Healthcare requirements for retirees.

[supermac]

Found this today in Google discover and copied from the <removed> it was issued by the department of consular affairs. Anyone any ideas what it means? as it does not mention any specific visa, ie O A retirement who are the only group targetted to date.

 

Medical insurance

At the moment, only Thai nationals are not required to have medical insurance as their medical costs will be covered by the National Health Security Office or Social Security office.

"We will work with the Public Health Ministry and the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration [CCSA] to extend the exemption to foreign residents who already have medical insurance in Thailand," Mr Naurechai said.

For foreign travellers, they have to make sure that their insurance policy does not only specify Covid-19 health coverage. It should cover other kinds of sickness as well as hospitalisation expenses.

The CCSA will meet today to discuss the health insurance exemption issue for foreign residents. It should be effective hopefully before Nov 1, he said.

Edited October 30, 2021 by ubonjoe
removed a mention of the Bangkok Post (forum rule)

[ubonjoe]

The $50,000 insurance is only required for entry to the country.

If entering on a new OA visa the new insurance for it will be required.

 

[Robin]

Has the rule changed for retirees.  I am on a Non-IM O extension which has never required medical insurance.  Hs the Junta realised that  here is another a of squeezing money ou of long-term visa holders?  Not surprised, as hi seems to be the way of things now.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, Robin said:

Has the rule changed for retirees.  I am on a Non-IM O extension which has never required medical insurance.  Hs the Junta realised that  here is another a of squeezing money ou of long-term visa holders?  Not surprised, as hi seems to be the way of things now.

The only change is for OA visas.

You still do not need medical insurance for your extension of stay.

[ezzra]

The more those doofuses pile up more regulation expenses and red tapes on foreigners the less of them will come, no one likes to be prodded, poked housed in a quarantine hotel for one night just to visit this country, i'm sure other counties will be only too happy to accommodate those who just fed up... 

[supermac]

The CCSA will meet today to discuss the health insurance exemption issue for foreign residents. It should be effective hopefully before Nov 1, he said.

Edited 1 minuteAt the moment, only Thai nationals are not required to have medical insurance as their medical costs will be covered by the National Health Security Office or Social Security office. ago by ubonjoe my query is where has this information came from as it states only Thai nationals are exempt from health insurance?

[ubonjoe]

Starting on November 1st the requirement for entry to the country will be $50,000 of insurance for your length of stay in the country you get when entering the country instead of the $100,000 required before.

That info was posted in topics on the forum and embassy websites a few weeks ago.

Info is here on this embassy webpage. https://thaiembdc.org/visas/

 

 

[Sheryl]

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Starting on November 1st the requirement for entry to the country will be $50,000 of insurance for your length of stay in the country you get when entering the country instead of the $100,000 required before.

That info was posted in topics on the forum and embassy websites a few weeks ago.

Info is here on this embassy webpage. https://thaiembdc.org/visas/

 

 

Actually this site says $50,000 inlcuding COVID in some places and $100,000 COVID sopecific in others on the same page.

 

In addition, under visa requirements it states  40/400K for O and O-X visas and none for O-A, clearly a mistake. The 40/400 was for O-A and O-X and nto for O; even if they have now extebnded it to new O visas they would nto have lifted it for O-A. Also, makes no sense to have a lower insruance requirement for the visa issuance than for entry into the country.

 

I think still quite confused guidance. Alnd  yet clear what sort of documentation is needed for insurance policies under the new $50,000 requirement.

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

In addition, under visa requirements it states  40/400K for O and O-X visas and none for O-A, clearly a mistake. The 40/400 was for O-A and O-X and nto for O; even if they have now extebnded it to new O visas they would nto have lifted it for O-A. Also, makes no sense to have a lower insruance requirement for the visa issuance than for entry into the country.

A new OA via requires $100,000 of insurance and that has to include covid 19 insurance. See: https://longstay.tgia.org/guidelineoa

A new non-o visa requires the basic 40/400k that is still required for existing OA visas and they need the $50k covid insurance for entry to the country.

21 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I think still quite confused guidance. Alnd  yet clear what sort of documentation is needed for insurance policies under the new $50,000 requirement.

The newest info at the top of page is a bit more clear.

[Sheryl]

31 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A new OA via requires $100,000 of insurance and that has to include covid 19 insurance. See: https://longstay.tgia.org/guidelineoa

A new non-o visa requires the basic 40/400k that is still required for existing OA visas and they need the $50k covid insurance for entry to the country.

The newest info at the top of page is a bit more clear.

and what is required to enter on  a re-entry permit?

 

 

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

and what is required to enter on  a re-entry permit?

Only the $50k insurance that is required for entry to the country. No change from what was required before.

[Sheryl]

Just now, ubonjoe said:

Only the $50k insurance that is required for entry to the country. No change from what was required before.

Previously was $100K and CIOVID only policies could be used. Apparently now must be comprehensive health insurance policy?

[jerrymahoney]

26 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

and what is required to enter on  a re-entry permit?

 

 

https://thaiembdc.org/notification/notificovidsituationinthailand/

[Pib]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

A new OA via requires $100,000 of insurance and that has to include covid 19 insurance. See: https://longstay.tgia.org/guidelineoa

A new non-o visa requires the basic 40/400k that is still required for existing OA visas and they need the $50k covid insurance for entry to the country.

The newest info at the top of page is a bit more clear.

