THE WEEK THAT WAS Covid: I can’t help thinking we’re being taken for fools

[Rimmer]

Some misleading and off topic posts removed

[James105]

 

On 12/13/2021 at 11:25 AM, KhunLA said:

This thread is a refreshing read.  'Free thinker' coming out of the closet, away from most of the mob rule.

 

OP ... Thanks for starting.

 

Love the MSM's new spin of vaccine side effects being blamed on the cold weather ... classic.

 

68 years old, and usually told it's 'cold & flu season' this time of year, now it's 'blood clot & heart attack season' ... ???????????? 

 

How did they get it so wrong for so many prior decades.

 

It could also be the post pandemic stress disorder! 

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/post-pandemic-stress-disorder-heart-conditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html

 

Other than the cold weather and stress I cannot imagine what could be causing heart problems in otherwise healthy young males.  

[KhunLA]

42 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

It could also be the post pandemic stress disorder! 

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/post-pandemic-stress-disorder-heart-conditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html

 

Other than the cold weather and stress I cannot imagine what could be causing heart problems in otherwise healthy young males.  

One thing C19 hasn't done, stressed us out.  Going to tourist beaches at high season was so relaxing without tourist.  I'll actually be sad when the silliness ends.  At least got to enjoy in prime conditions.  Doesn't get any better.

 

 

 

 

[Chivas]

On 12/11/2021 at 4:08 PM, pomchop said:

Vaccines have never ever been promoted by any serious person as a "cure".  They are a preventative measure that have been enormously successful for decades in reducing the spread and severity of a variety of diseases.   

You cant come out with sensible posts like that

These anti vaxxers are just terminally dimwitted with their insane claims of scamdemic

 

Meanwhile in the UK the ambulances are queued around the corners at Hospitals desperate to offload their dying patients

 

Complusary vaccination worldwide or fined for each day they refuse

Edited December 13, 2021 by Chivas

[LetsGoJoe]

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

Do you get rapid severe respiratory problems and severe infections of cold and the flu? Most people do not compare to Covid19

 

read more here

 

"Both COVID-19 and the common cold are caused by viruses. COVID-19 is caused by SARS-CoV-2, while the common cold is most often caused by rhinoviruses. These viruses spread in similar ways and cause many of the same signs and symptoms. However, there are a few differences"

Thanks for that.

Obviously, CoVid-19 has dealt out a nastier form of voodoo for some than the "common-cold" could ever muster.

The premise is that an RNA virus, be it cold, flu or a more serious strain, is inherently slippery and evades the clutches of a "vaccine" for reasons denoted. Regardless of it's voodoo they are all still fundamentally an RNA-virus.

 

Recently, my wife and 2 young kids tested (+) and spent 10-days in the "hospi-tel" here in CM. They nearly died from boredom. Loss of smell for a few days was their only shared symptom, no fever, no cough,no headache...and no vaccination. The general consensus among those we know who have also had 'The Vid' (recently) is that they have gone out of their minds for the last 2yrs over what has turned out to be a pretty punk-ass virus — they were all treated early with antivirals, which may have  made all the difference of it progressing and entering the lungs.

I tested (-) and spent 14-days eating 3-free meals a day in "homi-stay"- bliss!

 

The point being; the elephant in the room that is being totally ignored is that covid uncovered just how sick people generally are. Western society is a lifestyle disease. Overworked, over-stressed, malnourished, rampant self-treatment (alcohol & drugs) and a river in Africa called "denial".

Its not the virus that kills you, its your own immune system.

 

The history of every respiratory pandemic is that it turns into an endemic flu and cold-causer within a year or two even without any intervention of any sort.  The 1918 pandemic did so, the 1890s pandemic believed to be caused by a beta coronavirus (of the same general family as Covid) did so and so have many, many others.

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by LetsGoJoe

[D M G]

Entertaining and ACCURATE!

[pomchop]

5 hours ago, talahtnut said:

Google: Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt.

 

On Monday,20/9/2021 in the pathological institute in Reutlingen (Germany), the results of the autopsies of eight people who died after covid-19 vaccination were presented. The fine tissue analyses were performed by pathologists Prof. Dr. Arne Burkhardt and Prof. Dr. Walter Lang. The findings confirm Prof. Dr. Peter Schirmacher’s finding that among more than 40 corpses he autopsied who had died within two weeks of covid-19 vaccination, approximately one-third of those deaths were caused by the vaccination. Microscopic details of the tissue changes were shown during the live-streamed press conference. Prof. Dr. Werner Bergholz  reported on the current parameters of the statistical recording of vaccination events.

more bs     https://www.npr.org/2021/03/25/980035707/lying-through-truth-misleading-facts-fuel-vaccine-misinformation

[Thunglom]

I'd say the OP shows signs of 

"Borderline personality disorder (BPD) can cause a wide range of symptoms, which can be broadly grouped into 4 main areas.

