy said:

Is the bearing manufacturer and part number visible on the old one ?

If not, take ID OD and style - caged ball, caged roller, etc to any bearing shop and they can cross reference and/or find a duplicate.

If yours comes without seals, and the replacement you find comes with them, just remove with a screwdriver or a pick.

 

Sadly its really recessed in there. I'm afraid i would break it knocking it out or damage the shifter rod. I think i may just let it be. Or get it changed in the future. It's a tiny caged roller from what i can tell. Prob 6mm inner. I don't have any puller for this type of bearing. I do remember my old dt 175 back in the day having the same bearing setup.

Edited October 31, 2021 by Simple Jack
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[seedy]

One solution - take the case to a machine shop. They should be able to pull it out with the correct puller.

If it just acts as a pivot for the clutch arm, and seems OK with not too much side to side play, most likely will be OK.

Does it run in an oil bath, or is it sealed type ?

Edited October 31, 2021 by seedy

[Simple Jack]

18 hours ago, seedy said:

One solution - take the case to a machine shop. They should be able to pull it out with the correct puller.

If it just acts as a pivot for the clutch arm, and seems OK with not too much side to side play, most likely will be OK.

Does it run in an oil bath, or is it sealed type ?

I think it just relies on crankcase spash. I'm sure it's in good enough shape to reuse. ????

[seedy]

Cool.

[VocalNeal]

What about new reeds?

[Simple Jack]

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

What about new reeds?

Great question mate.

 

I looked everywhere for a more modern cage & reeds. Sadly no options apart from oem. Already fitted ???? Iv'e used V-Force reeds & blocks on the Jog & dio. They really do make a difference. I dont think it's really worth buying carbon reed material & cutting a new set.

[Simple Jack]

Quick update.

 

Still waiting for parts to arrive. Did some test fitting & cable routing

 

 

[Damrongsak]

'Tis a thing of beauty.  Nice work.  Rather interesting cylinder barrel/head shape...

[Simple Jack]

11 hours ago, Damrongsak said:

'Tis a thing of beauty.  Nice work.  Rather interesting cylinder barrel/head shape...

Yea! I think they really made an effort back in the day. It's Aluminium outer with a steel sleeve inner. They sure don't make them like they used too.

[piston broke]

 

When this restoration is finished - will it be called a "Belle End" ??

[Simple Jack]

Longer update for a change.

 

Howdy folks,

 

Today was a good day. The odd small orders have been arriving intermittently. But not the stuff i really needed to get cracking on.

I was cursing after waiting amlost three weeks. Then today the bike gods smiled. I received several packages at once.  Turns out my bhoy &

D&T express decided to bring everthing in one large run. Which i can't complain about.

 

Arrived today:

 

Front brake caliper, front brake master cylinder, ignition coil,  front brake line with the rubbers, con-rod kit, Battery, main bearing set, Gaskets & seals.

 

Cleaned up & painted the mirrors & restored the headlight previously.  Found a spare cheapo tacho & fired it on for a laugh. Spent a few hours today getting the wiring sorted out. I'm happy to report everything works as it should. I was worried about the fuel gauge as it was sitting at 50/50.  I knew the new float sensor was good. As i tested the resistance with travel. Soon as key on. It promptly moved to empty & full when holding the float up. Very happy! Progress!

 

Sadly i don't have the tools nor the experience to fit the new rod kit. So that will be a job for someone else. I think i forgot to mention that the cylinder had

infact been bored out before. 0.25. So i guess it's going to be a 0.50 bore & pistion. Max size i have found is 3.00. So plently of life left on the original.

 

Thanks again for all for the comments & advice. Next update should be the bottom end rebuild. Getting close now. Should be giving it the beans by x-mas ????

 

Take care & take it easy all.

[Simple Jack]

On 11/9/2021 at 3:10 PM, piston broke said:

 

When this restoration is finished - will it be called a "Belle End" ??

I'm sure that's what they will be calling the driver with the fart-box exhaust for sure. 555