Killer cops’ case sheds light on rampant police abuse of suspects, reform unlikely – HRW

[snoop1130]

 

Thanks to social media and a whistle blower, who leaked the chilling video of a group of police officers torturing a drug suspect to death, has triggered yet another public outcry against the authorities and a media storm over this blatantly horrendous act and the denial of the suspect’s right to prove his innocence in the justice system, or even to say goodbye to his loved ones.

 

The leaked video, which shows the 24-year-old victim being suffocated with plastic bags, the key suspect’s connections to celebrities and his unusual wealth, which would take him hundreds of years to acquire on a police salary, have all shed light on police brutality in Thailand and the need for reform.

 

In an interview, televised live on Thai PBS World on Friday, Mr. Sunai Phasuk, a senior researcher on Thailand at Human Rights Watch (HRW), said police torture of drug suspects in custody is “very common”.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/killer-cops-case-sheds-light-on-rampant-police-abuse-of-suspects-reform-unlikely-hrw/

 

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[RotBenz8888]

4 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

which would take him hundreds of years to acquire

But it took less than 100 scams. 

[Thaiwrath]

“Let’s not forget that, as the prime minister of Thailand, General Prayut is directly in charge of the Royal Thai Police. Seven years have passed, he has done nothing. Do you think he’s going to do it now? No!” he added.

 

Sums the man up perfectly !

Pathetic.

Edited August 27, 2021 by Thaiwrath

[darksidedog]

The whole thing sums the Thai cops up very neatly actually. Thieves, bullies, murderers, extortionists and liars who only seek to "serve and protect" their own interests.

It has been this way as long as I can recall, and I have never seen any real effort to change the status quo. You can pretty much guarantee this scumbag will not be convicted of anything and such awful behaviour will continue.

[Bluespunk]

16 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

the key suspect’s connections to celebrities and his unusual wealth, which would take him hundreds of years to acquire on a police salary, have all shed light on police brutality in Thailand

The light has been shone on police brutality for a long time. . 

 

This like all previous incidents that have been exposed may lead to the downfall of one player, but that is all it will do. 
 

There are plenty waiting to take his place and this will not change anything, the fact is that the bib are rotten and corrupt to the core

Edited August 27, 2021 by Bluespunk

[Dmaxdan]

30 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

In an interview, televised live on Thai PBS World on Friday, Mr. Sunai Phasuk, a senior researcher on Thailand at Human Rights Watch (HRW), said police torture of drug suspects in custody is “very common”

Only drug suspects?

Edited August 27, 2021 by Dmaxdan

[tonray]

39 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

Only drug suspects?

They're more profitable in the long run

[metisdead]

An off topic post has been removed. 

[sammieuk1]

From dead friends to dead suspects the swamp is as deep as the Mariana trench here ????

[Enzian]

The statement that the PM is "directly in charge of the RTP" is not technically or functionally true, to my understanding of the structure. The military and the RTP in the history of the country have always been separate and competing institutions. Of course Prayut is in a sense now government and not military, but that doesn't change anything. And of course he has influence, but then to do anything he would have to start thinking outside the cultural box, which doesn't seem his strong point.

[Destiny1990]

Shooting rubber bullets from just few meters distance on random groups of motorcycle drivers is that legal here?

[klauskunkel]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

the need for reform

Sure, there is a need, but not for reform. They need to be purged. And the Military, and Education too.

But will it happen beyond the usual lip service and grandstanding?

No government I have observed over the years has ever shown any real intention in reining in these institutions. Either they can't do it, are too cowardly, or they (the institutions) perform exactly as intended by design. I think it's a mix. 

And if there is ever a PM brave enough to really tackle these problems, then he better have his very own private security detail unaffiliated with police/military.

 

[Nip]

13 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

Sure, there is a need, but not for reform. They need to be purged. And the Military, and Education too.

But will it happen beyond the usual lip service and grandstanding?

No government I have observed over the years has ever shown any real intention in reining in these institutions. Either they can't do it, are too cowardly, or they (the institutions) perform exactly as intended by design. I think it's a mix. 

And if there is ever a PM brave enough to really tackle these problems, then he better have his very own private security detail unaffiliated with police/military.

