China gets butthurt very easily. Australia says something and China is winging, US says something and China is winging but China can do whatever they like and take no responsibility for it.

 

they do nothing but steal and copy technology and then get butthurt when quality not up to par 

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4 hours ago, greenmonkey said:

Goodwill!??? Didn't these Chinese vaccines cost Thailand 3 times as much as the other vaccines? And they talk about goodwill. What a joke!

No, they don't. They do cost a lot more than the AZ vaccine. Currently, at least twice as much.Earlier as much as 5-6 times as much. Which certainly raises questions as to why Thailand initially ordered so little of the AZ vaccine.

8 hours ago, placeholder said:

(...) And keep in mind that in the case of Sinovac its vaccine was produced by a company that's located in China but it's not the Chinese govt.

That's meaningless. Private enterprises (and even billionaires) in China are at the mercy of the government (see Jack Ma, Alibaba, Tencent & Co) ...

19 minutes ago, BestB said:

they do nothing but steal and copy technology and then get butthurt when quality not up to par 

True, literally. Just go to a Chinese supermarket; pickpockets everywhere. And don't leave your apartment unattended for 5 weeks; they will empty it all out!

 

If you buy anything in/from China you'll realise how easily it breaks. But one thing they are good at: nationalism!

4 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

That's meaningless. Private enterprises (and even billionaires) in China are at the mercy of the government (see Jack Ma, Alibaba, Tencent & Co) ...

That's true but that doesn't mean that the Chinese govt created Alibaba, Tencent, etc. And it doesn't mean that the Chinese govt had a hand in the actual creation of Sinovac but they were certainly unforgivably lax in approving it before the full results of Phase 3 trials were published. Even to date, only a preliminary report on the results of those trials has been published.

A thinly veiled threat to Thailand. China bullying ASEAN members again. If it isn't the South China sea it's business and now vaccine reputation ????

Do they forget who unleashed this pandemic and all the heartache that went to it upon the world? They should be asking us for forgiveness and I for one would not forgive them.

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11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Respect must be earned, and never freely given. Same applies to goodwill. China, do something to earn some goodwill. You want credibility on the world stage? Start behaving like a responsible nation. 

 

Stop behaving in a ridiculous manner, and like that of a bully, in the South China Sea. It has been centuries since a nation insisted it's territorial waters extended a thousand miles or more, from it's border. We would refer to that as self applied egg on the face. OK?

 

When you develop a vaccine intended for world consumption, try a little harder. Thy to obtain an efficacy rate that rivals the others, and is not at the bottom of the list. It just reinforces the notion that Chinese made goods are of inferior quality. 

Stop the harvesting of organs from political prisoners. 

Many practitioners have reported that, while they were in China’s extensive network of detention centres and forced labour camps, they were tortured. Evidence indicates that Falun Gong practitioners, Uyghur Muslims, Tibetans and other prisoners have been further subject to forced live organ harvesting. 

 

https://www.healtheuropa.eu/forced-organ-harvesting-one-of-the-worst-mass-atrocities-of-this-century/97035/

 

Stop locking up those who are different from the masses, such as the Falun Gong disciples, and the Uyghur Muslims. Behaving like a civilized nation might earn you some respect. 

Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with each point. Chinese citizens needs to understand this too then they might understand why not everyone in the world loves the Chinese government as much as they do and why the world questions the Chinese government as much as they do

6 hours ago, placeholder said:

No, they don't. They do cost a lot more than the AZ vaccine. Currently, at least twice as much.Earlier as much as 5-6 times as much. Which certainly raises questions as to why Thailand initially ordered so little of the AZ vaccine.

AZ is Farang?

5 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

AZ is Farang?

Well, the plan was to produce it domestically.

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Well, the plan was to produce it domestically.

Yeah and they planed to go to moon as well

China's feeling hurt.... But, But, China destroyed most of the World economies by spreading CoVid.... 

1 hour ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Yeah and they planed to go to moon as well

Actually Thailand is Manufacturing AstraZeneca vaccine domestically. Does this mean Thais have landed on the moon as well?

17 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

From YT, give it a watch. Each cube is $1 billion USD in cash. Absolutely staggering. #1 is the ICBC with $4.3T.

 

Many wonder just how they do it, or how much of it's to be believed.

Do you have a link to that YouTube video?

35 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Do you have a link to that YouTube video?

