Xmas Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 In Australia trying to return, due to age generally return using Travel insurance. As Australian government warns about travel to Thailand at present cant find an insurance company that will provide necessary insurance cover to meet new Thailand Pass requirements. now they are insisting on general health as well as Covid cover. When only Covid cover was required it was available from Thai companies at a reasonable price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Salerno said: A few relevant snippets: "Thailand is considering slapping a 500-baht ($16.60) entry fee on tourists to help cover foreigners' unpaid medical bills, officials say." "The unpaid hospital bills of foreign tourists cost the state about 700 million baht a year, the ministry said." "The new policy might help prevent "trash" tourists from entering the country, Mr Pradit was quoted as saying." From an article written in 2013 https://www.smh.com.au/world/thailand-considers-charging-all-tourists-to-cover-unpaid-hospital-bills-20131022-2vzl0.html few yrs back in LOS I got clipped by a red truck driving up doi shutep on my mbike--broke 2 toes and he took off I went to sev hospitals and none would touch me without INS or cash up front--after 8 hrs of trying i ended up taping my toes myself... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: few yrs back in LOS I got clipped by a red truck driving up doi shutep on my mbike--broke 2 toes and he took off I went to sev hospitals and none would touch me without INS or cash up front--after 8 hrs of trying i ended up taping my toes myself... That's rough, any of them government hospitals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Salerno said: That's rough, any of them government hospitals? tried both gov and private in CNX...toes are doing good..still working...never got a baht from hit n run driver..almost pushed me off mountain into oblivion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: tried both gov and private in CNX...toes are doing good..still working...never got a baht from hit n run driver..almost pushed me off mountain into oblivion That sucks, luckily it was just a couple of broken toes. I've never had to go to a hospital luckily; visited a clinic a couple of times (infected finger first time, and what turned out to be pneumonia second - only diagnosed after I left!) and although they charged like wounded bulls they never asked anything up front before treatment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted November 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 7 hours ago, alyx said: Well, that would justify the need for every non Thai to be insured when in Thailand. If one cannot afford an insurance, then they will not be able to support the expense of an hospitalisation. This being said this is quite a heavy financial weight to put on the "visitors" And many are insured.... but the policies they have paid a lot of money out for may not qualify them to re-enter Thailand. There is also the duration of the insurance.... mine ends in May, and if I return on a Re-Entry Permit to December, I would need to find separate cover for the extra 7 months. Also what about people who self insure, I have to keep 800kbaht in the bank and actually keep more, for any possible medical needs. Far more flexible and cost effective over an insurance policy. It is a bit of a Catch22, and the cynical may say a money spinner for Thai insurance companies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, jacko45k said: It is a bit of a Catch22, and the cynical may say a money spinner for Thai insurance companies. An oft repeated phrase on here (especially the "covid insurance scam"), which ignores the fact it doesn't have to be a Thai company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad3000 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Don't feel trapped any more. AXA has affordable insurance. Quoted 60yo 265 days less than 20k THB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Destiny1990 Posted November 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 For me organizing my suitcase going to the airport bring passport often even changing planes in Dubai its already a challenge enough. Now all this other stuff its torture and nightmare and I refuse to cooperate its too complicated and not worth it.imho ???? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad3000 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Salerno said: An oft repeated phrase on here (especially the "covid insurance scam"), which ignores the fact it doesn't have to be a Thai company. It's very difficult for Americans to get overseas policies. It's a very myopic nation. Moreover, this is the nation that is demanding insurance. There should be no shortage of quality, legit and reasonably priced insurance. Edited November 4, 2021 by Chad3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted November 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: For me organizing my suitcase going to the airport bring passport often even changing planes in Dubai its already a challenge enough. Now all this other stuff its torture and nightmare and I refuse to cooperate its too complicated and not worth it.imho ???? Inclined to feel the same..... so I stayed in Thailand. HMPO have made up my mind for me with a so far near 8 week wait for a new passport! Edited November 4, 2021 by jacko45k 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asean Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I still don't understand all this resistance to mandatory health insurance for foreigners in Thailand. If anything it is the opposite of being trapped as it is a weight off your shoulders....... It should be compulsory for ALL foreigners living in Thailand because the Thai public health system only covers Thai citizens. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redwood1 Posted November 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 Face it folks, regular tourist are just not going to come to Thailand any more....Thailand is finished as a tourist destination..... Look even hard core expats are struggling to understand the ever changing requirements to come to Thailand........Tourist have no chance.... I still can't say I fully understand these latest BS insurance requirements even after trying to understand them for a full day.... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Salerno Posted November 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Chad3000 said: It's very difficult for Americans to get overseas policies. It's a very myopic nation. There's many international companies that will be happy to accept US$. 