4 hours ago, dsj said:

I can't see why Canada is not on the list, it has already double vaccinated 82% of the population and low death rates, and most of the deaths are from the unvaccinated people. Canada is way ahead of USA and the UK.

The Thais probably think that Canada is part of the USA. A niece of mine, a school teacher, told me that New York is on the west coast. Another Thai told me that London is in the USA. They get confused. As for Australia missing, they might be confusing it with Austria. Who knows? Who really knows what is on their mind? And tomorrow it will change anyway.

7 hours ago, James105 said:

Non-Quarantine = Get off plane, go wherever I want.

Quarantine = Get off plane, forced into mandatory quarantine hotel, not allowed to leave until test is negative. 

 

It is not quarantine free access unless they have dropped the test on arrival requirement.   It is possible I missed this announcement.   Have they dropped this?  

Very misleading and an outright lie. Still quarantine

Where is Canada on this list?

They have one of the higher vaccination rates....globally 

50 minutes ago, ericdiam said:

NO HIGH OR EVEN MIDDLE SEASON THIS YEAR!!!!!

Or even LOW season (as we once knew it).

8 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Thais cannot see the "forest" for the "trees"...perhaps "money trees".......is why u never see many thais wear glasses compared to other asians.....they seem to be "shortsighted" in all aspects of life....

Disgusting racism. 

Initially, there is a list of 38 countries that meet the criteria to allow tourists to enter Thailand without quarantine, divided into 3 groups.

“First Group” European Union (EU) 24 countries, for example Austria, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, etc.

Among the EU, the country with the most reported cases of coronavirus is France, as of Oct. 14, France reported 5,578 new cases, including 7,069,089 cumulative cases. lower than Thailand with an average of 10,000 new cases per day

“Group Two” 5 Nordic countries in Northern Europe Includes Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden.

The Nordic group is very safe, the lowest infection rate in Europe.

The other nine “ group three” countries are Israel, Switzerland, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the United States, India, Japan, South Korea and Qatar.

In this group, the country to watch is the United States. Despite the world's 3rd highest vaccination rate, 401 million doses, covering 62% of the population, the United States. have daily infections the most in the world as well

As of October 14, the United States found 99,206 new cases, with a cumulative rate of 45,546,217 cases, making it the number 1 country in the world for cumulative coronavirus infections.

The decision to open the country Every government authority knows it comes with high risks and high stakes. If the infection is controlled, money from foreign tourists will help revive the economic crisis. But in the opposite corner, if the infection is mutated A new wave of outbreaks is more risky than before.

Now it's time for everyone to take risks together!... สามารถติดตามต่อได้ที่ : https://www-dailynews-co-th.translate.goog/news/375300/?utm_source=grf-eng&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=giraff.io&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=fr&_x_tr_pto=nui

Does this mean people coming from these countries or people with nationality of these countries?

 

 

20 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The Thais probably think that Canada is part of the USA. A niece of mine, a school teacher, told me that New York is on the west coast. Another Thai told me that London is in the USA. They get confused. As for Australia missing, they might be confusing it with Austria. Who knows? Who really knows what is on their mind? And tomorrow it will change anyway.

Thais' geographical knowledge of America is much better than american's knowledge of Asia. 

 

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Does this mean people coming from these countries or people with nationality of these countries?

 

 

Thais' geographical knowledge of America is much better than american's knowledge of Asia. 

 

Always funny to see Americans struggle with geography. But, when their own vast country has everything they could possibly need as far as scenery and attractions goes, it is understandable that they wouldn't pay much attention to where other countries are on the map. Many Thais are ignorant about the outside world simply because they are uneducated and ignorant. Different circumstances.

 

That too though is understandable, when they are taught from birth that Thailand is the best place on Earth so why have any interest in what is beyond the borders - unless it's ko-pop of course.

And the UK is still not low risk with 40,000 new daily infections in a country , England, that has stopped taking any precautions.

 

Economic value? What does that mean?

No places of entertainment open for them to spend money so only the large hotels and resorts will benefit, many not owned by Thais or owned  by super rich Thais.

It is still the vaccinated foreigners entering Thailand who are at risk from unvaccinated Thais. Get all your people vaccinated Mr Prime Minister.

Its all about the money. Lot of countries with high rates of covid infections. Im from a lower rate county than a lot of countries on the list. Im sure Mexico will take my money. Goodluck Thailand. You'll need it.

