Thai police are doing a wonderful job - stop blaming us for everything or face jail, says RTP spokesman

[maddox41]

Dont you love it... 

A country where you cant give a bad review on a <deleted> Hotel or bad  food ???? to jail for you? 

Now this ????  having his say he has to be related to Anutin 16 th cousin or something. 

The Country that never excepts blame for their actions. 

[jerrymahoney]

22 hours ago, webfact said:

Pol Maj-Gen Yingyot Thepjamnong said that the RTP were doing an absolutely wonderful job solving crime, investigating wrong doing and generally catching the bad guys. 

 

Well I am only using a Google translate but nowhere in the original linked Siam Rath article does it even come close to saying this. The closest is:

 

"Pol Maj. Gen. Yingyot said that the police are on duty to prevent and suppress crime. for safety and facilitate the people This may create dissatisfaction with those who break the law. Until the point of insulting or using vulgar words, speaking insults, insulting the police officers who have performed such duties, which in many cases the court has already sentenced."

 

[NoshowJones]

On 1/13/2022 at 11:34 AM, richard_smith237 said:

This says all it needs to about what is wrong with policing in Thailand.....

 

.... juvenile ego’s who simply have no concept of reality beyond the combination of their own greed, apathy and sense of entitlement.... 

 

 

The RTP and the guys with their fancy paid for ranks are doing a good job, posing in their nice uniforms, and polishing their medals, the rest of their bling, and nothing else.

[jerrymahoney]

This has to be about the worst translation of a Thai news article onto AN/TV but that hasn't stopped the AN/TV faithful from spewing the same old critiques of the RTP even though those critiques really have nothing to do with the content of the Thai language version in the OP.

[The Hammer2021]

17 hours ago, sbf said:

Many people on this forum have lived here long enough to have had a number of interactions with the RTP. The fact that there are few rushing to their defence seems to suggest that these interactions are perhaps not as favorable as the good General maintains. My personal score is 5-1, not in their favor I would add.

 

I have lived and worked on four continents in my lifetime. I have never had anything but positive things to say in any of those other countries regarding my personal interactions with their respective police forces. 

Many people on this forum have actually spent little time here in Thailand and have had no interaction  with Thai  police  but just get their  opinions  from ill informed repetitive clichés on forums. Undoubtedly there are problems  here but nothing like in the USA where racist murders and assaults have caused upheavals in society  that have reverberated around the world. Recent reports  into the British  police including rapes and the still unresolved  headless body  murder point to systemic  corruption in the London  Metropolitan  Police. Combined with their miserable  success rate at solving  crime, their virtue signalling rainbow bootlace stunts and their stalking of free speech on line have led to a widespread  loss of faith in the British  police. Yes the Thai police have many problems  and could improve  but so could many other police  forces. But importantly the RTP could teach a lot to other police  forces around the world.  I would bet that 99% of forum members who malign the RTP have had no dealings with them at all. None at all..

[Broken Record]

40 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Many people on this forum have actually spent little time here in Thailand 

Totally agree.

[FunkyDunky58]

And so Thailand sinks ever closer to a fascist state. 

[Bkk Brian]

ssssshhh..........Vorayudh Yoovidhya, Red Bull heir

[The Hammer2021]

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

ssssshhh..........Vorayudh Yoovidhya, Red Bull heir

The victim was a policeman who was killed whilst on duty and was killed in the performance  of his duty by a hit and run driver.

[Broken Record]

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

ssssshhh..........Vorayudh Yoovidhya, Red Bull heir

He comes from a very influential family that will have ties at the very top, of course he wouldn't have gone to jail, the family of the deceased policeman would have received a substantial pay out in exchange for not pushing for Boss to be prosecuted.

The Family have been satisfied, a Billionaire has paid out some money, it's the way things are.

 

If a Farang had been in the same position as Boss and had the means to pay the family off and whoever else they needed to pay to avoid prosecution, they would have done the same.

 

Of course, ThaiVisa's Billionaire members would have refused to pay and got life in jail, because they believe in doing the right thing, haha, right, of course they would..................

