Anutin and Sinovac supported: MoPH united in backing "mix and match" vax strategy

[webfact]

Picture: Daily News

 

The big guns were out in support of beleaguered health minister Anutin Charnvirakul yesterday at the Thai parliament as they sought to allay public fears over Thailand's mix and match vaccine strategy.

 

Presenting a united front were Bhumjai Thai MP - Anutin's party - Suphachai Jaisamut, Dr Kiatphoom Wongjarit of the Ministry of Public Health - that Anutin fronts - Dr Suphakij Sirilak Sirilak of the Department of Medical Science and familiar face Dr Opas Kankawinpong of the Department of Disease Control. 

 

Suphakij led the defence of Sinovac - a Chinese produced vaccine - just a day after Anutin had addressed the Thai parliament in the no confidence debate about his role in the pandemic and the part played by procurement and use of Sinovac.

 

Suphakij said that Thailand had a whole bank of evidence - about to be printed - that showed the mix and match strategy was good, reported Daily News. 

 

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research before doing something that would help the people.

 

He claimed that when the research is published - and Thailand tells the world - it will show that one shot of Sinovac and one of Astra Zeneca is the same as having two shots of Astra Zeneca.

 

He said it was right and proper to use what vaccines were available rather than wait until others arrived. 

 

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[Cake Monster]

10 minutes ago, webfact said:

Suphakij said that Thailand had a whole bank of evidence - about to be printed - that showed the mix and match strategy was good, reported Daily News. 

 

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research before doing something that would help the people.

 

He claimed that when the research is published - and Thailand tells the world - it will show that one shot of Sinovac and one of Astra Zeneca is the same as having two shots of Astra Zeneca.

I for one cannot wait to read this ground breaking Report

[Boomer6969]

6 minutes ago, webfact said:

He claimed that when the research is published - and Thailand tells the world - it will show that one shot of Sinovac and one of Astra Zeneca is the same as having two shots of Astra Zeneca.

 

He said it was right and proper to use what vaccines were available rather than wait until others arrived. 

No, I won't be convinced "when the research is published", I'll wait until it gets reviewed by reputable western scientists, not some "cronies".

 

It ist likely though that Sinovac/AZ is better than nothing. But this appalling situation where untested combinations of vaccines have to be rolled out to the population is the failure of a government, who a year ago sat on their fat asses and devised a totally inadequate and corrupt vaccine  procurement strategy.

[JoePai]

Even NK said NO to the vaccine :  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58408913

[RotBenz8888]

20 minutes ago, webfact said:

Thailand's mix and match vaccine strategy.

Mix and gamble is more appropriate. 

[MrJ2U]

18 minutes ago, webfact said:

Presenting a united front were Bhumjai Thai MP - Anutin's party - Suphachai Jaisamut, Dr Kiatphoom Wongjarit of the Ministry of Public Health - that Anutin fronts - Dr Suphakij Sirilak Sirilak of the Department of Medical Science and familiar face Dr Opas Kankawinpong of the Department of Disease Control. 

 

These are the people that the Thais Don't trust.

 

They think people are idiots?

 

They look like fools with there arms at their sides like there in the army.

 

Clowns of a feather flock together.

[Bkk Brian]

21 minutes ago, webfact said:

He claimed that when the research is published - and Thailand tells the world - it will show that one shot of Sinovac and one of Astra Zeneca is the same as having two shots of Astra Zeneca.

They've got it on a post it note now, its then to be sent to a committee for final draft before being released as an expanded and bloated set of numbers and percentages, tagged with some pretty graphs, no peer review required.

[smedly]

until I see verified scientific evidence and this combo approved for use by the WHO then they are all part of the deception and basically liars

[grandpa]

29 minutes ago, webfact said:

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research before doing something that would help the people.

So trials are totally unnecessary!  Research is a waste of time!  All those eminent scientists researching and trialing cures for cancer are stupidly wasting their time. Just come up with any old mix of cancer drugs and try it out on millions of cancer sufferers.  It would be "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research!  Why do the Thai population put up with this dangerous nonsense.

[Scrotobike]

And now lets look at the MUPPETS show.

Amazing Thailand - mix and match Hub

[grandpa]

45 minutes ago, webfact said:

He claimed that when the research is published - and Thailand tells the world - it will show that one shot of Sinovac and one of Astra Zeneca is the same as having two shots of Astra Zeneca.

But about 4 times more expensive! 

 https://www.statista.com/statistics/1221576/covid-vaccines-sales-forecast-mean-price-share-growth/

[mahtin]

A mix-and-match approach to Covid vaccines - using different brands for first and second doses - appears to give good protection against the pandemic virus, a UK study has found.

