Electric Vehicles in Thailand

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, Pib said:

Just drove by my BYD dealership here in western Bangkok (where I got my Atto)....an 8 vehicle carrier was parked in front unloading.  6 vehicles were still on the carrier...all Seals.....4 white, 1 blue, 1 black.

 

Wonder if there has been a new shipment or if they are being released from the docks very slowly .

Seen adverts for 8 Seals near me today on FB.

3 x Black in Rangsit 

1 x Black + 1 x Grey in Phra in ( Ayutthaya )

1 x Black + 1 x White + 1 x Blue in Ang Thong

 

All Performance models.

[Bandersnatch]

14 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Wonder if there has been a new shipment or if they are being released from the docks very slowly .

Seen adverts for 8 Seals near me today on FB.

3 x Black in Rangsit 

1 x Black + 1 x Grey in Phra in ( Ayutthaya )

1 x Black + 1 x White + 1 x Blue in Ang Thong

 

All Performance models.

 

 

We put down a deposit on a White Seal Premium on September 29th (They released the price info at 6pm on Sept 28th)

 

Was told will get in October or early November. Called the sales girl this morning and she didn’t know when the next premium would arrive. 

 

Ask if the Q for performance was any shorter 

 

“we have a white performance at the showroom now if you want it” 🤔

 

 

 

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

12 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

 

We put down a deposit on a White Seal Premium on September 29th (They released the price info at 6pm on Sept 28th)

 

Was told will get in October or early November. Called the sales girl this morning and she didn’t know when the next premium would arrive. 

 

Ask if the Q for performance was any shorter 

 

“we have a white performance at the showroom now if you want it” 🤔

 

 

 

 

Yes, my local showroom has a Grey ( my chosen colour) Performance ready to deliver.

 

Am feeling the pressure 😢

[macahoom]

 

Come on you guys. Stop messing' about.

 

Get the Peformance. Life's too short!

 

You're gonna love it.

[Andrew Dwyer]

9 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

Come on you guys. Stop messing' about.

 

Get the Peformance. Life's too short!

 

You're gonna love it.

But it’s an extra 150k , plus the 20k I have to pay you for the video !!

 

It is extremely tempting I must admit 😢

[macahoom]

7 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

plus the 20k I have to pay you for the video !!

I could maybe do it for 19k.

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, macahoom said:

 

Come on you guys. Stop messing' about.

 

Get the Peformance. Life's too short!

 

You're gonna love it.

Phom jon mak mak ... 😭

... besides, I can only drive 1 car at a time 😎

[macahoom]

14 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Phom jon mak mak ... 😭

... besides, I can only drive 1 car at a time 😎

 

Sorry don’t know what “Phom jon mak mak” means. My Thai girlfriend can’t figure it out either.

 

Regardless, my comment was directed at @Andrew Dwyer and @Bandersnatch who both have Premiums on order but are both tempted to buy the Performance as it’s available for immediate handover.

[KhunLA]

41 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

Sorry don’t know what “Phom jon mak mak” means. My Thai girlfriend can’t figure it out either.

 

Regardless, my comment was directed at @Andrew Dwyer and @Bandersnatch who both have Premiums on order but are both tempted to buy the Performance as it’s available for immediate handover.

'me very poor' ... 😭

[macahoom]

19 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

'me very poor' ... 😭

 

As soon as I told my girlfriend it's me very poor she said, "Oh yeh. Your intonation was crap and I couldn't understand what you were saying."

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

As soon as I told my girlfriend it's me very poor she said, "Oh yeh. Your intonation was crap and I couldn't understand what you were saying."

Happens a lot ... 😂

[Bandersnatch]

4 hours ago, macahoom said:

my comment was directed at @Andrew Dwyer and @Bandersnatch who both have Premiums on order but are both tempted to buy the Performance

Apparently the deal could be approved if I could buy a nice handbag to go in the space under the drive selector. Unfortunately the handbag has to accommodate an iPhone, the one that’s as big as a surfboard.