 

Edited January 14, 2022 by Broken Record

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The victim was a policeman who was killed whilst on duty and was killed in the performance  of his duty by a hit and run driver.

I know who the victim was but whats that got to do with the police corruption behind Vorayudh Yoovidhya escape and lack of extradition. Proves they additionally have no honour among themselves. Very sad and a prime example.

[VBF]

On 1/13/2022 at 4:46 AM, smedly said:

You are forgetting the part were you are public servants - your salaries are paid for by the public - they have every right to demand a highly proffessional service and criticise when they do not get it - putting on your police state show of contempt is not helpful

 

Get on with your public service and earn respect not try to demand or force it.

And....police by consent, sorry....TIT!

[Broken Record]

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I know who the victim was but whats that got to do with the police corruption behind Vorayudh Yoovidhya escape and lack of extradition. Proves they additionally have no honour among themselves. Very sad and a prime example.

And was it you driving that Ferrari that night, and were you a Billionaire able to use that wealth to pay off the family and whoever else to ensure your freedom from prosecution, you would have refused to  pay people off, you would have refused the advice of your army of lawyers and turned yourself in and demanded to be taken to Jail ?

 

 

[The Hammer2021]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I know who the victim was but whats that got to do with the police corruption behind Vorayudh Yoovidhya escape and lack of extradition. Proves they additionally have no honour among themselves. Very sad and a prime example.

The dark forces behind this travesty are probably civilian or at least not police and the situation  indicates the police lack of  power in the face of established corrupt  powers. I imagine most RTP are sickened by the lack of justice granted to one of their own.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, The Hammer2021 said:

The dark forces behind this travesty are probably civilian or at least not police and the situation  indicates the police lack of  power in the face of established corrupt  powers. I imagine most RTP are sickened by the lack of justice granted to one of their own.

Yes the prosecutors dept is alleged to be one of those dark forces involved in the corruption along with the some of their own police:

 

NACC says 4 officers failed to seek an arrest warrant… Wiradol, along with former chief of the station Chumphol Phumphuang as well as the station’s interrogators Samrit Ketyam and Wibul Thinwatanakul.

The NACC says 3 officers failed to guarantee a thorough investigation and interrogation in the case. The former commander of the Metropolitan Police Division 5 Krit Piakaew and the division’s former deputy commanders Sukhun Phrommai and Tramet Uthai.

[Broken Record]

My mate got stopped at a Police checkpoint, checking his alcohol level he failed miserably, he was able to walk to an ATM get money, pay people off, and drive home.

 

He stated that he was glad of Police corruption in Thailand, in his own country he would have been screwed.

 

If you have lived in Thailand for any period and driven in Thailand and got stopped for speeding, how many here are glad of the opportunity to give a few hundred Baht and be on your way ?

 

If you had the opportunity to buy yourself out of really serious charges, you would do it, and if you say any different, you're lying.

 

ThaiVisa membership or not........you'd pay !

 

 

Edited January 14, 2022 by Broken Record

[Bkk Brian]

9 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

And was it you driving that Ferrari that night, and were you a Billionaire able to use that wealth to pay off the family and whoever else to ensure your freedom from prosecution, you would have refused to  pay people off, you would have refused the advice of your army of lawyers and turned yourself in and demanded to be taken to Jail ?

Hypothetical nonsense that has nothing to do with the corruption in this case.

[Broken Record]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Hypothetical nonsense that has nothing to do with the corruption in this case.

You know nothing about the Corruption, his family are so powerful, it would be impossible to prosecute him, it goes to the very top, the police are powerless and so are prosecutors, he is untouchable.

Edited January 14, 2022 by Broken Record

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

You know nothing about the Corruption, his family are so powerful, it would be impossible to prosecute him, it goes to the very top, the police are powerless and so are prosecutors, he is untouchable.

Yes I know he's untouchable thank you for proving my point

[Rimmer]

An inflammatory post has been removed

[Broken Record]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes I know he's untouchable thank you for proving my point

You had a point ?  