The Com-Cov trial looked at the efficacy of either two doses of Pfizer, two of AstraZeneca, or one of them followed by the other.

All combinations worked well, priming the immune system.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, mahtin said:

A mix-and-match approach to Covid vaccines - using different brands for first and second doses - appears to give good protection against the pandemic virus, a UK study has found.

The Com-Cov trial looked at the efficacy of either two doses of Pfizer, two of AstraZeneca, or one of them followed by the other.

All combinations worked well, priming the immune system.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

 

 

Thailand is mixing Sinovac, the least effective covid vaccine, an inactivated whole virus vaccine with AZ a viral vector-based vaccination, totally different to Pfizer mRNA vaccine.

[Gottfrid]

Thailands mix and match! That´s what is worrying! Seems like no other countries are rolling out such plan. Maybe there is a reason for that?

[mahtin]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thailand is mixing Sinovac, the least effective covid vaccine, an inactivated whole virus vaccine with AZ a viral vector-based vaccination, totally different to Pfizer mRNA vaccine.

Yes, and I am trying to get a Pfizer for my second jab rather than another AZ like the first.

Still waiting for the doctor to come back to me on that one.

[Scrotobike]

32 minutes ago, mahtin said:

A mix-and-match approach to Covid vaccines - using different brands for first and second doses - appears to give good protection against the pandemic virus, a UK study has found.

The Com-Cov trial looked at the efficacy of either two doses of Pfizer, two of AstraZeneca, or one of them followed by the other.

All combinations worked well, priming the immune system.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57636356

 

 

But I am sure this does not include the useless CCP stuff

[MrJ2U]

58 minutes ago, smedly said:

until I see verified scientific evidence and this combo approved for use by the WHO then they are all part of the deception and basically liars

Just saying it doesn't make it true.

 

I wouldn't trust there tests.  Definitely be rigged in there favor.

 

A peer review by a private lab, preferably away from Thailand would be the only saving grace for this mix and match garbage.

 

Just get the right vaccines and stop placating one family for the sake of an entire beleaguered nation.

 

Its the ethical thing to do.

[mahtin]

1 hour ago, Scrotobike said:

But I am sure this does not include the useless CCP stuff

The Oxford Vaccine Group’s Com-Cov vaccine trial is studying the use of different combinations of approved COVID-19 vaccines for the first and second immunisation doses.

This study is being led by the Oxford Vaccine Group (Chief Investigator Associate Professor Matthew Snape), and delivered by a network of trial sites across the UK. The study is funded by the Vaccine Task Force and the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR).

 

Sorry, all about mix and match, but not Sinovac. More UK than Thailand, apologies for straying half off topic.

[Will B Good]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research before doing something that would help the people.

He said that? Seriously?

 

Surely something has been lost in translation......no one is that stupid.

[suestra29]

 

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research before doing something that would help the people.
if that is the case mr brainless wonder, why was there such a delay in approving Moderna, Pfizer? Why did Pinocchio say he wouldn’t use his people as guinea pigs on mix and match. 
 

You two are insanely stupid. 

 

 

 

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Presenting a united front were Bhumjai Thai MP - Anutin's party - Suphachai Jaisamut, Dr Kiatphoom Wongjarit of the Ministry of Public Health - that Anutin fronts - Dr Suphakij Sirilak Sirilak of the Department of Medical Science and familiar face Dr Opas Kankawinpong of the Department of Disease Control. 

Roll-out the big guns to show solidarity.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid" to wait for the findings of research before doing something that would help the people.

And even more foolish to have got it wrong.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

He claimed that when the research is published - and Thailand tells the world

Thailand leading the way in mix-n-match, telling the world, we did it that way because it's all we had at the time, hopefully it'll work out in the long run. 

[mtls2005]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Suphakij said that Thailand had a whole bank of evidence - about to be printed - that showed the mix and match strategy was good,

 

Sounds like some lame excuse a student comes up with when they're late with their assignment.

 

But of course they've got the corruption part nailed.

 

The amount of money skimmed on the sinovac deals has created generational wealth for a few individuals, and left millions of Thais with a <deleted> vaccine.

 

 

 

 

[Isaan sailor]

How about a comparison of 2 shots AZ, to mix ‘n match SinoVac and AZ?

Better yet, compare one shot AZ to two shots SinoVac.

You can mix water with your beer.  It still tastes like beer, but not nearly as satisfying.

[mark131v]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

In combative mood he said it was "very stupid"

Well he should know he seems to be an expert on 'very stupid'  and demonstrates his stupidity on a daily basis...

[lesmac]

His lips are moving again, I smell BS

[Rinrada]

No thanks Krup...