Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[rudi49jr]

Putin is a reckless, emotional leader who has boxed himself into a terrible information bubble.

 

 

[Social Media]

Russia is drawing up proposals to build its first production plant for suicide drones as part of a plan for a fresh offensive in Ukraine, officials have told ITV News.

A site has been identified for a factory where Iranian specialists will help the Russian military to construct 'unmanned aerial vehicles', designed to paralyse Ukraine's energy infrastructure and overwhelm its air defence systems during the Spring, when newly trained troops are expected to launch a new push.

Construction work could begin at the factory "within weeks" said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

[tgw]

50 minutes ago, Black Ops said:

Russia is drawing up proposals to build its first production plant for suicide drones as part of a plan for a fresh offensive in Ukraine, officials have told ITV News.

A site has been identified for a factory where Iranian specialists will help the Russian military to construct 'unmanned aerial vehicles', designed to paralyse Ukraine's energy infrastructure and overwhelm its air defence systems during the Spring, when newly trained troops are expected to launch a new push.

Construction work could begin at the factory "within weeks" said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

I hope this factory will be taken care of

[jvs]

I hope this is not off topic,a Youtube video with some very disturbing opinions from Russian citizens.

Not all are for the war but the ones who are seem to be brainwashed

and unwilling to hear the other sides opinion.

 

[Social Media]

France could agree to Volodymyr Zelensky’s demands for fighter jets to defend Ukraine’s skies, the chairman of the French defence committee said on Thursday.

It came as the UK confirmed that British tanks would arrive in Ukraine in time for an expected Russian spring offensive, joining German-made Leopards being sent to Kyiv within weeks.

“Everyone should feel very proud of the leadership role that we have played, one of the early nations to provide tanks to Ukraine," said Rishi Sunak, the prime minister.

[rudi49jr]

Something to look forward to for the Russian people:

 

Nowhere’s safe: Lock up your kids as Putin’s beloved serial killers and rapist beasts come back from the Ukraine front, Russia warned.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21176922/lock-up-kids-killers-rapists-ukraine/?utm_campaign=native_share&utm_source=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native

[ballpoint]

Very insightful analysis from a former intelligence officer who also served with the International Legion in Ukraine last year, seeing action, and witnessing the near instant effect of Poland's donation of T2 tanks to Ukraine.  The superior Western ones hold much more promise, even in limited numbers.

 

 

 

[ballpoint]

2 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Something to look forward to for the Russian people:

 

Nowhere’s safe: Lock up your kids as Putin’s beloved serial killers and rapist beasts come back from the Ukraine front, Russia warned.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/21176922/lock-up-kids-killers-rapists-ukraine/?utm_campaign=native_share&utm_source=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native

It's not just on the front lines where convicts are being used.  Russia's armaments factories are struggling so much to keep up production that Putin has announced anyone volunteering to work in them will be exempt from military service, as well as using convicts to build his weapons, also in return for exemption from service.  One wonders just how effective they will be. 

 

Russia Turning to Prison Labor as It Struggles to Make Enough Weapons: U.K. (newsweek.com)

 

 

[Seppius]

A bit dramatic from The DailyMail UK, but the way things are going won't be long

 

"Russia is now at war with NATO and the West': Putin has taken conflict in Ukraine 'to a different stage', senior EU official admits following Germany's decision to supply tanks"

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11682983/Russia-war-NATO-West-senior-EU-official-admits.html

 

 

[bannork]

Russia's top propagandist losing it after the tanks for Ukraine announcement.

 

[bannork]

NATO is not at war with Russia 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/28/europe/nato-is-not-at-war-with-russia-intl-cmd/index.html

[Bkk Brian]

Not sure why they added North Korea's displeasure to this article, nothing to do with them although they are making money selling military supplies to Russia now.

 

But good news so far with the tank commitments from countries.

 

West to deliver 321 tanks to Ukraine, says diplomat, as North Korea accuses US of ‘crossing the red line’

Western countries will deliver more than 300 tanks to Ukraine, Kyiv’s ambassador to France said Friday.

