Popular Post webfact Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 By Panithan Onthaworn The Charoen Pokphand Group (CP Group) said in a press release that its chairman and founder Dhanin Chearavanont holds only Thai nationality, rather than Chinese nationality, as rumoured on social media over the past week. The company said warning of legal action against spreading misinformation. “Dhanin is Thai as he was born in Thailand and holds Thai nationality,” said the statement. Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/33973/cp-group-says-dhanin-is-a-thai-national-not-chinese-threatens-lawsuits/ -- © Copyright Thai Enquirer 2021-10-15 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe Farang Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhanin_Chearavanont 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) It never would have occurred to me to think about this or even give it the slightest consideration. That is, until someone apparently started threatening lawsuits and spreading it into the English language media. Probably would have gone away in a day or so until someone started getting all thin-skinned about it. Edited October 15, 2021 by John Drake 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BE88 Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Why he only cares now is joined Xi's viewer in China with his companies ? Not healthy to be a Chinese/Thai billionaire now. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 If he is not Chinese, why is he "known as"? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Now, this is interesting. According to Wiki: "Dhanin attended primary school at Sarasit Pittayalai School in Ban Pong District, Ratchaburi, until graduating in 1949 and went to graduate from high school in 1951 from Shantou No.1 High School, China." So it seems he moved to China after Mao took over in 1949. Fascinating career move. I'm not sure what it says about his political leanings today. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, John Drake said: Now, this is interesting. According to Wiki: "Dhanin attended primary school at Sarasit Pittayalai School in Ban Pong District, Ratchaburi, until graduating in 1949 and went to graduate from high school in 1951 from Shantou No.1 High School, China." So it seems he moved to China after Mao took over in 1949. Fascinating career move. I'm not sure what it says about his political leanings today. As he was a child when he moved, and that might have been before Mao’s takeover, the above quote does not state when he moved, I doubt he had much choice in the matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: As he was a child when he moved, and that might have been before Mao’s takeover, the above quote does not state when he moved, I doubt he had much choice in the matter. Most families that could do so were running away from China in 1949. For some reason this fellow and his family went to China and he graduated from a Chinese high school. All that would hint at CCP connections. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djayz Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) Who cares? As long as people don't call me Thai or Chinese, I couldn't give a rat's ar$e. ???????????? Edited October 15, 2021 by djayz 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cake Monster Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 How can such a large Conglomerate as CP be so fragile, and insecure. Every time there is some kind of stirrings about the business, or the people behind the Business, they automatically go into Law Suit Threat Mode. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 No doubt, the man is Thai....as long as he does not fall out od favour. If so, he is farang. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Cake Monster said: How can such a large Conglomerate as CP be so fragile, and insecure. Every time there is some kind of stirrings about the business, or the people behind the Business, they automatically go into Law Suit Threat Mode. Maybe a boost for the income ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, John Drake said: Most families that could do so were running away from China in 1949. For some reason this fellow and his family went to China and he graduated from a Chinese high school. All that would hint at CCP connections. Or maybe the nationalist govt that was dominated by military elements, the civil wars or the brutality of Japanese occupation and expansion before Japan’s defeat in WW2 drove his family from China and only when they were ended with Mao’s triumph did they feel it was safe to return. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relax33 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Bluespunk said: Now, this is interesting. According to Wiki: "Dhanin attended primary school at Sarasit Pittayalai School in Ban Pong District, Ratchaburi, until graduating in 1949 and went to graduate from high school in 1951 from Shantou No.1 High School, China." So it seems he moved to China after Mao took over in 1949. Fascinating career move. I'm not sure what it says about his political leanings today. If you research on the history of Overseas Chinese, u will find that it was common for parents to want their kids to have formal education at relatively more established academic institutions in China during that time both for the quality of education n to inculcate a sense of tradition n roots into them .. Most of today's established schools in Southeast Asia were in their infancy during that time ... Its no different from a German guy presently with kids in TL who may like them to have some formal education in Germany at some point in time ... n u wouldn't say that they r heading to G to study nazism would you ... ha 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, relax33 said: If you research on the history of Overseas Chinese, u will find that it was common for parents to want their kids to have formal education at relatively more established academic institutions in China during that time both for the quality of education n to inculcate a sense of tradition n roots into them .. Most of today's established schools in Southeast Asia were in their infancy during that time ... Its no different from a German guy presently with kids in TL who may like them to have some formal education in Germany at some point in time ... n u wouldn't say that they r heading to G to study nazism would you ... ha I didn’t post the quote you quoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, relax33 said: n u wouldn't say that they r heading to G to study nazism would you ... ha I would if it was 1939. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RafPinto Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 `Why threaten with a lawsuit? Aren't they proud of being Scheinese? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relax33 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, John Drake said: I would if it was 1939. yes, you are so right , you indeed have a point .