"Honest" Anutin defends himself and vax rollout especially Sinovac and relationship with Chinese

[Cake Monster]

1 hour ago, juehoe said:

The recommended time between the 2 jabs for AstraZeneca is 8 to 12 weeks. This is more than the 4 weeks for the mRNA vaccines. The antibody response is higher when waiting 12 weeks instead of 8 weeks, but you have less protection between the shots. So what you want?

I got my first AZ in July and have the wait until October, too.

But anyway, I won’t change my habits for the next 6 months.

And meanwhile, many that have had Pfizer in Pattaya have to only wait 3 weeks for the second dose.

My missus included

Gotta get those fully Inoculated numbers up to get off the Red List and prevent being placed on more.

[Live Long and Prosper]

1 hour ago, Khun Yogi said:

Limited clinical trials have proven that Sinovac is not very effective against the Delta variant of Covid. So why is he still buying it? Also l believe it is one of the most expensive vaccines on the market being 2-3 times more expensive than other similar worldwide made products. Again l ask, why is he still buying it.???? Also it has been in the news that people who got two Sinovac shots will now need a third one. Why?????? Total incompetence.

Because certain medical conditions react badly to all of the vaccines, save for Sinovac. Whist not ideal its the best for those people.

[jacko45k]

2 minutes ago, Live Long and Prosper said:

Because certain medical conditions react badly to all of the vaccines, save for Sinovac. Whist not ideal its the best for those people.

Back that up please. Are you also saying Thailand has  a majority of people with these 'certain (undefined) medical conditions'?

Edited September 1, 2021 by jacko45k

[Live Long and Prosper]

Just now, jacko45k said:

Back that up please.

My own personal experience with a terminal desease

 

[jacko45k]

4 minutes ago, Live Long and Prosper said:

My own personal experience with a terminal desease

 

I think we discuss Thailand buying millions and millions of doses of Sinovac and in reality you cite an individual case. 

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Neilly said:

I'll bet even money his lips were moving when he said that ????

Milli Vanilli style....

[tomacht8]

He said he had worked tirelessly with the Chinese in Thailand and with the government in China in a spirit of good relationship and good cooperation.

 

555

It was definitely worth it. The only question is for whom?

 

[edwinchester]

From the OP,

"We are not short of vaccine", he proclaimed. "We will have 140 million doses by the end of the year which divided by two is 70 million people. That's going to be enough to inoculate 90% of the population."

 

He should know better than spouting such claptrap knowing full well that Sinovac will be requiring a third booster shot for each recipient.

 

[trainman34014]

3 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

The Health Minister does not know his job.  Explain to me why we must wait 12 weeks to get our second shot of AstraZeneca instead of 4 to 8 weeks.  The longer we wait the better the chance we die from the virus.  He does not care.  Get rid of him.

My original date for 2nd shot was 16 weeks; now reduced to 12 weeks !

[trainman34014]

This arrogant upstart and the rest of the Gangsters currently in Government House have no idea of the meaning of 'Honest' !

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

In closing remarks he suggested that his own performance, just like his PM, had been based on transparency and fairness and justice. 

Worth reading the whole story for the laugh at the end !

[grego49]

Pity Raymond Reddington was not here to sort this clown out,,,,,

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

I think we discuss Thailand buying millions and millions of doses of Sinovac and in reality you cite an individual case. 

Plenty of individual stories for people with vestibular problems and Pfizer and Moderna here:

 https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/

[arick]

Yes he is dirty to the bone.  Anyways we are  all going to get corvid one way or another. So get vaccinated so you don't end up in ICU. Check the new news from the Oxford Prof. Vaccine Team.  

[LivinLOS]

2 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

I  would like to know what Thai's are saying about Prayuth's and Anutin's political speeches ....

As is typical of a clan based society where you are culturally ingrained to always forgive your clans transgressions.. Salim / Yellow / royalist can see no wrong doing, or at least only justifiable actions needed to maintain decency and control.. And Saam geeb / Red / Youth can see no justifiable actions or rights at all.. 

Its the same cases of blind loyalty and tribalism that seems to constantly come up in societies that function and clan based structures and mentalities.  There seems very little introspection, or changes of heart. Theres only power and who wields it. 

[LivinLOS]

4 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

The Health Minister does not know his job.  Explain to me why we must wait 12 weeks to get our second shot of AstraZeneca instead of 4 to 8 weeks.  The longer we wait the better the chance we die from the virus.  He does not care.  Get rid of him.

3 weeks after a 1st shot of sinovac.. 

[Jeffr2]

Ask a Thai what his nickname is. It's pretty bad.

[Pedrogaz]

What an utter toe rag...beneath contempt.

[wombat]

WHO do that Mu do that you do so well

[Dogmatix]

PT deliberately did a feeble job in the accusation of graft in the vaccine procurement which everybody knows was the case. Their only point seemed to be that the purchases were B2 billion less than the budget which the government said was padded in case of price hikes, forex changes or increased shipping costs.  There was no hard or even soft evidence - pathetic.  If they were worried about the budget for vaccines why did their MPs support the government and vote for Prayut to get a B16 billion special budget to use at his personal discretion without parliamentary scrutiny?  It is all BS with Thaksin, PT and the red shirts actually cosying up to the government for personal gains while pretending to do their job as the opposition for show.  

[Rimmer]

Off topic removed

[lesmac]

4 hours ago, Khun Yogi said:

Limited clinical trials have proven that Sinovac is not very effective against the Delta variant of Covid. So why is he still buying it? Also l believe it is one of the most expensive vaccines on the market being 2-3 times more expensive than other similar worldwide made products. Again l ask, why is he still buying it.???? Also it has been in the news that people who got two Sinovac shots will now need a third one. Why?????? Total incompetence.

Budget for more expensive jabs, buy cheap useless <deleted> and line pockets

[ourmanflint]

"Honest Anutin" is not going to stick.... 

[jobas69]

About as honest as a nine dollar bill 

[newnative]

   Says he worked tirelessly with the Chinese.  No mention of working tirelessly with anyone else to get vaccines other than the Chinese ones just as quickly.  September and Moderna still not here.  J&J still not here.  

[SuwadeeS]

2 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

He said he had worked tirelessly with the Chinese in Thailand and with the government in China in a spirit of good relationship and good cooperation.

 

555

It was definitely worth it. The only question is for whom?

 

Alsolutely right. The powerfull have all chinese roots. They will a piece of the cake.

Thais are the working ants to fill the chinese pockets.

[Random ACT]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He pressed on about the cost of Sinovac saying that criticism that it was expensive was unfounded. He said only the first lot was $17 a dose.

 

He propduced a graphic showing that the price dropped and dropped until it was only $8.90.

Why that difference and bow did you let it happen,,,! That's enough to show incompetance in sourcing the vaccine..

[mr_lob]

He should have a regular slot at the Palladium, it would be a sell-out

[AhFarangJa]

"Honest" Anutin

Now there is an oxymoron !!!

[Xonax]

4 hours ago, phetphet said:

What does he mean? I thought Thailand, through Siam Bioscience had agreed the the rights to produce AZ. Is there a time limit on that? Seems a very short one if cannot produce next year.

Maybe AstraZeneca is not happy with, how many doses they get out of the provided material. Could they perhaps be sold at the back door?