14 minutes ago, Chad3000 said: Moreover, this is the nation that is demanding insurance. There should be no shortage of quality, legit and reasonably priced insurance. You seem happy with the AXA quote 555 Point is, it's not just Thailand that insists on it, countries had it even prior to Covid. Hence I feel the plethora of posts on here that go on about "insurance scam" are somewhat uneducated. https://visaguide.world/travel-insurance/countries-mandatory-travel-insurance/ Edited November 4, 2021 by Salerno 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asean Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, redwood1 said: Face it folks, regular tourist are just not going to come to Thailand any more....Thailand is finished as a tourist destination..... Look even hard core expats are struggling to understand the ever changing requirements to come to Thailand........Tourist have no chance.... I still can't say I fully understand these latest BS insurance requirements even after trying to understand them for a full day.... Do you know what health insurance is? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 7 hours ago, EricTh said: It's ridiculous, how much did you pay for the insurance and for long does it need to cover? I came in with Emirates and the insurance was include. Just lucky that Emirates was the best option for me anyway! For some, if not staying long, a plan like this might work. Travel insurance. But max time is 90 days. https://www.allianztravelinsurance.com/find-a-plan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Salerno said: There's many international companies that will be happy to accept US$. You seem happy with the AXA quote 555 Point is, it's not just Thailand that insists on it, countries had it even prior to Covid. Hence I feel the plethora of posts on here that go on about "insurance scam" are somewhat uneducated. https://visaguide.world/travel-insurance/countries-mandatory-travel-insurance/ As you say, insurance has been required by other countries for quite some time. Nothing new here. Though I did talk with a friend yesterday who sells insurance. She's doing great! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Face it folks, regular tourist are just not going to come to Thailand any more....Thailand is finished as a tourist destination..... Look even hard core expats are struggling to understand the ever changing requirements to come to Thailand........Tourist have no chance.... I still can't say I fully understand these latest BS insurance requirements even after trying to understand them for a full day.... Here are 65,000 reasons why you are wrong. w 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 11 hours ago, perconrad said: I lived in Greenland for 30 years before I settled here and Greenland is certainly not a good place for old men. they have alot of ruby's and other precious stones there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redwood1 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, shdmn said: Here are 65,000 reasons why you are wrong. w Yea well a application is not boots on the ground.....We will see how this high season goes......I dont think it will be pretty..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shdmn Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Yea well a application is not boots on the ground.....We will see how this high season goes......I dont think it will be pretty..... Shocking! Edited November 5, 2021 by shdmn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, redwood1 said: Yea well a application is not boots on the ground.....We will see how this high season goes......I dont think it will be pretty..... Better than the last one. We were in Phuket last year and talk about deserted, the tourist areas anyway. Were just there and it's WAY more lively. And from what I've heard, getting better every day. Even Pattaya is picking up. Was at central festival yesterday and there was a line of cars crawling down Beach road. Didn't see anything like that last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheFishman1 Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 The whole thing is so confusing they should do away with the thia pass 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 8 hours ago, robblok said: Not funny at all would be great to have. Now i got a expenisve health insurance (it is more then enough to satisfy the current need) However anyone that can get that SS should do so and keep paying into it. I mean lot of older guys here would kill to be in Thai SS because it satisfies the requirements and is a nice safetynet. Have you been to a Thai hospital? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottfrid Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Trapped?? Well, I guess that´s a choice too make, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeptic7 Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 17 hours ago, Jeffr2 said: A non O visa holder just posted that he renewed his visa last month and Insurance wasn't required. So I guess it's only when you come back that it's required? For now, yes. But get ready. Wouldn't surprise a bit if mandatory health insurance for extension is the next move they make. And that will be CHECKMATE for many. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chilli42 Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 I feel trapped in Thailand because of my wife. She won’t live anywhere else. Insurance not a problem. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffr2 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Skeptic7 said: For now, yes. But get ready. Wouldn't surprise a bit if mandatory health insurance for extension is the next move they make. And that will be CHECKMATE for many. It will be checkmate for me, absolutely. I'm on the verge of leaving anyway. Not sure where yet! LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said: Better than the last one. We were in Phuket last year and talk about deserted, the tourist areas anyway. Were just there and it's WAY more lively. And from what I've heard, getting better every day. From a couple of days ago, note the girls adhering to the mask policy ???? 555 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 18 hours ago, Chris.B said: Since when does a Non-O visa need health insurance to enter/re-enter Thailand? Since Covid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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