SuwadeeS Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Hold on. All these studies about effectivity. These are in theory under labratory condition. 13.8% is max. effectivity theory under labratory conditions. In real life, you can deduct approx. 30 %. then you have a real number. That is 9,66% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phetphet Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, jacko45k said: Agreed, I don't recall there was much vaccination going on at all way back then. Vaccination in UK started around Dec 2020. I believe that was the first person Worldwide to receive the Pfizer. Exactly. The early outbreak here was brought under control by swiftly locking everything down and preventing travel. It was when they started lifting restrictions and letting people travel home, and hi so's started to party and ignore the governments advice to not socialise that the outbreak really "broke out". New Year and Songkran. People heading back to their families. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dialemco said: Presume Chinese are supplying their vaccine for FREE which for a short term fix better than nothing You would wrong. While some of the ~ 12.5 mm doses have been "donated" (maybe ~ 2 mm? I've lost track), the rest have fetched top baht, ~ 660 baht/dose (extra cream layer incl.). An expensive short-term fix, although calling it a fix is a massive exaggeration. More or less a useless fix. Edited September 6, 2021 by mtls2005 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 What a coincidence, the Bangkok chinese embassy issue a statement and within days the Thai grovellers are putting out the same clap trap, I can see the puppet strings from here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Sure it does. Why do you need a booster after 6 months. https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2021/07/27/antibodies-from-sinovac-shot-fade-after-about-6-months-study.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Robert Tyrrell said: Hello , well that’s very funny Thailand and China are concerned about corruption and transparency !!?? 5555 ???? Lol ???? , Thats like the Devil saying he’s a good person !! Sinovac , Sinopharm and Sputnik v are low quality covid vaccines and because the failing Thai Government’s Covid Policies and Vaccination Policies we now stand in a very long global waiting line for good vaccines like Moderna and Pfizer. As a person Immune compromised and a a Type-2 Diabetic why would I want to get injected with low quality vaccines like Sinovac , Sinopharm or Sputnik v that all have under 52% Efficacy !!?? Not !! Happening with me Thailand !! oh !! P.S. , You talk about transparency and honesty. Please , How about for example honesty and transparency about the 2 million + Pfizer vaccines donated by America ???????? To Thailand that 20% of the vaccines were agreed upon sharing with Expats !!?? That would be a start down the path of honesty and transparency !! ???? safe and Healthy Wishes to ALL !! Foreigners in Bangkok and Pattaya have been getting pfyzer for a month already, many are getting second shots this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: You would worng. While some of the ~ 12.5 mm doses have been "donated" (maybe ~ 2 mm? I've lost track), the rest have fetched top baht, ~ 660 baht/dose (extra cream layer incl.). An expensive short-term fix, although calling it a fix is a massive exaggeration. More or less a useless fix. The Chinese did provide 500,000 doses for free. But they stipulated that their citizens resident in Thailand go to the head of the line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Nobody's yet mentioned that with Sinovac the antibody count drops to 30% after 40 days - as reported already by Thai medical staff who have had the double-jabs early on, and then become infected . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Robert Tyrrell said: Hello , well that’s very funny Thailand and China are concerned about corruption and transparency !!?? 5555 ???? Lol ???? , Thats like the Devil saying he’s a good person !! Sinovac , Sinopharm and Sputnik v are low quality covid vaccines and because the failing Thai Government’s Covid Policies and Vaccination Policies we now stand in a very long global waiting line for good vaccines like Moderna and Pfizer. As a person Immune compromised and a a Type-2 Diabetic why would I want to get injected with low quality vaccines like Sinovac , Sinopharm or Sputnik v that all have under 52% Efficacy !!?? Not !! Happening with me Thailand !! oh !! P.S. , You talk about transparency and honesty. Please , How about for example honesty and transparency about the 2 million + Pfizer vaccines donated by America ???????? To Thailand that 20% of the vaccines were agreed upon sharing with Expats !!?? That would be a start down the path of honesty and transparency !! ???? safe and Healthy Wishes to ALL !! So much nonsense in so little space. Let's start with Sputnik? From what garbage pile of a website did you come up with the assertion that Sputnik has less than 52% efficacy? Anyway, it's not even on offer in Thailand. I imagine you're referring to sinovac and that figure was the result of one study that showed it had 51 percent effectiveness in stopping symptomatic infections. And all other large real world studies showed it had much greater effectiveness. And even in that 51% study, it did much better in stopping hospitalizations and infections. As for that 20% figure...that was claimed by 1 Thai official. Interesting to see that you would take his word for it even though the American embassy denied that was the case. Your faith in Thai officialdom is touching. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oslooskar Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, konaboy said: any data on deaths after Sinovac? As I understand it, the Seychelles was not having much luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, BestB said: Foreigners in Bangkok and Pattaya have been getting pfyzer for a month already, many are getting second shots this month Its amazing how long Thailand can stretch 2.5 mil doses of Pfizer out. Hopefully they didn't dilute it to turn 2.5 mil into 5 mil. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, club said: Sure it does. Why do you need a booster after 6 months. https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2021/07/27/antibodies-from-sinovac-shot-fade-after-about-6-months-study.html The same reason Pfizer and Moderna needed booster after 8 months. Vaccines effectiveness waned and Delta is 1,000 times more transmissible. Thought this a common knowledge to most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Aylesham Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said: I thought it was proved that Sinovac was only appropriate 13.5% effective against the Delta strain..... Or is the report to please the Chinese, as they were not happy that people don't trust Sinovac... The press reported two days ago that Brazil had withdrawn Sinovac as an authorised vaccination product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Just now, Eric Loh said: The same reason Pfizer and Moderna needed booster after 8 months. Vaccines effectiveness waned and Delta is 1,000 times more transmissible. Thought this a common knowledge to most. At least Pfizer and Moderna dont wither away to NO protection after 6 months https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/study-shows-antibodies-drop-by-50-every-40-days-after-2-doses-of-sinovac This has been common knowledge also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, club said: At least Pfizer and Moderna dont wither away to NO protection after 6 months https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/study-shows-antibodies-drop-by-50-every-40-days-after-2-doses-of-sinovac This has been common knowledge also In fact, while there is a correlation between antibody levels and protection, this takes no account at all of T cell and B cell immunity. It was a lab study not a clinical study. Not a real world study. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greg71 Posted September 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, club said: Sure it does. Why do you need a booster after 6 months. https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2021/07/27/antibodies-from-sinovac-shot-fade-after-about-6-months-study.html There now prepping Isrealis for there 4th shot (pfizer) , and people think this is normal .https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/this-is-our-life-from-now-on-top-israel-doctor-warns-population-to-get-ready-for-fourth-vaccine-shot/news-story/1d09d6eb71caa387fa48f802efd011d9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Thailand has to be nice to China, otherwise the water tap on the dams will be turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 35 minutes ago, George Aylesham said: The press reported two days ago that Brazil had withdrawn Sinovac as an authorised vaccination product. Well, what was reported is that Brazil had withdrawn authorization for Sinovac that was manufactured at Chinese facilities that hadn't been properly inspected and approved. So not a withdrawal of endorsement of the vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Millcx said: you nailed that in one .. Sinovac 55555 Wouldn’t brush my teeth with it "Sinovac 55555 Wouldn’t brush my teeth with it". Of course not, you wouldn't want to end up gumsy. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 More bloody propaganda, ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I think its fair to say, that in the early Days of the Infections in Thailand, Sinovac probably did help with the Infection rate. However, since the arrival of the Delta Variant, Sinovac, with its low Efficacy rate, has become non relevant in stopping Infections. Akin to putting a BandAid on a severed Leg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cake Monster said: I think its fair to say, that in the early Days of the Infections in Thailand, Sinovac probably did help with the Infection rate. However, since the arrival of the Delta Variant, Sinovac, with its low Efficacy rate, has become non relevant in stopping Infections. Akin to putting a BandAid on a severed Leg. With no real large real world studies to back you up, ya think it's fair to make that claim? It's certainly not sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullseye66 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Khun Yogi said: It appears that anyone who had two shots of Sinovac in the last few months will now need a booster shot shortly of something like AZ or Pfizer. Even the top brands says most people will need a booster in the future.????? All part of the money making scam. 22 dollars a shot. About 5 billion people getting jabbed worldwide eventually. Why wouldn't you try and foist another shot into all those billions. Ka Ching! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyExpat57 Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I believe China dost protest too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Henryford said: Breaking news - DDC Director takes delivery of new Mercedes. no chance we all know they love Lamborghini.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBattles Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Sinovac does not work against the Delta Variant. I am told that Delta is the main virus now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmarlin Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 propaganda at least or just more bovine deification. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 1 hour ago, greg71 said: There now prepping Isrealis for there 4th shot (pfizer) , and people think this is normal .https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/global/this-is-our-life-from-now-on-top-israel-doctor-warns-population-to-get-ready-for-fourth-vaccine-shot/news-story/1d09d6eb71caa387fa48f802efd011d9 Many people I know and hear about are getting Moderna in the USA. Just to much bad news about Pfizer. ALL vaccines are not perfect but I dont like what I read about Pfizer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaoleBoy Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 Look at the Phuket Sandbox for Sinovac efficacy. The island of Thai people were vaccinated with 2 doses of Sinovac. Look at the growing outbreak there now. Most farangs on Phuket got AZ or Pfizer ... This is not Seychelles or UAE, but here in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malthebluff Posted September 6, 2021 Share Posted September 6, 2021 I saw the headline and swiped left 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now