Can we trust the Thai government to keep its word on November 1st?

[Scouse123]

Great news for some of us about the lifting of quarantine and accepting most types of vaccines to visit the UK.

 

I have business to attend to and also haven't seen my sons for two years and more. I am all geared up and ready to book my flight.

 

I will get to Kalasin and obtain the printed hospital copy of my Pfizer vaccines which I also have on my phone with the app. I will also try to get the book from the department of diseases control or whatever it is. So, hopefully there will be no ambiguity or concerns for airport staff.

 

Now my biggest hurdle is can I feel confident to go and book the flights? I have done it three  times previously and luckily direct with Qatar so I was given a refund, although had to wait a while. No worries there, great airline.

 

However, can I put my trust in the Thai government to follow through with what they have stated and book my flight, or should I hold off until nearer the 1st November and await further announcements from the Thai hierarchy before booking ?

 

I don't want to book and face quarantine or sandbox on my return because due to unforeseen reasons the Thai government has pushed it back again.

 

Any views from those of you in a similar position regardless to where your destination is?

 

 

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by Scouse123

[LoliLoso]

13 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

However, can I put my trust in the Thai government to follow through with what they have stated and book my flight, or should I hold off until nearer the 1st November and await further announcements from the Thai hierarchy before booking ?

No. Cannot trust them !

[CharlieH]

Being 3 weeks away, could even be a new Govt in that time in this country !

DONT rely on anything, things change on a whim !

[KhunLA]

Going by their track record of 1st date announced, then postponements ... short answer - NO

[HeijoshinCool]

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This just out from Thai government spokesman:

 

Yes...

No...

Yes.....

Possibly....

No...

We'll see...

What was the question....?

 

[ezzra]

You can trust them as far as you can throw them goes on the saying.. strangely enough, governments don't operate on a premise of trust, only what is perceived to be good for the government/people on the day...

[Peterw42]

Like many things in Thailand, I think you will find its still a proposal, yet to be officially passed by parliament etc. 

Its not a matter of keeping their word etc, they haven't actually given their word as yet.

 

 

[madmen]

There is an article by TAT today in another newspaper that suggests they have written this high season off so no chance of dropping COE or sandbox 

[BangkokReady]

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Can we trust the Thai government to keep its word on November 1st?

I don't really think this is the right way to look at it.  It's not like they've given any sort of guarantee.  The obvious subtext/implied caveat to anything covid is "we would like this to be the case but anything can happen and things can and will change quickly and frequently".

 

I've always taken anything said about something happening in the future relating to covid to be unconfirmed and subject to change.  It's just a plan until it happens.

[Kwasaki]

46 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

can I put my trust in the Thai government to follow through with what they have stated

Surely you know you cannot trust any country govt. ????

[statman78]

Since the November 1 proposal is to open a few select provinces based on vaccination rates.  I think that the opening (if it occurs) will be similar to the Phuket sandbox.  This means a COE, a stay at a SHA hotel and multiple Covid tests.  As with all decisions here in Thailand it needs to go through a number of committees so that useless government officials can look like they are actually doing something.  As with decisions like this in the past, don’t expect a definite answer until the last days of October.

[Stocky]

54 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

However, can I put my trust in the Thai government to follow through

Given the government's track record plus the vagaries of the Covid virus, it's always going to be a gamble.

If you're feeling lucky why not buy some lottery tickets too. 

 

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Edited October 8, 2021 by Stocky

[RafPinto]

Yes. 

I trust everything they say.

 

[Resident Alien]

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

can I put my trust in the Thai government

Can you put your trust in the UK government

[nobodysfriend]

Trust nobody .

 

Especially the people who tell you that you can trust them .

 

What the government says is not legally binding and can change anytime due to unforeseen circumstances ...

[Scouse123]

14 minutes ago, Resident Alien said:

Can you put your trust in the UK government

I think you can in so far as the UK government is very aware of airlines and business needs and don't feel they would just announce this without considering and taking into account that people need firm commitments to make travel plans.

 

I don't think Thailand ever takes these things into account.

[Scouse123]

29 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

Yes. 

I trust everything they say.

 

I suppose I asked for that!

[Neeranam]

I remember a time when most people I met in Thailand were adventurers.

This seemed to stop, especially when the likes of ThaiLustLines came on the go and retired tax accountants started coming to live here. 

Take a gamble, what the worst thing that could happen? You get a holiday in Phuket! 

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

Being 3 weeks away, could even be a new Govt in that time in this country !

DONT rely on anything, things change on a whim !

Yes,

 

I think not get too excited and keep my itchy fingers off the keyboard to book a flight in haste.

 

I see airlines are rapidly lifting their flight prices online and these can fall back quickly as well if there isn't the demand they are expecting.

[Scouse123]

5 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I remember a time when most people I met in Thailand were adventurers.

This seemed to stop, especially when the likes of ThaiLustLines came on the go and retired tax accountants started coming to live here. 

Take a gamble, what the worst thing that could happen? You get a holiday in Phuket! 

Hahaha,

 

I am not into sex tourism and never an accountant, ex hotelier.

 

and....I don't like Phuket!

[Neeranam]

Just now, Scouse123 said:

Hahaha,

 

I am not into sex tourism and never an accountant, ex hotelier.

 

and....I don't like Phuket!

I wasn't meaning you.

Take a risk.

I'm in a similar situation, but I can work online, anywhere in the world. I'm thinking of flying to Italy, Spain then the UK, and maybe Columbia on the way home. 

[RafPinto]

51 minutes ago, Resident Alien said:

Can you put your trust in the UK government

I do.

[mtls2005]

I'd plan on a 7 day ASQ, at least through until 1/1/22. And a CoE, and COVID insurance through your current permission to stay.

 

If it gets lifted sooner then that's a bonus. Planning anything re: int'l travel will be a <deleted>-shoot for a while yet.

 

 

[nobodysfriend]

8 minutes ago, RafPinto said:

I do.

Boris loves you .

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

I'd plan on a 7 day ASQ, at least through until 1/1/22. And a CoE, and COVID insurance through your current permission to stay.

 

If it gets lifted sooner then that's a bonus. Planning anything re: int'l travel will be a <deleted>-shoot for a while yet.

 

 

I have full insurance anyway including Covid 19, I suppose I could manage a sandbox for 7 days at a push but would prefer Samui if they got their act together but prefer Bangkok over both if I can wander around.

 

COE I don't know much about it but I hardly think a deal breaker.

[Card]

You got a refund when cancelling with Qatar for no reason? You mean a voucher?

[animalmagic]

The cheque is in the post.......

[Rampant Rabbit]

Can we trust the Thai government to keep its word on "anything"  

[4MyEgo]

4 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

should I hold off until nearer the 1st November and await further announcements from the Thai hierarchy before booking ?

You just answered your own question. Sound advice, personally I wouldn't book until I knew it was official.

[Scouse123]

57 minutes ago, Card said:

You got a refund when cancelling with Qatar for no reason? You mean a voucher?

Definitely not,

 

I booked to go fully refundable business class and I got cash back to the account that it came from.