Popular Post Walker88 Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 51 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: I hope that we are on the backside of this wave, but with testing being reduced it makes one wonder. The govt is going to goal-seek. It's clear in their statements that they are intent on creating what they want folks to believe, whether it's real or not. They will limit testing so as to limit 'new infections', and send more people home as 'cured' when they're not quite cured. Two things are likely driving this: -the constant daily protests calling for the PM to go away -economic pain even beginning to hit the hi-so 'donor' class They seem hellbent on giving 'relaxation of restrictions' a go. They will do it and hope to get lucky. They tried this once (or twice or thrice?) and then had to put restrictions back on. Third (fourth?) time's a charm. Maybe they will get lucky. One has to think it's personal interest, not the public good, driving this nascent trend toward re-opening. I do hope they get lucky, but with vaccines still quite limited and supplies coming in only slowly over the next 4 months, they are going to need a lot of luck. As in the previous re-openings, they will move in stages...from public parks 1st to last (someday in the distant future) bars. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThailandRyan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: The positivity rate for close contacts and hospital walk-ins is always high. As you say, tell me why then that they don't kick up the testing to what they can process each day at 100k tests. Afraid of the real cases they would find? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 With the Thai Authorities about to loosen lockdown restrictions, there is a bigger and potentially more devastating threat on the Horizon. There is also a plan to allow 470,000 + Migrant Workers to return to Thailand due to shortages of Labour within Industry. These Migrant Labourers have the potential to cause another Wave of Covid throughout the Country, as many will not be Vaccinated Etc. Unless the Thai Gov,t are going to offset all those Vaccines from their own people to inoculate all the workers, there is a very possible risk from these people, as once in the Country, they will be very hard to track down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: With the Thai Authorities about to loosen lockdown restrictions, there is a bigger and potentially more devastating threat on the Horizon. There is also a plan to allow 470,000 + Migrant Workers to return to Thailand due to shortages of Labour within Industry. These Migrant Labourers have the potential to cause another Wave of Covid throughout the Country, as many will not be Vaccinated Etc. Unless the Thai Gov,t are going to offset all those Vaccines from their own people to inoculate all the workers, there is a very possible risk from these people, as once in the Country, they will be very hard to track down. I believe they would usher them straight to the factories and bubble and seal them in....just my view 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Macrohistory said: The Thai government now planning to loosen restrictions is yet another utter disaster waiting to happen. Childish pipe dream to think that restrictions can safely be loosened at this point. Delusional. Declaring victory w-a-y too soon. In fact, here's what Johns Hopkins University says about what a country should do when it has a high test positivity rate (and Thailand right now has an *extremely* high test positivity rate): "A high percent positive means that more testing should probably be done — and it suggests that it is not a good time to relax restrictions aimed at reducing coronavirus transmission. Because a high percentage of positive tests suggests high coronavirus infection rates (due to high transmission in the community), a high percent positive can indicate it may be a good time to add restrictions to slow the spread of disease." https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2020/covid-19-testing-understanding-the-percent-positive Prediction: New lockdown to quell raging outbreaks will be firmly in place by 15 October. Prayut and Anutin will have to walk away with their tails between their legs. there was no lockdown - the industrial sector never stopped - factories continued normal production throughout The problem in Thailand as has been said many times on here is the limited testing, accuracy of data and the blatant lies being told every day and add to that the massive embedded corruption and greed, also the uneducated crooks running the country - rotten 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 It does look positive. Here's hoping! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Macrohistory said: The Thai government now planning to loosen restrictions is yet another utter disaster waiting to happen. Childish pipe dream to think that restrictions can safely be loosened at this point. Delusional. Declaring victory w-a-y too soon. In fact, here's what Johns Hopkins University says about what a country should do when it has a high test positivity rate (and Thailand right now has an *extremely* high test positivity rate): "A high percent positive means that more testing should probably be done — and it suggests that it is not a good time to relax restrictions aimed at reducing coronavirus transmission. Because a high percentage of positive tests suggests high coronavirus infection rates (due to high transmission in the community), a high percent positive can indicate it may be a good time to add restrictions to slow the spread of disease." https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2020/covid-19-testing-understanding-the-percent-positive Prediction: New lockdown to quell raging outbreaks will be firmly in place by 15 October. Prayut and Anutin will have to walk away with their tails between their legs. Good news about lower cases, easing lockdowns and reopening tourism is an absolute political expediency ahead of the no confidence debate targeting Prayut and Anutin for mismanaging the pandemic. The big target is an early general election in 1H21. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pravda Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: 120,000 tests in New South Wales yesterday. Population 8.2 million. 50,718 tests in Thailand yesterday. Population 70 million. No further commentary necessary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, dinsdale said: Thai government spokesperson. Professor with Knighthood, head of Oxford Vaccine Group. Reaching herd immunity is “not a possibility” with the current Delta variant, the head of the Oxford Vaccine Group has said. Giving evidence to MPs on Tuesday, Prof Sir Andrew Pollard said the fact that vaccines did not stop the spread of Covid meant reaching the threshold for overall immunity in the population was “mythical”. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical It’s becoming apparent that even in highly vaccinated countries with good vaccine brands that we will still need to learn to live with the virus. The key of course and light at the end of the tunnel is getting the vaccination rate up here. After the awefull delayed start they have been doing well daily apart from weekends. They need to do better but then that’s down to available stock. I look forward to the “official” vaccination statistics from yesterday that will be posted later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said: I believe they would usher them straight to the factories and bubble and seal them in....just my view But not all are required in the Factories. There are many required to work the Fields and other areas of need all across the Country. Dont the UNHRC and other NGO,s have any influence over these barbaric tactics of Bubble and Seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Somtamnication said: It does look positive. Here's hoping! The numbers are going the right way. Reduction in new cases, increase in recoveries, slight reduction on deaths which will hopefully improve in the coming days. Its following other data curves with Delta published (unable to post from this source I’m afraid) which mirror this pattern. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 Thailand's COVID-19 volunteers warn the 'real war is about to happen' as its medical system struggles with Delta surge As Thailand's medical system struggles under a surge of COVID-19 cases, the volunteers have been run off their feet in Bangkok's Saimai district and beyond. Having started as a small team of just five, Saimai Will Survive now has more than 100 members, who risk their own health to provide care for desperate people waiting for a hospital bed. "I think if we didn't do this, there would be more people dying every day," said the group's founder, Ekapob Laungprasert, 38. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/some-warn-delta-hit-thailand-real-war-is-about-to-happen/100369278 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 41 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Good news, more recoveries than new cases. Why is anyone concerned about prisoners? 1 they are humans too 2 its stupid to think the prison is a closed environment, people get released and people (workers go in and out every day) 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Still the testing is around 50K and has been for a while. Even if you add rapid tests it does seem as if things are coming down a bit. Normally im pretty conservative but i do see a ray of hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: But not all are required in the Factories. There are many required to work the Fields and other areas of need all across the Country. Dont the UNHRC and other NGO,s have any influence over these barbaric tactics of Bubble and Seal. One would hope they did..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: Thailand's COVID-19 volunteers warn the 'real war is about to happen' as its medical system struggles with Delta surge As Thailand's medical system struggles under a surge of COVID-19 cases, the volunteers have been run off their feet in Bangkok's Saimai district and beyond. Having started as a small team of just five, Saimai Will Survive now has more than 100 members, who risk their own health to provide care for desperate people waiting for a hospital bed. "I think if we didn't do this, there would be more people dying every day," said the group's founder, Ekapob Laungprasert, 38. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-24/some-warn-delta-hit-thailand-real-war-is-about-to-happen/100369278 They are doing ATK tests. Do the positive numbers see the light of day? Quite obviously the 7000 from the other day even allowing for false positives of 20% which would leave 5000 have been buried. There has been enough time to PCR test these positives. These were found in one day and sould be added in a single days figures. If they are being added then it must be in small clumps so as to not disrupt this magnificent downturn just in time to show how fantastic Prayut and his lap dogs are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, robblok said: 1 they are humans too 2 its stupid to think the prison is a closed environment, people get released and people (workers go in and out every day) Cannot see prisons worldwide shown to be a exceptional covid problem. It’s another bubble n seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 You won't get 'return to normal' immunity until 75-85% of adults have been double jabbed. Then it may start to resemble a bad flu year. But then you will need boosters because latest evidence suggests even the Pfzizer vaccine loses its potency quickly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 34 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: As you say, tell me why then that they don't kick up the testing to what they can process each day at 100k tests. Afraid of the real cases they would find? There isn’t enough testing ™️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neeranam Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, robblok said: 1 they are humans too 2 its stupid to think the prison is a closed environment, people get released and people (workers go in and out every day) Right, but they chose to break the law and are mostly young people who are not at risk. They are obviously all going to get it, they knew about the prison's accommodation before they committed the crime. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Right, but they chose to break the law and are mostly young people who are not at risk. They are obviously all going to get it, they knew about the prison's accommodation before they committed the crime. Sure that is true though not all in prison are guilty a lot are also waiting trial as they cant pay for their bail money. Plus do you think extra punishment in the form of covid is mandatory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There isn’t enough testing ™️ What do you imagine the situation re numbers/outcomes would be if testing was increased earlier.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtraveler Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: Good news, more recoveries than new cases. Why is anyone concerned about prisoners? 1- Because those that work with the prisoners return to society when they're done working, and can spread Covid if they contract it from a prisoner. 2- Because, maybe, they're human beings???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, robblok said: Sure that is true though not all in prison are guilty a lot are also waiting trial as they cant pay for their bail money. Plus do you think extra punishment in the form of covid is mandatory. I am not uncompassionate to prisoners. You missed my point. There are many things in prison that are not nice; Covid is not one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scrotobike Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 The numbers are going down - same here is Sisaket see below If the numbers keep falling then the general will remove the restrictions - for better or for worst as the country will suffer economic damage otherwise. My opinion is the virus is still rampant - but I have no evidence of this to share - so for now I will keep my own personal family "lock down" The data is from https://twitter.com/NBTWORLDNews/status/1429697935957127173/photo/1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Why Me Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 I don't understand these snide remark about not enough testing. No country tests 100%. Sure the actual number is 17165 x X where X is bigger than 1. Which means yesterday it was 17,491 x X and the day before 19014 x X. Since the testing rate is the same we can assume the error factor X is about the same each day. Which means the point remains we seem to have peaked. So leave be with the snark and break out the party clothes. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Olmate said: What do you imagine the situation re numbers/outcomes would be if testing was increased earlier.? Depends on “earlier”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Why Me said: I don't understand these snide remark about not enough testing. No country tests 100%. Sure the actual number is 17165 x X where X is bigger than 1. Which means yesterday it was 17,491 x X and the day before 19014 x X. Since the testing rate is the same we can assume the error factor X is about the same each day. Which means the point remains we seem to have peaked. So leave be with the snark and break out the party clothes. The positivity rate tells a different story. It is the major metric for defining the spread in the country Edited August 24, 2021 by Bkk Brian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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