 

Well if I endorsed it, you're welcome.

[Broken Record]

Any future misdemeanor I may have with the Police and they offer to let me be on my way for 200 Baht for going over the Speed limit for instance, I'll flash my ThaiVisa membership card at them and demand they take me to the station for full fine payment, I'll show em !!

 

 

[sbf]

19 minutes ago, Broken Record said:

Any future misdemeanor I may have with the Police and they offer to let me be on my way for 200 Baht for going over the Speed limit for instance, I'll flash my ThaiVisa membership card at them and demand they take me to the station for full fine payment, I'll show em !!

 

 

All well and good, you have been caught speeding, you cop a small roadside payment or make it official and go pay a slightly larger one at the station, your choice. However what if you were being wrongfully accused of some driving misdemeanor and a much more substantial payment demanded say 50,000 as has happened to me here, would you still be happy to pay up? 

[richard_smith237]

6 minutes ago, sbf said:

you were being wrongfully accused of some driving misdemeanor and a much more substantial payment demanded say 50,000 as has happened to me here, would you still be happy to pay up? 

Sounds like this thread could become more interesting..... 

 

.... come on... do tell....  what were you wrongly accused of ????

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Broken Record said:

My mate got stopped at a Police checkpoint, checking his alcohol level he failed miserably, he was able to walk to an ATM get money, pay people off, and drive home.

I had a second small can of beer the other day......    upon opening the beer I commented that I was ‘breaking my own rule’... a friend asked if I’d dare do that in the UK.... ‘absolutely not’ was my obvious answer. 

 

In the UK we don’t flirt with such laws for the very clear reasons whereas here, its not the laws that stops me drink driving. 

 

1 hour ago, Broken Record said:

He stated that he was glad of Police corruption in Thailand, in his own country he would have been screwed.

This very same ‘police corruption’ is complicit in road deaths nation wide. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Broken Record said:

If you have lived in Thailand for any period and driven in Thailand and got stopped for speeding, how many here are glad of the opportunity to give a few hundred Baht and be on your way ?

Of course... I have a good handful of speeding fines (133 kmh in 120 kmh zones etc).

I was fined in the UK for 33mph in a 30 mph zone £100 and 3 points !!! - I drive like miss daisy in the UK...  whereas here I just drive !

 

 

1 hour ago, Broken Record said:

If you had the opportunity to buy yourself out of really serious charges, you would do it, and if you say any different, you're lying.

Absolutely I’d buy my way out of any serious charges if I could.

But, in the UK I do not get close to such charges because the law and effectiveness of the enforcement is sufficient for me not to break such laws. 

 

1 hour ago, Broken Record said:

ThaiVisa membership or not........you'd pay !

Or ‘phone a friend’...... 

 

 

A lot of what is described is the very cause for a lot of the issues and lawlessness.... 

 

When people can simply pay their way out of trouble, even for serious crimes, where is the incentive not to commit them ????

[Golden Triangle]

On 1/13/2022 at 4:27 PM, Zozod said:

Something I’ve learned since moving here:  be careful criticizing or else pay a price.  It doesn’t matter who.  

And pray tell how they will find anonymous posters behind a made up username using a VPN going through a website located in another country ?

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts and the replies have been removed.

[rudi49jr]

4 hours ago, Broken Record said:

My mate got stopped at a Police checkpoint, checking his alcohol level he failed miserably, he was able to walk to an ATM get money, pay people off, and drive home.

So you’re okay with someone who is intoxicated being allowed to drive home? What if he had caused an accident and had killed someone because he was drunk? 

[KKr]

Motion put forward from my side,
in order to decrease the CO2 foot print and other harmful impact :
Only paper bags allowed in the office. 

[Broken Record]

2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

So you’re okay with someone who is intoxicated being allowed to drive home? What if he had caused an accident and had killed someone because he was drunk? 

What if he was abducted by Aliens, and dropped off in the middle of the Gobi desert?