***click***

Will they come if they have to quarantine  when they return home?

3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Many Thais are ignorant about the outside world simply because they are uneducated and ignorant. Different circumstances.

 

That too though is understandable, when they are taught from birth that Thailand is the best place on Earth so why have any interest in what is beyond the borders - unless it's ko-pop of course.

This speaks volumes about the Thais you hang out with. 

As a matter of interest, do you have any Thai relatives? 

And the price inflation has already begun.  Places that have had their doors shut for a while are already open again.  Expecting the flood of people.

5 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Finland also, overlooked.

But: the original article in dailynews reads different.

Not like 1)+2)+3) = 38

The Nordic countries are grouped as lowest risk countries.

The USA is mentioned explicitely as "critical" with still high infection rates.

France is pointed out as EU country with the highest infection rate (?).

So this 38 countries is for consideration and might well shrink to my opinion.

Still no idea what happened to Singapore?

France has an infection rate of less than 5,000 daily and 85% of population vaxxed. I'm due my booster next month too.

Compare that with the UK which has similar population to France and indeed Thailand.  Good vaccination rate in UK but all precautions have been dropped in England whilst the daily infection rate is 40,000 with many more hospitalisations and deaths than France now.

 

If Thailand must use statistics they should get them right.

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This speaks volumes about the Thais you hang out with. 

As a matter of interest, do you have any Thai relatives? 

I've lived in Thailand for 26 years and have been married to a Thai for over 30 years. My comment comes from my observations over that period of time.

 

I'm guessing you are Thai, which would explain why you appear to be in denial. Perfectly normal, and explained in my post above.

9 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

As I was just mentioning a few days ago before my post was locked. Covid insurance will still be required for all those already vaccinated. C.O.E. = Thailand Pass new name same games. Anyone who believed the PM a few days ago is a fool.

Covid insurance is a scam, dreamt up to feed an industry lobby the same as ASQ was and is a scam, dreamt up to feed the hotel lobby.

However, in a digital age, it is not beyond the realms of technology to have a country insist on any visitor having general medical insurance for worthwhile amounts (say $10m) instead of some meaningless $100k number.

However, in the long term, I see this as all falling on the airlines and outbound immigration. They already check your passport, visa, entry rules, etc. so adding a covidbollocks jab requirement or some other <deleted> to that list is a marginal addition. Insurance companies would (quite simply) agree to meet an international standard for minimum medical care coverage.

 

However, the notion that Thailand could manage 40m applications via their embassies is beyond comprehension. Neither could Somchai at immigration as they already stamp their lovely meaningless pieces of paper and waste your time. Add a further burden to that and they would go absent in even greater numbers.

4 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

I've lived in Thailand for 26 years and have been married to a Thai for over 30 years. My comment comes from my observations over that period of time.

 

You'll be saying "she is different" next ???? 

27 minutes ago, Kalasin Jo said:

And the UK is still not low risk with 40,000 new daily infections in a country , England, that has stopped taking any precautions.

 

Economic value? What does that mean?

No places of entertainment open for them to spend money so only the large hotels and resorts will benefit, many not owned by Thais or owned  by super rich Thais.

It is still the vaccinated foreigners entering Thailand who are at risk from unvaccinated Thais. Get all your people vaccinated Mr Prime Minister.

In UK they took wrong of the tests in southapton..43.000 cases what they said was negative is positive.

9 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

Just wondering how they intend to solve the latest idea of a 1-day quarantine an PCR test, if tourists REALLY arrive in large numbers... imagine all the hotels who will have to accommodate thousands of tourists for 1 night only with all the cleaning requirements that the current covid situation requires for them... If I would be a hotel owner, I would NOT accept such tourists, except when the government pays me 2-3 nights for each tourist who stays 1 night for covid-checks. AND we need a new website with all the hotels who offer that service, I am pretty sure that all ASQ or SHA hotels are interested in that business

From what I saw when I stayed in a hotel in the first years that I came here as a tourist, all the work and cleaning that the hotel does everyday in every room, is the same whether the same guest stays in the room, or a new one will arrive.

So....

6 hours ago, lujanit said:

I doubt any Ozzies would come anyway.  They have to go through an expensive 14 day quarantine upon returning to Australia.