 

[Bandersnatch]

EV subsidies in Thailand to be continued but at a greatly reduced level

 

For the EV 3.5 measure, the Thai government will provide subsidies for electric cars, electric pickup trucks, and electric motorcycles. By type of car and battery size as follows

     1. In the case of electric cars priced no more than 2 million baht with a battery size of more than 50 kWh, they will receive a subsidy between 50,000 - 100,000 baht/car. For a battery size of less than 50 kWh, they will receive a subsidy between 20,000 - 50,000 baht/car.

     2. In the case of electric pickup trucks priced not more than 2 million baht with a battery capacity of 50 kWh or more, they will receive a subsidy between 50,000 - 100,000 baht/vehicle.  

     3. In the case of electric motorcycles priced no more than 150,000 baht with a battery size of more than 3 kWh, they will receive a subsidy between 5,000 - 10,000 baht/bike.

 

https://www.posttoday.com/business/701455

 

 

[Alotoftravel]

I was informed by BYD sales to take delivery of car (buy) by Dec 31 st 2023 to get the EV 3.0 subsidy (150k) ,  Allowing  registration the following month by EOM jan 2024. Ev 3.5 will commence Jan 2024 .  Caution : This is not fact check . 

[Bandersnatch]

Seal gained 1,104 orders in one hour after the launch in Thailand, Australia took 2 weeks to reach that number.

 

Rever Automotive, the distributor of BYD cars in Thailand, collaborates with the local charging infrastructure provider to add 1,100 charging stations by the end of 2023.

 

https://carnewschina.com/2023/09/29/byd-seal-launched-in-thailand-attracting-over-1000-orders-in-an-hour/#google_vignette

 

[Bandersnatch]

REVERSHARGER x BYD Showroom is open today for the first 5 stations!!

 

REVERSHARGER has expanded its electric charging stations at Showroom BYD service centers nationwide to provide special privileges and convenience for all customers. Both BYD customers and customers of other car brands who have the REVERSHARGER application on their mobile phones 

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Open 24 hours a day

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Service fee 8 baht/kilowatt.

 

1.BYD Review Automotive Rama 9

2.BYD Review Automotive Rama 2

3.BYD Spyder Group Petchakasem

4.BYD Chonburi Group Pattaya

5.BYD Dream car Group Rayong

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For REVERSHARGER customers and BYD customers, get ready to meet a new station opening, possibly a SHOWROOM near you, soon!!

Download REVERSHARGER Mobile Application at

App Store

https://apps.apple.com/th/app/reversharger/id1492566430

 

BYD Buriram had the DC charger but not operational yet.

 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by Bandersnatch

[Peciacake]

What are BYD like compared with MG when it comes to home charging P?

[Bandersnatch]

3 minutes ago, Peciacake said:

What are BYD like compared with MG when it comes to home charging P?

 

They both give a free wall charger and installation. MG uses Prime to do the installation and they don't like(understand) Solar. 

 

BYD uses a different company (name escapes me currently) and I was assured by the dealer that having solar was not a problem. 

[JBChiangRai]

8 minutes ago, Peciacake said:

What are BYD like compared with MG when it comes to home charging P?

I think the same on single phase, maybe faster on 3 phase, i’m sure someone who’s read the manual will confirm if they charge at 11 kW on three phase?

 

I think MG is 7.2Kw regardless.

 

anyone who has an MG can also charge their BYD cars at all the MG stations on high-speed DC

[Bandersnatch]

Just now, JBChiangRai said:

I think the same on single phase, maybe faster on 3 phase, i’m sure someone who’s read the manual will confirm if they charge at 11 kW on three phase?

 

I think MG is 7.2Kw regardless.