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Or maybe the nationalist govt that was dominated by military elements, the civil wars or the brutality of Japanese occupation and expansion before Japan’s defeat in WW2 drove his family from China and only when they were ended with Mao’s triumph did they feel it was safe to return. Because things were so much safer under Mao? Right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, John Drake said: Because things were so much safer under Mao? Right? Never said that. Mao was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of Chinese citizens because of the great leap forward and cultural revolution. The man was an appalling creature who I regard with utter contempt. Edited October 15, 2021 by Bluespunk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dogmatix Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) I wonder how he got to study in what appears to be a Chinese state school after the communist takeover without Chinese citizenship. Did they really allow foreigners to enroll? It seems unlikely. China used to consider all overseas Chinese as their citizens (still does to a great extent) and readily issued passports to them without worrying about dual nationality. They only banned dual nationality in the 1970s under pressure from Southeast Asian countries such as Thailand, Indonesia and the Philippines who were fearful of a 5th column of a Chinese citizens loyal to the communist motherland residing in their countries. This was big stumbling block to normalisation of diplomatic relations with Southeast Asia and eventually China, being very desirous of opening up diplomatic and economic relations with the region, succumbed and agreed to ban dual nationality. Dhanin was born in 1929 and studied in China in the 1950s when Chinese routinely claimed their Chinese nationality in order study or work in China. He was born in Thailand but I don't know if his father had Thai citizenship at the time. Many Chinese immigrants didn't bother to apply for Thai citizenship, as their were no restrictions on foreigners owning businesses and working. Children born in Thailand were entitled to Thai citizenship but males often didn't take it up and remained Chinese in order to avoid military service. Girls could take Thai citizenship and own land on behalf of the family but would lose their Thai citizenship automatically, if they married a known Chinese citizen or other foreign national. If Dhanin's father was not Thai at the time of his birth, having another citizenship could have rendered him liable to having his Thai citizenship revoked, if he stayed in China for more than 5 years. In the cold war years, this happened to a lot of Thai Chinese kids, born in Thailand to Chinese fathers, who were sent to China to study. You can find evidence of their citizenship revocations in the Royal Gazette. A large group were stripped of their nationality and denied visas to return to Thailand for decades until the 1990s when they finally won the right to come home with tearful reunions with surviving Thai relatives at the airport. This was obviously a big issue for Thai Chinese of Dhanin's generation who studied abroad. Perhaps that is the reason for the threats of legal action. Edited October 15, 2021 by Dogmatix 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relax33 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Excel said: Ok let us in to the secret. How much were you paid to write that ? Wow, doubt anyone will employ a noob like me for such tasks Am just stating the obvious to give a more truthful reflection of things .. Guess sometimes we need to learn to appreciate life more, its just so easy to criticize but so hard to achieve things ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Who cares, and why would foreigners who post in aseannnow give a rats @®§€ as to where he was or wasn't born. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Artisi said: Who cares, and why would foreigners who post in aseannnow give a rats @®§€ as to where he was or wasn't born. First, you sound like someone who needs to toddle on along to the next topic, if this one bothers you so much. Second, to answer your question, I'll bet not one person posting or reading this topic woke up this morning with even a thought of CP or their patriarch in their head. And we all would have gone right through the day completely oblivious of the question had not CP itself started to threaten law suits and magnify the topic to headline news. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, John Drake said: Now, this is interesting. According to Wiki: "Dhanin attended primary school at Sarasit Pittayalai School in Ban Pong District, Ratchaburi, until graduating in 1949 and went to graduate from high school in 1951 from Shantou No.1 High School, China." So it seems he moved to China after Mao took over in 1949. Fascinating career move. I'm not sure what it says about his political leanings today. His allegiance is the money, political leanings change with where the monies safe. That might not be China at the moment, hence the I'm a Thai citizen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad3000 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I stopped shopping at Tesco (rare anyway). Stopped all but emergency purchases at 7. No longer buy any CP foodstuffs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post relax33 Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chad3000 said: I stopped shopping at Tesco (rare anyway). Stopped all but emergency purchases at 7. No longer buy any CP foodstuffs. Charoen Pokphand - Wikipedia Here's a list of CP 's holdings, you will need to stop patronizing Makro, PTT n True too And if you are against CP cos he's Thai Chinese, than read this on the holdings of Thai Chinese in Thailand ..Thai Chinese - Wikipedia Probably means you are better off not staying in Thailand if you intend to be true to your belief ... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Dhanin's father, Chia Ek Chor, and uncle, Chia Seow Hui, left China for Bangkok in the 1920s to begin selling seeds and agricultural chemicals. If your parents are Chinese are you not Chinese? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I always thought the original Thai's were Chinese 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad3000 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, relax33 said: Charoen Pokphand - Wikipedia Here's a list of CP 's holdings, you will need to stop patronizing Makro, PTT n True too And if you are against CP cos he's Thai Chinese, than read this on the holdings of Thai Chinese in Thailand ..Thai Chinese - Wikipedia Probably means you are better off not staying in Thailand if you intend to be true to your belief ... Whatva stupid notion. Not only do I not use makro, true and ptt I have never used them in thirty years. Wake up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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