Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[Mavideol]

56 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You mean the Russians thought they were good at war. They were mistaken

couldn't said it better and death numbers back you up....

Almost 100,000 Russian soldiers killed in war, Ukraine says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/almost-100000-russian-soldiers-killed-in-war-ukraine-says-180208808.html

[Mavideol]

and things for the Orcs are going from bad to worse, great job.... let's imagine what Ukraine could do to the Orcs if they had the correct tools and a little more help from Santa

Christmas miracle: Russian MiG on fire in Belarus

https://www.yahoo.com/news/christmas-miracle-russian-mig-fire-145040279.html

 

[bannork]

The professor poses a worrisome question. If Russia nukes Ukraine, US and Nato policy ( according to retired General Petraeus) would be to destroy all Russian forces in Ukraine and destroy Russia's fleet in the Black Sea. 

Then Russia may consider itself at war with NATO and WW3 begins 

So what to do? 

Arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons and inform the Russians is my input 

 

 

[Saanim]

39 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

couldn't said it better and death numbers back you up....

Almost 100,000 Russian soldiers killed in war, Ukraine says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/almost-100000-russian-soldiers-killed-in-war-ukraine-says-180208808.html

The same figure we could learn from EC President Ursula vdL about the other side of the war. (However, it was later retracted somehow...)  

[Saanim]

28 minutes ago, bannork said:

The professor poses a worrisome question. If Russia nukes Ukraine, US and Nato policy ( according to retired General Petraeus) would be to destroy all Russian forces in Ukraine and destroy Russia's fleet in the Black Sea. 

Then Russia may consider itself at war with NATO and WW3 begins 

It does not need so much - nor the nukes - for the WW3 beginning. Wasn't it recently quite at the edge when the Ukraine missile landed in Poland, killing 2 farmers?  

[nauseus]

27 minutes ago, bannork said:

The professor poses a worrisome question. If Russia nukes Ukraine, US and Nato policy ( according to retired General Petraeus) would be to destroy all Russian forces in Ukraine and destroy Russia's fleet in the Black Sea. 

Then Russia may consider itself at war with NATO and WW3 begins 

So what to do? 

Arm Ukraine with nuclear weapons and inform the Russians is my input 

 

 

The Russians would not need to be informed - they would know anyway - and any siting of nuclear weapons would be destroyed long before they were a threat.  

[Bkk Brian]

27 minutes ago, Saanim said:

The same figure we could learn from EC President Ursula vdL about the other side of the war. (However, it was later retracted somehow...)  

(However, it was later retracted somehow...) 

 

It was corrected with an explanation from Deputy chief spokeswoman "The estimation used, from external sources, should have referred to casualties, i.e. both killed and injured, and was meant to show Russia‘s brutality."

 

Always good to see when mistakes are made they are admitted to.

[Bkk Brian]

25 minutes ago, Saanim said:

It does not need so much - nor the nukes - for the WW3 beginning. Wasn't it recently quite at the edge when the Ukraine missile landed in Poland, killing 2 farmers?  

False equivalence. Nuke missiles will use GPS or in the case of Russia GLONASS at a static target. The missile that landed accidentally in Poland was a SAM which must track, home in on and hit a high-speed target that may be changing direction. Far more error for mistake.

[rudi49jr]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Encouragement to fight, Russian style.........................

 

 

That SOB is a prime candidate to being fragged by one of his own troops, and I wouldn’t blame the guy who did it. What an absolute pos. 

[Saanim]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

False equivalence. Nuke missiles will use GPS or in the case of Russia GLONASS at a static target. The missile that landed accidentally in Poland was a SAM which must track, home in on and hit a high-speed target that may be changing direction. Far more error for mistake.

False equivalence? Quite a big excitement and embarrassment of some. And that a signal to WW3 was recognized by not so few? 

Anyway, a deafening silence since that...

Similarly as of the "sabotage" of the gas pipelines  - but perhaps also a "false equivalence? 

[rudi49jr]

Russia is ready to negotiate with all parties involved in the war in Ukraine but Kyiv and its Western backers have refused to engage in talks, President Vladimir Putin said in an interview aired on Sunday.

An adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Putin needed to return to reality and acknowledge it was Russia which did not want talks. 
"Russia single-handedly attacked Ukraine and is killing citizens," the adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, tweeted. "Russia doesn't want negotiations, but tries to avoid responsibility."

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-russia-ready-negotiate-over-ukraine-2022-12-25/

 

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Saanim said:

False equivalence? Quite a big excitement and embarrassment of some. And that a signal to WW3 was recognized by not so few? 