“As of today, numerous countries have officially confirmed their agreement to deliver 321 heavy tanks to Ukraine,” Vadym Omelchenko told French TV station and CNN affiliate BFM television.

He did not specify which countries would provide the tanks or provide a breakdown of which models.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/27/world/ukraine-tanks-western-allies-intl-hnk/index.html

[ExpatOilWorker]

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not sure why they added North Korea's displeasure to this article, nothing to do with them although they are making money selling military supplies to Russia now.

 

But good news so far with the tank commitments from countries.

 

West to deliver 321 tanks to Ukraine, says diplomat, as North Korea accuses US of ‘crossing the red line’

Western countries will deliver more than 300 tanks to Ukraine, Kyiv’s ambassador to France said Friday.

“As of today, numerous countries have officially confirmed their agreement to deliver 321 heavy tanks to Ukraine,” Vadym Omelchenko told French TV station and CNN affiliate BFM television.

He did not specify which countries would provide the tanks or provide a breakdown of which models.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/27/world/ukraine-tanks-western-allies-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

NATO is not at war with Russia 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/28/europe/nato-is-not-at-war-with-russia-intl-cmd/index.html

To be honest, NATO is more or less at war with Russia. They are supplying Ukraine with huge loads weapons (and probably share all kinds of intel as well) out of sheer necessity, otherwise Russia would by now be threatening the Baltics, and Poland, and all the other former eastern bloc countries.

To be clear: this is all on Russia, they started this war, and NATO is just reacting. Nothing wrong with standing up to a big bully. 

[candide]

Ukraine says Russia's putting inflatable tanks on the battlefield — but the decoys deflated ????

https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-says-russias-putting-inflatable-024429192.html

[Social Media]

Is this the week when the war dramatically turned in Ukraine's favour? It was certainly a decisive moment, with a coalition of Western nations confirming they were finally willing to supply modern-made main battle tanks.

Germany said it would send Leopard 2 tanks and the US said it would send M1 Abrams tanks. Both the UK and Poland have already made concrete pledges, and other nations are expected to follow. Some commentators have described the move as a potential "gamechanger".

But is it really enough to win the war?

Ben Barry, senior fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (ISS), tells the BBC that Western tanks will make a difference. But the former British Army Brigadier also warns that the pledges made so far are unlikely to prove decisive.

In modern warfare, tanks have been a key element for offensive operations - to punch through enemy lines and retake territory.

[Social Media]

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, Black Ops said:

Is this the week when the war dramatically turned in Ukraine's favour? It was certainly a decisive moment, with a coalition of Western nations confirming they were finally willing to supply modern-made main battle tanks.

Germany said it would send Leopard 2 tanks and the US said it would send M1 Abrams tanks. Both the UK and Poland have already made concrete pledges, and other nations are expected to follow. Some commentators have described the move as a potential "gamechanger".

But is it really enough to win the war?

Ben Barry, senior fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (ISS), tells the BBC that Western tanks will make a difference. But the former British Army Brigadier also warns that the pledges made so far are unlikely to prove decisive.

In modern warfare, tanks have been a key element for offensive operations - to punch through enemy lines and retake territory.

Not so long ago posters were cheering at how many old Russian tanks were destroyed by anti tank weapons used by the Ukrainians.

Do those same posters believe that the Leopards and Abrams are immune to anti tank weapons used by the Russians?

[Tug]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not so long ago posters were cheering at how many old Russian tanks were destroyed by anti tank weapons used by the Ukrainians.

Do those same posters believe that the Leopards and Abrams are immune to anti tank weapons used by the Russians?

Nope but they are better designed and are better able to withstand battle damage the Russian tanks store the ammo in the same space as the crew very unfortunate for the poor slobs manning them oh btw the count is up to 400 tanks pledged from various nato countries slava Ukraine ???????? 

[tgw]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not so long ago posters were cheering at how many old Russian tanks were destroyed by anti tank weapons used by the Ukrainians.

Do those same posters believe that the Leopards and Abrams are immune to anti tank weapons used by the Russians?