 

anyone who has an MG can also charge their BYD cars at all the MG stations on high-speed DC

 

[Bandersnatch]

Just now, Bandersnatch said:

anyone who has an MG can also charge their BYD cars at all the MG stations on high-speed DC

 

I asked my MG dealer and they said I needed an MG card that costs ฿1,500

[motdaeng]

5 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

 

is the "free" byd wall charger also for 3 phase installation? 

Edited November 2, 2023 by motdaeng

[JBChiangRai]

6 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

I asked my MG dealer and they said I needed an MG card that costs ฿1,500

You can use your iSMART App by scanning the QR code on the DC charger, it thinks all cars charging DC are MG’s (I tried it with another brand of EV and it worked perfectly, we don’t have any cards).

[JBChiangRai]

15 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

 

I asked my MG dealer and they said I needed an MG card that costs ฿1,500

We went round this loop with our dealer before getting the 2nd MG. The card was a lot cheaper than that, they had to order it from MG and when we came they spent an hour on the phone to HQ trying to get it to work, in the end they refunded us.

 

When we took delivery of our 2nd MG I tried my non-MG car in the DC Charger, the salesperson said I was wasting my time and it wouldn’t work, but it worked like a charm.

 

MG DC Chargers are actually another well known network in Thailand, I forget which, the secret is on the plaque with the serial number on the charger.

Edited November 2, 2023 by JBChiangRai
Spellung

[Andrew Dwyer]

28 minutes ago, motdaeng said:

 

is the "free" byd wall charger also for 3 phase installation? 

From what I understand yes, here’s the info supplied by BYD.

 

[ABB 7kW Charger] Product Specification for BYD Seal.pdf

Note: this is for Seal only, Atto 3 is a different charger.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Andrew Dwyer

[Bandersnatch]

Latest update on my White BYD Seal Premium Performance.

 

BYD Buriram are not sure if our car will be ready for collection today (paperwork) and tomorrow is an "Unlucky Day"  😠

[KhunLA]

23 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said:

Latest update on my White BYD Seal Premium Performance.

 

BYD Buriram are not sure if our car will be ready for collection today (paperwork) and tomorrow is an "Unlucky Day"  😠

Better wait till the 9th Nov ... hear that's a lucky #.

[KhunLA]

And for the price of more than a few cars, you may even be able to get a 'Lucky 9' license plate.

 

"On December 10, 2022, the auction of 9กก group plates of Bangkok took place, and the new record was set at 45,090,000 baht (about US$1,300,000) for "9กก 9999 กรุงเทพมหานคร"

Edited November 2, 2023 by KhunLA

[Pib]

Regarding the wall charger talk above just because a person may have a three phase 22KW wall charger does "not" necessary mean the  EV will charge at a 22KWH rate "because the EV's rectifier may not be rated for 22KW"....in fact, it could only be rated for approx 7KW single phase like the Seal, Atto, and Dolphin.

 

For the BYD Dolphin, Atto, and Seal model their onboard rectifier is "not" rated for 22KW...instead, they are rated for single phase 6.6, 6.6, and 7KW, respectively. 

 

So, this means a 7KW single phase wall charger will charge the BYD just as fast as a 22KW three phase wall charger....all due to the EV's onboard rectifier being a single phase approx 7KW rectifier.  

 

And when it comes to DC Fast charging, the Seal is rated at 150KW and the Atto & Dolphin at 80KW.   Now I have seen quite a few Youtubes which show the Atto can reach 88KW...expect the Seal might go a little above 150KW also.  But a person needs to ensure the DC Fast Charger they are using can put out the required KW.

 

 

https://www.ananindustry.com/byd-seal-extended-range-rwd-2023.html

 

 

https://www.ananindustry.com/byd-atto3.html

 

 

https://www.ananindustry.com/byd-dolphin-extended-range.html

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Andrew Dwyer]

EV registrations for Sept 2023 in Thailand.

 

Dolphin and Atto 3 pretty much neck and neck leading the pack, Seal likely to make a small entry in Oct chart but realistically will be Nov or even Dec before we see the full picture.

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by Andrew Dwyer