Did you mean to say "....a new non-OA..." or are you saying a new non-O will now require 40/400K for a visa/extension of stay?

[ubonjoe]

11 minutes ago, Pib said:

Did you mean to say "....a new non-OA..." or are you saying a new non-O will now require 40/400K for a visa/extension of stay?

To apply for a non-o visa at a embassy or consulate requires 90 days of the 40/400k baht insurance.

It has been that way for over a year now.

[MeePeeMai]

What's strange is that the Thai Embassy in Washington DC states that 400k/40k insurance IS required for a Non-O retirement

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/nonoretirement/

 

...but no mention of it being required for a Non-OA

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/09/30/nonimmigrantoaox/

 

I realise that this is probably an error but it has been this way for many months now (uncorrected).

 

It's amazing how ass backwards things are here and how just a little consistency and clarity would surely go a long way in elevating the poor reputation/history of the visa rules and procedures here.

[Pib]

Just now, MeePeeMai said:

What's strange is that the Thai Embassy in Washington DC states that 400k/40k insurance IS required for a Non-O retirement

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/nonoretirement/

 

...but no mention of it being required for a Non-OA

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/09/30/nonimmigrantoaox/

 

I realise that this is probably an error but it has been this way for many months now (uncorrected).

 

It's amazing how ass backwards things are here and how just a little consistency and clarity would surely go a long way in elevating the poor reputation/history of the visa rules and procedures here.

Yea...I was (am) looking at the very same D.C. webpage.

[ubonjoe]

12 minutes ago, Pib said:

Yea...I was (am) looking at the very same D.C. webpage.

Look at this page, https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/oalongstay/ (link at the bottom of the page you posted a link to).

But is has not been updated to the new $100,000 requirement.

 

[Pib]

Now if I look at the Thai Consolate Canberra AU web site for

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Look at this page, https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/oalongstay/ (link at the bottom of the page you posted a link to).

But is has not been updated to the new $100,000 requirement.

 

The  link above is talking an OA visa.  I was asking about a new O Visa

[Pib]

When looking at the Thai Consulate Canberra AU website regarding a Non O Marriage or Volunteer or Medical just for example...it does not reflect any 400K/40K general medical insurance requirement.   Yes, I know there would be COVID insurance to get a COE to enter on the Visa....but I'm talking is there "now" a general medical 400K/40K insurance requirement to get a Non O Visa initially issued at an embassy?   

 

https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/non-immigrant-visa-category-o/

https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/non-immigrant-visa-category-o-o-volunteer-for-volunteer/

https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/non-immigrant-visa-category-o-o-medical-visa/

 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

15 minutes ago, Pib said:

I was asking about a new O Visa

For retirement it is here. https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/nonoretirement/

For others reasons it is not required. For family members of a Thai it is here. 

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/07/11/foreigners_family/

Scroll down this page to find other non-o visas. https://thaiembdc.org/visas/

[Pib]

57 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

For retirement it is here. https://thaiembdc.org/2020/11/17/nonoretirement/

For others reasons it is not required. For family members of a Thai it is here. 

https://thaiembdc.org/2020/07/11/foreigners_family/

Scroll down this page to find other non-o visas. https://thaiembdc.org/visas/

For a person who got a Non 0 Retirement issued outside Thailand which had the 400K/40K medical requirement, when the person does an extension of stay is the insurance still required?   My understanding is No.

[ubonjoe]

Just now, Pib said:

My understanding is No.

That is correct.

[Pib]

 

I was just reading a Bangkok Post news article hot off the press as of 4:32pm today/30 Oct 2021 and it referenced a Ministry of Foreign Affairs weblink regarding insurance requirements for those expats living and working in Thailand to return to/reenter Thailand once the country reopens 1 Nov 2021.  See MFA link below.

 

https://www.mfa.go.th/en/content/thailand-pass-faqs?cate=5d5bcb4e15e39c3060006842

 

Quote

 

DOCUMENTATION

1. I am an expat living and working in Thailand, do I have to submit an insurance policy document?

- Expats living and working in Thailand under a valid visa or residential permit are required to provide proof of insurance coverage in Thailand or valid social security card or certified letter from their employer.

- Thai nationals are not required to provide proof of insurance coverage as they are covered by Thailand’s universal healthcare programme.

 

 

[ubonjoe]

22 minutes ago, Pib said:

I was just reading a Bangkok Post news article hot off the press as of 4:32pm today/30 Oct 2021 and it referenced a Ministry of Foreign Affairs weblink regarding insurance requirements for those expats living and working in Thailand to return to/reenter Thailand once the country reopens 1 Nov 2021. 

I have seen info similar to that before. it seems the MFA is trying to consolidate all the info.

[Negita43]

An interesting discussion but totally incomprehensible to me as I do not know what all the abbreviations actually mean -

 

"In addition, under visa requirements it states  40/400K for O and O-X visas and none for O-A, clearly a mistake. The 40/400 was for O-A and O-X and nto for O;"

 

Can some one give me a link to where I can find out what the emboldened above actually mean in practise.

 

Thanks

[YT3k72Em]

Can the $50,000 insurance be bought in Thailand?  Are they going to check all the foreign insurance contracts in multiple languages?

 

Anybody have a rough idea of what that type of coverage would cost? and how long must it be for (I assume the length of your intended stay) if for example you are on a re-entry permit.