Anyway, a deafening silence since that...

Similarly as of the "sabotage" of the gas pipelines  - but perhaps also a "false equivalence? 

False equivalence to a nuclear missile error which is almost impossible unlike a SAM. Nothing to do with the pipeline.

[Saanim]

36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

(However, it was later retracted somehow...) 

 

It was corrected with an explanation from Deputy chief spokeswoman "The estimation used, from external sources, should have referred to casualties, i.e. both killed and injured, and was meant to show Russia‘s brutality."

 

Always good to see when mistakes are made they are admitted to.

Ukraine Anger Over Von Der Leyen's Unverified '100,000 Dead Soldiers' Claim

Ukraine has hit back at a claim by the European Commission's president that 100,000 of Kyiv's troops have been killed since Russia's invasion in February

Ursula von der Leyen used the number in a video address, prompting Kyiv's armed forces to state that the death toll was "classified information." Footage of her speech has since been edited to cut the reference.

In Russia, the state-owned news agency Tass was among the media outlets to seize on the high figure and to say the European Commission had "removed information about 100,000 dead Ukrainian servicemen."

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-von-der-leyen-death-toll-1763553

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Saanim said:

Ukraine Anger Over Von Der Leyen's Unverified '100,000 Dead Soldiers' Claim

Ukraine has hit back at a claim by the European Commission's president that 100,000 of Kyiv's troops have been killed since Russia's invasion in February

Ursula von der Leyen used the number in a video address, prompting Kyiv's armed forces to state that the death toll was "classified information." Footage of her speech has since been edited to cut the reference.

In Russia, the state-owned news agency Tass was among the media outlets to seize on the high figure and to say the European Commission had "removed information about 100,000 dead Ukrainian servicemen."

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-von-der-leyen-death-toll-1763553

 

Like I already said: Dana Spinant Deputy chief spokeswoman and Director for Political Communication for @EU_Commission

 

 

https://twitter.com/DanaSpinant/status/1597895208582381569

 

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, Saanim said:

Ukraine Anger Over Von Der Leyen's Unverified '100,000 Dead Soldiers' Claim

Ukraine has hit back at a claim by the European Commission's president that 100,000 of Kyiv's troops have been killed since Russia's invasion in February

Ursula von der Leyen used the number in a video address, prompting Kyiv's armed forces to state that the death toll was "classified information." Footage of her speech has since been edited to cut the reference.

In Russia, the state-owned news agency Tass was among the media outlets to seize on the high figure and to say the European Commission had "removed information about 100,000 dead Ukrainian servicemen."

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-von-der-leyen-death-toll-1763553

 

 really nothing else to challenge... what a sad life

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, Saanim said:

The same figure we could learn from EC President Ursula vdL about the other side of the war. (However, it was later retracted somehow...)  

and I think these ones were not included

Ukraine war: Drone attack on Russian bomber base leaves three dead

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-war-drone-attack-russian-061009079.html

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

Infighting between Russian mass murderer Igor Girkin who was one of the 3 found guilty of the Lockerbie plane strike and his threats to Vladimir Solovyov, one of Putin's chief propagandists on state TV:

 

Convicted mass murderer Igor Girkin has threatened one of the Kremlin’s top propagandists, Vladimir Solovyov, in a video shared on social media on Dec. 23.

Girkin, a Russian secret service agent who served as one of the main handlers for the Donetsk puppet authority, said that he wouldn’t allow Solovyov to flee Russia if the war was lost for the Russian side, the threat came following Solovyov mocking of Girkin for his alleged failures when Girkin was sent to the frontlines in Ukraine,  Solovyov said he "<deleted> off" and then fled back to Russia.

In turn, Girkin, who was recently convicted of mass murder for the deaths of the passengers on flight MH17, promised to make efforts to prevent the Russian propagandist from fleeing to Israel after the fall of the Kremlin regime.

"If our generals continue to fight like they did the last ten months, we have all chances to lose this war,” Girkin said.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/mass-murderer-girkin-threatens-kremlin-propagandist-solovyov-russia-news-50292957.html

 

 

 

[Social Media]

Latest updates on the war in Ukraine as officials say a Ukrainian drone was shot down over a Russian airbase, killing three; Kyiv set to call for Russia to be removed from the UN Security Council. Listen to the latest episode of Ukraine War Diaries while you scroll.

[Social Media]

Sky News

Ukraine has said Vladimir Putin "needs to come back to reality" in response to the Russian president's claim that he is ready to negotiate.