No longer the case after Nov' 1

20 minutes ago, SGD said:

Covid insurance is a scam, dreamt up to feed an industry lobby the same as ASQ was and is a scam, dreamt up to feed the hotel lobby.

However, in a digital age, it is not beyond the realms of technology to have a country insist on any visitor having general medical insurance for worthwhile amounts (say $10m) instead of some meaningless $100k number.

However, in the long term, I see this as all falling on the airlines and outbound immigration. They already check your passport, visa, entry rules, etc. so adding a covidbollocks jab requirement or some other <deleted> to that list is a marginal addition. Insurance companies would (quite simply) agree to meet an international standard for minimum medical care coverage.

 

However, the notion that Thailand could manage 40m applications via their embassies is beyond comprehension. Neither could Somchai at immigration as they already stamp their lovely meaningless pieces of paper and waste your time. Add a further burden to that and they would go absent in even greater numbers.

Covidbollocks????  Clearly nobody in YOUR family has died of Covid

So Mr Freedumb, take your meds and go back to your room

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

That's also changing quickly, as we speak, for at least NSW.

No drink! No clubbing! No wine with meal No Go Gos no bars No pubs! Curfew! Welcome to Riyadh.

9 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

Just wondering how they intend to solve the latest idea of a 1-day quarantine an PCR test, if tourists REALLY arrive in large numbers... imagine all the hotels who will have to accommodate thousands of tourists for 1 night only with all the cleaning requirements that the current covid situation requires for them... If I would be a hotel owner, I would NOT accept such tourists, except when the government pays me 2-3 nights for each tourist who stays 1 night for covid-checks. AND we need a new website with all the hotels who offer that service, I am pretty sure that all ASQ or SHA hotels are interested in that business

Not to worry, there will not be huge numbers of tourists coming in. For months now, Mexico and Colombia have consistently asked for a declaration on arrival, and nothing more. Peru, Brazil : only one PCR test before arriving. That's a lot easier and, importantly, consistent - a major change to those rules is very unlikely. As opposed to the constant change of foot characteristic of the Thai authorities.

It's the same flying costs going to Mexico or South America as going to Thailand, coming from Europe, give or take 100-200 EUR - insignificant if it is for a few weeks visit. And probably cheaper for North Americans too. Nice beaches, nice weather, booze no problem, cheap local costs etc.

Thailand has some serious competition here. But it is known for totally ignoring reality.

I wonder if the latest news from UK will exclude the UK?

 

1. NHS Test and Trace has suspended Covid testing provided by a private laboratory in Wolverhampton amid fears up to 43,000 people were given the wrong result
2. Earlier, a mass testing site in Berkshire asked people who recently got a negative result to book another test
3. It comes after reports that some people received negative PCR tests after testing positive using lateral flow devices
4. But health officials say the problem is "an isolated incident attributed to one laboratory" and that they are investigating the cause
5. Separately, travellers returning to England will be able to take cheaper lateral flow tests from 24 October
6. Along with other changes to travel rules, Airlines UK says the move is a "major step forward"
7. Vaccinated Australian travellers and their parents will be able to visit Sydney from November without quarantining

9 hours ago, CamaroZL1 said:

Strange to see Australia not on the list

Why?

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Why?

Straya out, India in!

6 hours ago, lujanit said:

What about Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia?  As I said NSW (and Victoria) are not Australia.  Western Australia and Queensland are pretty anal about letting people in.

well thats up to there own states.

 

Im from Victoria and have no interested in WA or QLD. They are only play politics with border policies.

12 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Why?

Well Australia should be clearly ahead of about 30 countries on this list at least.

 

Within a month will probably be the highest vaccinated country in the world (%) wise and compared to 98% of other countries have had minimal cases and deaths.

 

However if the daily news is correct and the requirements re what countries Thailand let in first are largely based on vaccination rates and case numbers Australia will be one of the first few named.

 

When the official list is released I would bet good money on the fact Australia will be one of them

1 hour ago, Scrotobike said:

India?

Low risk?

??????

Yes because 7-11 stores in Thailand are having a special on 4 packs of straws.

4 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Neither have successful vaccine programs. Both used failed lock down to 'control' the spread. Neither have geonomic analysis programs.

Neither? You mean NZ and the poor Asian countries around Thailand?

 

Because Australia have close to (or will soon enough) have the highest vaccination rate in the world as a percentage I mean