 

The main problem is almost every government department is controlled by the RTP. So you ask the NACC or PACC to investigate. They are controlled by the RTP. So you involve the Ministry of Justice and Rights and Liberties and yes they too are headed by the RTP. So the Anti Money Laundering Office will sort it. Eh no its also run by .... all together now the RTP. My guess now they are deciding how best to deal with this. Accidental death? Suicide? Death from a mystery illness? He could escape and follow the same Ratline as Yingluk? In police terms this slug is way down the line and you can be sure there are at least 10 more above him who gave taken their cut of his criminality. The way the sword of silence works is that everybody gets a slice of the pie to assure their silence. He got caught so he's more dead than alive at the moment. 

[4MyEgo]

Come on guys, we know it's just another day in the LOS, wai, reinstatement to a lessor position because of how much of a great cop he was in the force and how he "saved" thousands of kids from these drug dealers.

 

He didn't mean to kill the drug dealer, just scare him while trying to extract information, and just because he forgot how long a person could breath for with plastic bags over his head shouldn't make him a bad person,  he killed the drug dealer, and because he tried to cover the murder with a death certificate showing the death as a different cause and he ran away because he panicked and was inexperienced, shouldn't make him a bad person, we are all humans and he had a very stressful job and we should accept that mistakes happen, suffice to say if he had killed more of them, think how much safer Thailand would be.

 

He deserved to live in such a mansion and drive 29 luxury cars so that he can destress, 10,000 baht fine and court costs should do it.

 

His demotion to a police teaching instructor on how to treat suspected drug dealers with plastic bags will send a clear message to drug dealers into the future thus, making Thailand a safer place to live for our kids.

[BoganInParasite]

9 hours ago, Enzian said:

The statement that the PM is "directly in charge of the RTP" is not technically or functionally true, to my understanding of the structure. The military and the RTP in the history of the country have always been separate and competing institutions. Of course Prayut is in a sense now government and not military, but that doesn't change anything. And of course he has influence, but then to do anything he would have to start thinking outside the cultural box, which doesn't seem his strong point.

The head of the police reports directly to Prayut who is the minister responsible in addition to being the PM. I think he made this change after the election.

[ttrd]

14 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

But it took less than 100 scams. 

.... amazing Thailand, with so much plastic waste in the ocean and everywhere else in LOS they should have used paper bags - at least to show a fraction of environment care in the absence of human respect - but no, not that either ...  

 

R.I.P.

[TheFishman1]

Maybe this will end like the red bull kid He will get out On  Bail And just disappear. TIT

[mikosan]

I always wondered how they managed to get confessions out of just about every suspect, in no time at all.  How I know for sure, whereas before I just surmised.

 

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The leaked video, which shows the 24-year-old victim being suffocated with plastic bags, the key suspect’s connections to celebrities and his unusual wealth, which would take him hundreds of years to acquire on a police salary, have all shed light on police brutality in Thailand and the need for reform.

The RTP are in control of every avenue of corruption, bars, clubs, karaoke clubs, massage parlours, prostitution, drugs they have a finger in all the pies.

Ohhh apologies I forgot gambling... add that too.

Edited August 28, 2021 by hotchilli

[herfiehandbag]

9 hours ago, Enzian said:

The statement that the PM is "directly in charge of the RTP" is not technically or functionally true, to my understanding of the structure. The military and the RTP in the history of the country have always been separate and competing institutions. Of course Prayut is in a sense now government and not military, but that doesn't change anything. And of course he has influence, but then to do anything he would have to start thinking outside the cultural box, which doesn't seem his strong point.

The current government represents the epitome of corrupt practices. They stole an entire country, and have perverted virtually all it's institutions for their personal gain, and that of the small cliqué which they serve.

 

The police and military may be competing institutions, but they rely on them both to sustain them in power. The police to keep the people under control on a day to day basis, using what is effectively a form of licenced banditry which supercedes the law - unless the law can be perverted to help; and the military as the big stick, kept in reserve yet visible and ready.

 

The price for that is allowing this sort of rampant corruption.

Edited August 28, 2021 by herfiehandbag

[kwak250]

Its no surprise they got a full confession out of the 2 Burmese lads on Koh Tao.

 

[CharlieH]

Its all a game of  "snakes n ladders" here, mostly snakes.

They climb higher, they get caught, they go sideways or down the ladder and so it goes on as it has and will eternally.