Not sure how they feel about linking here. Look up "top 100 largest banks by total assets" by "WorldTV Studio".

The same old '' save honor'' thinking of the East...

 

It would have been a gesture of goodwill not to cover up the beginning of the pandemic.

 

Or, with all due respect, could you please eat some normal food, like chicken or beef?

 

 

 

China hurt the goodwill of the world by unleashing the virus on innocent lives everywhere.

1 hour ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

Not sure how they feel about linking here. Look up "top 100 largest banks by total assets" by "WorldTV Studio".

They adore links here:

 

 

They can keep their good will behind their iron commie curtain. It was THEM who brougth the misery to the world. Stay away, Comrade Xi and your buddies. Stalin will be forgotten one day but Xi and his brigade's Virus will live forever

6 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

Do you have a link to that YouTube video?

China is struggling under a massive amount of internal debt. Little known to the outside world. 

 

Last week, the firm, with projects underway in 22 cities, warned that it may default on debt repayments if its efforts to refinance and sell assets fall short, an announcement that rattled global debt markets. Contractors are lining up for payment, and creditors are fleeing, willing to accept less than 30 cents in the dollar from anyone game enough to buy Evergrande debt, meanwhile, tens of thousands of hopeful apartment owners are fretting that a collapse may see their deposits evaporate.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/china-property-bubble-may-be-about-to-burst-hurting-australia/100435868?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web

17 hours ago, placeholder said:

No, they don't. They do cost a lot more than the AZ vaccine. Currently, at least twice as much.Earlier as much as 5-6 times as much. Which certainly raises questions as to why Thailand initially ordered so little of the AZ vaccine.

...the point I was making was that there was no goodwill... they were not trying to help Thailand... they were not doing Thailand any favours... they just wanted to profit hugely from Thailands situation. And to talk about 'goodwill' is sickening and disgraceful.

5 minutes ago, greenmonkey said:

...the point I was making was that there was no goodwill... they were not trying to help Thailand... they were not doing Thailand any favours... they just wanted to profit hugely from Thailands situation. And to talk about 'goodwill' is sickening and disgraceful.

If your point is a good one, why invoke falsehoods to justify it? It just weakens your case.

22 minutes ago, placeholder said:

If your point is a good one, why invoke falsehoods to justify it? It just weakens your case.

You got me scratching my head on this one. I am merely offering the opinion that China did not act out of 'goodwill' but was purely motivated by profit. If you think otherwise you are entitled to that opinion.

“China says criticisms of vaccine hurt its goodwill”

OH…BOO- HOO!!!

 

It’s more a matter of China’s collective underhandedness, their sneakiness and their self-proclaimed cleverness that have hurt them. 
 

Stealing intellectual capital the world over and bullying smaller countries (and not just in Asia), unleashing covid and trying to deny it and further not giving full disclosure, their dealings with Hong Kong, Taiwan and SCS…all this is just the tip of the iceberg. 
 

I SAY, BOO-HOO CHINA!!!…don’t let those big tears fall in your porridge. 

6 hours ago, mikebell said:

China hurt the goodwill of the world by unleashing the virus on innocent lives everywhere.

China may be the country that the virus was first detected but they can’t be accountable for the malfeasance of respective government in US, Brazil and India that have record infections and deaths. Perhaps we can also blame these countries of bad policies that allow the original virus to mutate and spread round the world. 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

China is struggling under a massive amount of internal debt. Little known to the outside world. 

 

Last week, the firm, with projects underway in 22 cities, warned that it may default on debt repayments if its efforts to refinance and sell assets fall short, an announcement that rattled global debt markets. Contractors are lining up for payment, and creditors are fleeing, willing to accept less than 30 cents in the dollar from anyone game enough to buy Evergrande debt, meanwhile, tens of thousands of hopeful apartment owners are fretting that a collapse may see their deposits evaporate.

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-06/china-property-bubble-may-be-about-to-burst-hurting-australia/100435868?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web

HNA went under and $171 billion was wiped out in February this year, but it hardly registered. China works in mysterious ways.

If it had been an Act of Goodwill - they'd have 'Donated' all of it... 

Now they send their rubbish cars.

 

Everywhere publicity of this "GWM" Haval.

GWM actually produces in Rayong.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/07/alibaba-sexual-assault-case-dropped-as-china-police-say-forcible-indecency-not-a

 

"Rape no longer consider a crime in China"......and they are worried about people complaining about their vaccines.