The 4 areas are:

• emotional instability – the psychological term for this is "affective dysregulation"
• disturbed patterns of thinking or perception – "cognitive distortions" or "perceptual distortions"
• impulsive behaviour
• intense but unstable relationships with others" - NHS

 

however when it comes to Boris - the term would be gaslighting..... Boris "one step behind" Johnson has been lying to the general public since before Brexit. He, like Trump has worked out that you can say whatever you like and it will never come back on you.

 

 

Edited December 13, 2021 by Thunglom

[Scott]

An post with unsubstantiated claims and no link to a credible source has been removed as has an off-topic, conspiracy post.  

 

 

[kiwikeith]

11 hours ago, LetsGoJoe said:

Thanks for that.

Obviously, CoVid-19 has dealt out a nastier form of voodoo for some than the "common-cold" could ever muster.

The premise is that an RNA virus, be it cold, flu or a more serious strain, is inherently slippery and evades the clutches of a "vaccine" for reasons denoted. Regardless of it's voodoo they are all still fundamentally an RNA-virus.

 

Recently, my wife and 2 young kids tested (+) and spent 10-days in the "hospi-tel" here in CM. They nearly died from boredom. Loss of smell for a few days was their only shared symptom, no fever, no cough,no headache...and no vaccination. The general consensus among those we know who have also had 'The Vid' (recently) is that they have gone out of their minds for the last 2yrs over what has turned out to be a pretty punk-ass virus — they were all treated early with antivirals, which may have  made all the difference of it progressing and entering the lungs.

I tested (-) and spent 14-days eating 3-free meals a day in "homi-stay"- bliss!

 

The point being; the elephant in the room that is being totally ignored is that covid uncovered just how sick people generally are. Western society is a lifestyle disease. Overworked, over-stressed, malnourished, rampant self-treatment (alcohol & drugs) and a river in Africa called "denial".

Its not the virus that kills you, its your own immune system.

 

The history of every respiratory pandemic is that it turns into an endemic flu and cold-causer within a year or two even without any intervention of any sort.  The 1918 pandemic did so, the 1890s pandemic believed to be caused by a beta coronavirus (of the same general family as Covid) did so and so have many, many others.

 

Just to add a bit of info just came out on RNZN news today, was that 100% of covid cases in hospital as of todays figures are either Maori or Pacifica, no European cases for several days, then add into this what they did not say, they never reported what age they were or if they were overweight or had existing conditions such as diabetes which is very high in these people.

Why? diet is the main reason they tend to be overweight from consuming soft drinks , fat foods corned brisket, boiled up pork legs ect and fast foods, they have a huge overweight problem.

Not only amongst older people but younger people tend to get overweight before they are teens.

Dr's are reporting that these conditions can make covid recovery difficult ,longer or requiring ICU and oxygen.

Of the latest covid deaths in NZ (2) were in their 90's one unvaccinated and the other double vaccinated, nothing was said of race or comorbidities.

So info is mixed up and statistics could be made much clearer, these are all Delta at present as Omicron has not entered NZ yet.

 

But one thing sticks out here, the fit and well are not requiring hospitalization and can isolate at home, many without any treatment.

That might even get better if Omicron keeps going the same way its going in SA.

Fingers crossed.

[brianthainess]

Just one week without mentioning <deleted> Scrabble would make a refreshing change. Favourite columnist ? your having a tin bath mate. 

[pizzachang]

On 12/11/2021 at 10:44 PM, Peabody said:

"Admitted"? Sounds like you need to learn how vaccines work.

 

"All attendees must be fully inoculated and have tested negative, using a rapid antigen kit, within the 72 hours prior to attending the event. The same requirements are applied to event organizers, staff and musicians." Requirements for attending a New Year's countdown event.  This does not sound like any post-flu inoculation requirements. Or any other, that I've ever heard of. Especially in light of all the available data on the survival rates, which age and health groups actually suffer, and the fact that it's been two years into this and what has changed? The "field hospitals" are shut down, never having reached any "capacity" - regular hospital's "cases" were mandatory because of a positive test, not based on sickness.  Am I wrong? Appreciate the input.

[Peabody]

On 12/11/2021 at 10:58 AM, talahtnut said:

That is most interesting, please tell us how you think vaccines work.

Doubt my creds? Here's the first page of a paper on which I'm a co-author. Notice that it's in the JOURNAL OF FRIG*IN IMMUNOLOGY.

15 Journal of Immunology Paper.pdf

[BritManToo]

On 12/11/2021 at 10:44 PM, Peabody said:

"Admitted"? Sounds like you need to learn how vaccines work.

As far as I can see the COVID vaccines don't work.

If they did, vaccinated people wouldn't be catching or spreading COVID.

[Peabody]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As far as I can see the COVID vaccines don't work.

If they did, vaccinated people wouldn't be catching or spreading COVID.

Maybe you and Totalnut can enroll in a basic science class. Maybe get a discount for 2.

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, Peabody said:

Maybe you and Totalnut can enroll in a basic science class. Maybe get a discount for 2.

I have a degree in science, what degree do you have?

Edited December 14, 2021 by BritManToo

[Peabody]

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I have a degree in science, what degree do you have?

