NCB warns public that you can't grow marijuana for recreational use despite drug being left off new codes

[webfact]

Picture: Thai Rath

 

The spokesman for the Narcotics Control Board has warned the Thai public that it is still illegal to grow marijuana for recreational drug use. 

 

Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul rose to power on a platform of legalization - but this has fallen well short of public expectations. 

 

Piyasiri Wattavarankul's comments come after the drug's name was left off new codes announced on December 9th 2021, reported Thai Rath. 

 

Marijuana was previously mentioned by name as a Class 5 narcotic. 

 

Now the new code merely says that "Class 5 is a drug not mentioned in Classes 1-4".

 

These are hard drugs like coke and heroin and others.

 

The only ganja that can be grown are plants that contain minimal amounts of the substance that makes you high, THC.

 

Only 0.2 is allowed - pointless as a narcotic. 

 

Even then permission must be sought with regional health authorities and growers must register in community schemes to supply the CBD oil for medicinal and research use. 

 

The leaves - that contain no THC - have become a fad as a food or food decoration over the last year.

 

Health minister and DPM Anutin's  Bhumjaithai party rose to join government power on a manifesto of allowing each household to grow six plants.

 

Candidate billboards featuring the ganja leaf at a general election astounded Thais used to draconian laws in the kingdom.

 

The reality of what some people had hoped in the growing of the plant has been very different to the political promises put out by Anutin as construed by the public, notes ASEAN NOW.

 

He said it would be an economic boon for householders. Critics are now saying that it is just a law change that favors big business and the elite. 

 

True legalization - especially for recreational users - remains completely out of reach.

 

The only certainty if caught with ganja is heavy fines or even jail terms. 

 

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[RandiRona]

Again that is right of only esteemed government!!

[JustAnotherHun]

Only the government can take care of a national heritage.

[WEBBYB808]

But so much of the CBD in this country sold is fake.  You cant get CBD from adding leaves to a cup of coffee.  You cant get CBD from boiling it.  CBD is extracted in an oil form.  I see so many buying coffee and drinks in Thailand  thinking they are getting CBD.  they are getting scammed.

[smedly]

The reason for this is that only certain people can profit from the market - all about the money and who is controlling distribution - not hard to figure out the people who want a monopoly on this eclusive market 

 

It is either illegal or legal it cannpt be both

[worgeordie]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Now the new code merely says that "Class 5 is a drug not mentioned in Classes 1-4".

Thai logic at it's best , why would 5 be mentioned in something 1 - 4 .

I knew when it was said it was been legalized and you could grow 4

plants, but not let them flower , there would be a BUT. 

regards worgeordie

[Broken Record]

If Alcohol wasn't taxed, what class would it be ?

 

I say Class 1.

[mtls2005]

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul rose to power on a platform of legalization - but this has fallen well short of public expectations. 

"California model". <cough>

[WEBBYB808]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

The reason for this is that only certain people can profit from the market - all about the money and who is controlling distribution - not hard to figure out the people who want a monopoly on this eclusive market 

 

It is either illegal or legal it cannpt be both

Plenty cafe's and coffee shops are making profit on this.  Boiling leaves in water and telling the customers they are getting CBD.  Impossible 

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

The reason for this is that only certain people can profit from the market - all about the money and who is controlling distribution - not hard to figure out the people who want a monopoly on this eclusive market 

 

It is either illegal or legal it cannpt be both

I don't think you can grow tobacco or brew alcohol either, both legal drugs.

[mtls2005]

4 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I don't think you can grow tobacco or brew alcohol either, both legal drugs.

 

Both the relevant statutes, Narcotics Act 2522 (1979) and the Psychotropic Substances Act 2518 (1975) cover production, distribution and use of drugs as defined (cat. 1 -5)  in those acts.

 

Special exemptions have been made for the production of Cannabis, hemp, kratom. With further delineations within the cannabis designation. And some forms of cannabis (THC content less than 0.2%) and kratom can be consumed.

 

Net net you can't grow or use cannabis without government approval and oversight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jollyhangmon]

6 minutes ago, giddyup said:

I don't think you can grow tobacco or brew alcohol either, both legal drugs.

 

... depends on local regulation, 25 years ago the tobacco-monopolised Austria for example allowed 5 tobacco plants per person without declaration/taxation, don't know if that changed meanwhile. 

 

Producing high proof alc - the 'burned (distilled) and double burned Schnapps' - is controlled by checking on the declared distilling equipment, I believe there's just a couple litres you can (legally, cough-cough) produce out of your garden before getting massively taxed for it.