 

[Nanaplaza666]

1 hour ago, Nip said:

The main problem is almost every government department is controlled by the RTP. So you ask the NACC or PACC to investigate. They are controlled by the RTP. So you involve the Ministry of Justice and Rights and Liberties and yes they too are headed by the RTP. So the Anti Money Laundering Office will sort it. Eh no its also run by .... all together now the RTP. My guess now they are deciding how best to deal with this. Accidental death? Suicide? Death from a mystery illness? He could escape and follow the same Ratline as Yingluk? In police terms this slug is way down the line and you can be sure there are at least 10 more above him who gave taken their cut of his criminality. The way the sword of silence works is that everybody gets a slice of the pie to assure their silence. He got caught so he's more dead than alive at the moment. 

Must be a big pie with at least 10 people above him and his piece being that big already . We can't even imagine how much money is going around in these scemes . 

[mikebell]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Mr. Sunai Phasuk, a senior researcher on Thailand at Human Rights Watch (HRW), said police torture of drug suspects in custody is “very common”.

He's gonna' get sued by RTP or beaten up or disappeared.

[thailand49]

The so call Government is in name only!  they stand together for photo ops just for a show!  Bangkok is like a country in itself outside of it when the cameras are all gone every province, every local district they just do as they please the reason nothing gets done nationally. If everyone depended on the distribution nationally they would never get ahead.  ???? 

 

Now that the spot light is on everyone they suggest looking into the finance of everyone when I heard that I couldn't stop laughing that would really open more than one can of worms?

[pokerface1]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Come on guys, we know it's just another day in the LOS, wai, reinstatement to a lessor position because of how much of a great cop he was in the force and how he "saved" thousands of kids from these drug dealers.

 

He didn't mean to kill the drug dealer, just scare him while trying to extract information, and just because he forgot how long a person could breath for with plastic bags over his head shouldn't make him a bad person,  he killed the drug dealer, and because he tried to cover the murder with a death certificate showing the death as a different cause and he ran away because he panicked and was inexperienced, shouldn't make him a bad person, we are all humans and he had a very stressful job and we should accept that mistakes happen, suffice to say if he had killed more of them, think how much safer Thailand would be.

 

He deserved to live in such a mansion and drive 29 luxury cars so that he can destress, 10,000 baht fine and court costs should do it.

 

His demotion to a police teaching instructor on how to treat suspected drug dealers with plastic bags will send a clear message to drug dealers into the future thus, making Thailand a safer place to live for our kids.

I think they got the information out of the guy just using one plastic bag. so now that they know where the money is hidden they threw on another 5 bags to finish him off. After all 6 bags is defiantly an over kill.

[dutchman]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

Come on guys, we know it's just another day in the LOS, wai, reinstatement to a lessor position because of how much of a great cop he was in the force and how he "saved" thousands of kids from these drug dealers.

 

He didn't mean to kill the drug dealer, just scare him while trying to extract information, and just because he forgot how long a person could breath for with plastic bags over his head shouldn't make him a bad person,  he killed the drug dealer, and because he tried to cover the murder with a death certificate showing the death as a different cause and he ran away because he panicked and was inexperienced, shouldn't make him a bad person, we are all humans and he had a very stressful job and we should accept that mistakes happen, suffice to say if he had killed more of them, think how much safer Thailand would be.

 

He deserved to live in such a mansion and drive 29 luxury cars so that he can destress, 10,000 baht fine and court costs should do it.

 

His demotion to a police teaching instructor on how to treat suspected drug dealers with plastic bags will send a clear message to drug dealers into the future thus, making Thailand a safer place to live for our kids.

That is exactly what may come true, the big cover up is in the design department

 

[shackleton]

I don't think there are many people here in Thailand who are not aware of the corruption in the Police force 

This has been going on for many  years and trying to get rid of it will be impossible in the short term and no doubt the long term 

It's embedded to deep from the bottom to the top 

[UKJASE]

i always wondered why so many arrested people here would then implicate their accomplices into the crime too

i guess a lot of these confessions are achieved under duress 

[ben2talk]

The biggest reform would be to outlaw the use of mobile phones - already there are signs everywhere banning the taking of photos/video with mobiles. This is the problem here - exposing the guilty isn't allowed when they are good people, it makes them uncomfortable!