See 3 posts above and guess.

[BostonRob2]

2 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Just one week without mentioning <deleted> Scrabble would make a refreshing change. Favourite columnist ? your having a tin bath mate. 

 

[adam1]

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Edited December 14, 2021 by adam1
trying to reply to a specific comment but can't work out how to do it

[adam1]

25 minutes ago, roo860 said:

You certainly don't want people having masks with sex on!!!!

????????????????

haha, that'll teach me to post before coffee

[zzaa09]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

As far as I can see the COVID vaccines don't work.

If they did, vaccinated people wouldn't be catching or spreading COVID.

There are also the strong suggestions that Covid, and it's numerous variant offspring, isn't as nasty as we've been repeatedly told that it might be. Two years of simple observation might be a clue. 

Wonder if the fatality numbers would be any different - with/without vaccine or with/without standard mitigation protocol. 

[Saanim]

On 12/13/2021 at 4:01 PM, jacko45k said:

That link does not confirm it.....

In the link https://www.bbc.com/news/57932699 is spoken about that: 

As the debate continues over the origins of the coronavirus, a heated political battle is taking place over virus research carried out in China using US funds.

There are many other links where you can find the confirmation.

 

[ChoakMyDee]

On 12/12/2021 at 12:09 PM, bougnat said:

Better late than never. It will have taken you 2 years to understand but how many more on this site which come to praise these puppet vaccines, tetanized by the fear innoculated by the media of the whole world. And those who imagine that a piece of acrylic fabric, a bib, as waterproof as a sponge, protects them like a bulwark against viruses ... The propaganda has done much more damage than this miserable virus and the generations to come will have something to laugh about this ambient madness which turns people into docile sheep. The contagion of this collective madness is much more dangerous for the freedom of peoples, current freedoms and especially to come. To meditate ; during the trial of the Nazi leaders in Nurember, a judge asked Goring how he had been able to lead an entire people into Nazism. Answer by H Goring "it was enough to scare people"

What's mind-boggling is that the western countries are spearheading this mass murderous psychosis. It's not tin-pot dictatorships, it's the countries who purport to be the world leaders of freedom and democracy...UK, Oz, Canada, NZ, USA, Europe. I had to flee Canada. If I were still there I would be unable to leave. Somebody pinch me please and wake me up from this nightmare! 

[roo860]

19 hours ago, adam1 said:

haha, that'll teach me to post before coffee

Have a beer instead!

????

[ChoakMyDee]

18 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Yeah, just read how a USA woman won a court case to allow her Covid ailing husband to get this.... he died still.

Early treatment is key.

[BostonRob2]

19 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Yeah, just read how a USA woman won a court case to allow her Covid ailing husband to get this.... he died still.

Most people die still, it's when they start moving it's a worry.

[brianthainess]

On 12/14/2021 at 9:21 AM, BritManToo said:

I have a degree in science, what degree do you have?

Did you get it in Thailand ? 

[pizzachang]

On 12/14/2021 at 9:17 AM, BritManToo said:

As far as I can see the COVID vaccines don't work.

If they did, vaccinated people wouldn't be catching or spreading COVID.

Most of us "understand how vaccines work". These new "vaccines" are not vaccines , in any traditional sense. Do these new ones use killed or weakened virus, to stimulate the "immune" system? The older types certainly did not come with all the caveats of these RNA drugs. I've had countless vaccines of the traditional variety - from smallpox on to bubonic plague and yellow fever, typhoid, etc. None of them required masking, isolation, or unreasonable fear of infection.  Virologists and other doctors, don't even agree on this RNA drug. Which, by the way is unprecedented by "emergency approval" and protection from lawsuits. And, to repeat published findings, which age/health condition 'groups' are dying?  I only, personally know, 1 person who has died - 85 years old, family member , who had other, serious issues. I know far more people personally, who weren't even aware they "had IT" until testing; needless to say, "recovered" is an understatement, since "sickness" was not how they felt.

[Cabradelmar]

I'm less skeptical of the viruses existence, and its continued evolution. However, it would appear we have currently reached our limits with regards to what vaccines can do to stop this particular pandemic. We are all frustrated (on many different levels and for different reasons). If its true that vaccines simply reduce my risk of death (vs. preventing me from getting sick), I'll probably stay on that path (but even that path has limits). Let those we don't want the vax take the other path. And we all move forward together to whatever comes next. Honestly, the best thing that can happen now is someone develops a cheap, fast and accurate detection test to try to keep us all safe(r)... but as we say in sysdev... pick two, because you can't have all three.

[Saanim]

10 hours ago, pizzachang said:

These new "vaccines" are not vaccines , in any traditional sense. Do these new ones use killed or weakened virus, to stimulate the "immune" system? T

They are rather some kind of antibiotics that are to be administered regularly in certain time frame, every 6 months, like the antibiotics every 6 hours...

 

Then, some will joke like at the flu: "There is a difference at the flu whether taking antibiotics or not: with AB it takes 7 days, w/o it takes a week"