US Abrams Tank ‘Destroyed’ In Ukraine, Unable To Operate In Harsh Winters: Russian Social Media Abuzz With Hilarious Claims

https://eurasiantimes.com/us-abrams-tank-destroyed-in-ukraine-unable-to-operate/

 

 

 

 

of course Abrams and Leopards are not immune to ATGM, but we can hope these tanks will be used more wisely by the Ukrainians than the Ruzzians used theirs.
In particular, using the tanks according to NATO doctrine, as an element of a combined arms assault supported by infantry and IFV, as opposed to Ruzzian tactics of sending tanks without infantry support.

 

as you can see above, the Ruzzians took a headstart in destroying Bradleys and Abrams before they even reached Ukraine.

Edited January 28, 2023 by tgw

[LosLobo]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not so long ago posters were cheering at how many old Russian tanks were destroyed by anti tank weapons used by the Ukrainians.

Do those same posters believe that the Leopards and Abrams are immune to anti tank weapons used by the Russians?

IMHO, most of those posters are savvy critical thinkers, and know that no tank is immune to anti-tank weapons. 

Though, these posters who engage interesting, intelligent and worthwhile  discussion are not immune to the time-wasting posts of the same posters who continually troll this forum.

 

 

Edited January 29, 2023 by LosLobo

[tgw]

On 1/27/2023 at 1:47 AM, tgw said:

I hope this factory will be taken care of

funny... after I post something specific, then something specific happens:

 

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/iran-thwarts-drone-attack-on-military-site/48241502

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/blast-heard-military-plant-irans-central-city-isfahan-state-media-2023-01-28/

 

video:

https://v.redd.it/7vummdu9fvea1

 

Edited January 29, 2023 by tgw

[Bkk Brian]

Ukraine: ‘Fast-track’ talks underway for missiles, planes

Ukraine and its Western allies are engaged in “fast-track” talks on the possibility of equipping the invaded country with long-range missiles and military aircraft, a top Ukrainian presidential aide said Saturday.

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, said Ukraine’s supporters in the West “understand how the war is developing” and the need to supply planes capable of providing cover for the armored fighting vehicles that the United States and Germany pledged at the beginning of the month.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-politics-government-donetsk-119eacfc993491b4b66a117ddfe91696

[kwonitoy]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Not so long ago posters were cheering at how many old Russian tanks were destroyed by anti tank weapons used by the Ukrainians.

Do those same posters believe that the Leopards and Abrams are immune to anti tank weapons used by the Russians?

What is the Invaders equivalent to a Javelin, the main man portable tank killer? Do they even have one?

What is the Invaders equivalent to a TOW missile. Do they have any?

What anti tank weapons do the Invaders Have? 

 

Slava Ukraine

 

Edited January 29, 2023 by kwonitoy

[Social Media]

More than 40% of Ukraine is now mined, according to one estimate. Sky News speaks to an expert about why landmines are used and how difficult they are to clean up.

[LosLobo]

Evidently Ukrainian pilots has been training on flight simulators in Ukraine for almost six months now in advance of a decision from the US.

 

Inside Ukraine’s Secret Effort to Train Pilots for U.S. Jets...

 

 

Edited January 29, 2023 by LosLobo

[bannork]

For the tanks to operate safely, the Ukrainians need to rule the skies. Hence fighter jets will be the next gift from the West.

[bannork]

The good doctor reckons the earliest the tanks will be operational is 6 weeks. 

 

[jvs]

3 hours ago, LosLobo said:

Evidently Ukrainian pilots has been training on flight simulators in Ukraine for almost six months now in advance of a decision from the US.

 

Inside Ukraine’s Secret Effort to Train Pilots for U.S. Jets...

 

 

Of course they will be ready when the equipment arrives,same goes for the tanks.Many soldiers from the Ukraine have been in training in different countries.

Maintenance can be done elsewhere,just make sure the can operate the battle side of it.

[Seppius]

If you want to get the Russian view on the war in English , you can watch RT here, I can't believe the stuff they come out with.

 

It's also a good source for sport

 

https://time4tv.stream/watch1/live-tv/rt-news.php