On a day which saw Russia launch rocket attacks on dozens of frontline towns, Mr Putin had told state broadcaster Rossiya 1 that the Kremlin was "ready to negotiate with everyone involved about acceptable solutions".

[Social Media]

 

[Tug]

9 minutes ago, Black Ops said:

Sky News

Ukraine has said Vladimir Putin "needs to come back to reality" in response to the Russian president's claim that he is ready to negotiate.

On a day which saw Russia launch rocket attacks on dozens of frontline towns, Mr Putin had told state broadcaster Rossiya 1 that the Kremlin was "ready to negotiate with everyone involved about acceptable solutions".

I’m sure they are willing to talk about reparations after Russia pulls out of (all)Ukraine and turns over all war criminals 

[bannork]

Well worth a read to grasp the background to the conflict.

 

[Social Media]

 

[tgw]

Putin ... is '100% sure' his forces can 'weed out' $6m anti-aircraft system

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11574175/Putin-vows-destroy-patriot-missile-systems-sent-Ukraine.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

 

err ... a patriot battery costs 1 Billion, not sure where they got their 6m figure from

[ExpatOilWorker]

[Bkk Brian]

Another out the window, they really need to learn to book into first or ground floor accommodation.............lol

 

Russian tycoon’s mystery death after criticism of Putin’s war in Ukraine

A Russian politician who publicly criticised President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine has been found dead.

Multi-millionaire Pavel Antov was celebrating his upcoming 66th birthday on holiday when he mysteriously fell from a hotel in India, with Russia’s consul general Alexei Idamkin saying he fell from a window, The Sun reports.

Mr Antov, listed as Russia’s richest elected politician in 2019, was found in a pool of blood in Rayagada, in the east of India, two days after another friend in his party died.

https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/russian-tycoons-mystery-death-after-criticism-of-putins-war-in-ukraine/news-story/4d2eff5e46d371b46a9da925f4914e4b

 

One of the richest deputies of Russia died in India This was reported by the NDTV. According to them, Antov died after falling from the third floor of the hotel on December 25. Antov was twice included in the Forbes list in 2019. His fortune was estimated at $150 million.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1607425817595764738

 

[Saanim]

19 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

False equivalence. Nuke missiles will use GPS or in the case of Russia GLONASS at a static target. The missile that landed accidentally in Poland was a SAM which must track, home in on and hit a high-speed target that may be changing direction. Far more error for mistake.

What an explanation of a harmless error for mistake...

Anyway, wondering why it was further claimed by Ukraine as being shot by Russia, further on and on even when Biden has already declared it differently.   

 

BTW, there were some alleged news (not proven) that it landed very close to a large warehouse with fertilizer that could have brought a huge explosion such as happened in Libanon 2 years ago. (but obviously a conspiracy theory...)

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Saanim said:

What an explanation of a harmless error for mistake...

Anyway, wondering why it was further claimed by Ukraine as being shot by Russia, further on and on even when Biden has already declared it differently.   

 

BTW, there were some alleged news (not proven) that it landed very close to a large warehouse with fertilizer that could have brought a huge explosion such as happened in Libanon 2 years ago. (but obviously a conspiracy theory...)

What part of false equivalence do you not understand? In addition when a SAM system engages a target, the debris from both the SAM and targeted missile falls in an unknown direction.

[Mavideol]

if he keeps killing all his critics (allies) he will be left with no one to trust.... one of them will do the same to him, the soon the better

A Russian critic of Putin died after falling out of a hotel window in India

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-critic-putin-died-falling-080000371.html

 

[rudi49jr]

On 12/26/2022 at 9:13 AM, rudi49jr said:

Russia is ready to negotiate with all parties involved in the war in Ukraine but Kyiv and its Western backers have refused to engage in talks, President Vladimir Putin said in an interview aired on Sunday.

An adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said Putin needed to return to reality and acknowledge it was Russia which did not want talks. 
"Russia single-handedly attacked Ukraine and is killing citizens," the adviser, Mykhailo Podolyak, tweeted. "Russia doesn't want negotiations, but tries to avoid responsibility."

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-russia-ready-negotiate-over-ukraine-2022-12-25/

 

Negotiating Russian style: Russian foreign minister Lavrov said Kyiv must accept Moscow’s demands for ending the war or else suffer defeat on the battlefield.

”Accept our demands, otherwise the issue will be decided by the Russian army”.

 

So much to being open to negotiations.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-idAFKBN2TB01G

Edited December 27, 2022 by rudi49jr