 

==> But here's the background to this here NCB no-grow warning story:

 

https://www.matichon.co.th/politics/news_3125116

 

Google translated ... well, more or less ... :

 

 

 

 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

But so much of the CBD in this country sold is fake.  You cant get CBD from adding leaves to a cup of coffee.  You cant get CBD from boiling it.  CBD is extracted in an oil form.  I see so many buying coffee and drinks in Thailand  thinking they are getting CBD.  they are getting scammed.

That's potheads for you!

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

The reason for this is that only certain people can profit from the market - all about the money and who is controlling distribution - not hard to figure out the people who want a monopoly on this eclusive market 

 

It is either illegal or legal it cannpt be both

It is illegal to cultivate it for recreational use.  

[Liverpool Lou]

27 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

"Crazy Happy Pizza has been available at all of The Pizza Company’s branches in Thailand, but sales have been lackluster, according to Panusak. It has faced several handicaps — it cannot legally be advertised or sold to anyone under the age of 12. He estimates that when the company ends its sales promotion on Tuesday, it will have to throw away about a fifth of the cannabis leaves it acquired".

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/food/2021/11/29/thai-chains-cannabis-pizza-trendy-but-wont-get-you-high/

[Denim]

18 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's potheads for you!

No. That's ' wanna be naughty ' pseudo potheads for you. 

 

A real pot head would never fall such a ludicrous scam.

[RichardColeman]

hope they never legalise smoking of it. They cannot handle alcohol without killing 20,000 of each other on the roads every year

[daveAustin]

Pathetic, like everything else. Mind you my country is as equally pathetic when it comes to this. All these F’ers are interested in doing is cultivating nice little unfeeling automatons so they don’t upset the feeding of the machine. 

[pokerface1]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

hope they never legalise smoking of it. They cannot handle alcohol without killing 20,000 of each other on the roads every year

Obviously you haven't smoked pot 555

From what I've seen and heard it slows you down to drive like an old woman. Which has got to be safer than driving at high speed as they often do here.  

[JustAnotherHun]

4 hours ago, WEBBYB808 said:

 CBD is extracted in an oil form.

Nearly all Cannabis strains contain CBD, most of them in a very low percentage. It has not to be extracted for use.

[thaichina]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

hope they never legalise smoking of it. They cannot handle alcohol without killing 20,000 of each other on the roads every year

Don t worry, alcohol is a nasty drug, much more dangerous than pot. Not even close...

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, RandiRona said:

Again that is right of only esteemed government!!

You can grow it but you must give it to the masters to make the profit.

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's potheads for you!

Do you drink alcohol ? much much worse that 'pot'

[rwill]

Last weekend we went to Singburi to see the Caladium market they have on Sunday.  There was one vendor that had marijuana plants for sale.  They were about 2 feet tall.

[brianthainess]

Well that's that boys we won't vote for him again.

[aussienam]

12 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

hope they never legalise smoking of it. They cannot handle alcohol without killing 20,000 of each other on the roads every year

Sad but true.  Unless the police force modernized, had stricter laws, far better enforcement and was able to conduct roadside drug testing alongside breath testing, then fully legalizing cannabis will only cause more deaths and carnage from irresponsible people.  

Drug driving is a big issue already. 

[Meat Pie 47]

16 minutes ago, aussienam said:

Sad but true.  Unless the police force modernized, had stricter laws, far better enforcement and was able to conduct roadside drug testing alongside breath testing, then fully legalizing cannabis will only cause more deaths and carnage from irresponsible people.  

Drug driving is a big issue already. 

Yes in OZ it is more people get charged for driving under the influence of drugs

[Liverpool Lou]

15 hours ago, brianthainess said:

18 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's potheads for you!

Do you drink alcohol ? much much worse that 'pot'

That's just your opinion and the amount of alcohol consumed is relevant.

[RubbaJohnny]

19 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Both the relevant statutes, Narcotics Act 2522 (1979) and the Psychotropic Substances Act 2518 (1975) cover production, distribution and use of drugs as defined (cat. 1 -5)  in those acts.

 

Special exemptions have been made for the production of Cannabis, hemp, kratom. With further delineations within the cannabis designation. And some forms of cannabis (THC content less than 0.2%) and kratom can be consumed.

 

Net net you can't grow or use cannabis without government approval and oversight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mmm problem may be you get the munchies and just keep ordering more and more Happy Pizza.

 

What could possibly go Bong? Luckily the people in charge are not dopes.

[mtls2005]

21 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Luckily the people in charge are not dopes.

Debatable.

 

21 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

keep ordering more and more Happy Pizza

and a salad.