Thai LGBTQ+ Community Hotly Anticipates Same-Sex Union Bills

[BangkokReady]

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No problem. Say you're man and wife. Sorted. He was talking about a simple legal solution.

So I can still have "I now pronounce you man and wife" in the ceremony and "man" and "wife" on all legal paperwork?  Not based on what the previous user suggested.

 

Marriage is traditionally a ceremony of joining together a man and woman as man and wife.  If you want a civil partnership, with all the same rights and regulations as a marriage, go for it.  But when you say "I want to take something from you to make things better for someone else", obviously you're going to meet some resistance.

 

16 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You're complaining a total TRIVIALITY as if it would be OK to deny an entire class of people basic civil rights because of some petty language fetish.

Of course you need to pretend that it is trivial, or it appears trivial to you, it goes against something that you want.

 

I don't want to deny anyone anything.  You want to do that.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

So I can still have "I now pronounce you man and wife" in the ceremony and "man" and "wife" on all legal paperwork?  Not based on what the previous user suggested.

 

Marriage is traditionally a ceremony of joining together a man and woman as man and wife.  If you want a civil partnership, with all the same rights and regulations as a marriage, go for it.  But when you say "I want to take something from you to make things better for someone else", obviously you're going to meet some resistance.

 

Of course you need to pretend that it is trivial, or it appears trivial to you, it goes against something that you want.

 

I don't want to deny anyone anything.  You want to do that.

No I don't. This conversation is over. Same sex marriage is no skin off your ass. You're not fooling anyone. Another one that wants LGBTQ people in the back of the bus FOREVER. 

[BangkokReady]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

No I don't. This conversation is over. Same sex marriage is no skin off your ass. You're not fooling anyone. Another one that wants LGBTQ people in the back of the bus FOREVER. 

It's quite simple.  You can give give to some, but where you need to take from others to do it, it isn't fair.

[it is what it is]

10 hours ago, blazes said:

I don't have a problem with gays marrying or whatever, but I do wish they would stop referring to their spouses as either husband or wife.  It causes unnecessary (but probably deliberate) confusion as one does a double-take.

(What's wrong with "partner"?)

 

i guess you're easily confused

[Puccini]

Does the Thai marriage certificate refer to one person as man or husband and to the other person as woman or wife?

[ikke1959]

I am getting sick of people here thinking only in ways of husband and wife.. In the many gaycouples I know and are married the men always call eachother my husband and the lesbian couples always call eachother my wife...So stop with thinking hat there is a "husband" and "wife" in in a gay couple.. that is only a heterosexual brainwashed thought.

[OneMoreFarang]

10 hours ago, Adelphi said:

Why should they not be allowed  to adopt?  Many children in orphanages without parents.  All the evidence is that lesbians and gay men can make excellent parents.  

Children deserver a mother and a father. Same sex couples will never be able to give children what they deserve. One father and one mother.

And naturally they can't have children. Good.

[Orinoco]

The way some poster are going on, on this thread, they would have you believe the whole world is gay.

well it's not.

[Yellowtail]

12 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

If two males are getting married and they both are wearing suits  , is there any way of knowing which one is the Wife ?

Are they not both husbands? 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, Orinoco said:

The way some poster are going on, on this thread, they would have you believe the whole world is gay.

well it's not.

Nobody said it is. LGBTQ represents a bunch of sexual MINORITIES that do indeed have an international political agenda  To be treated fairly, with respect, without discrimination or oppression, and with equal legal civil rights as the majority. 

[Jingthing]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Children deserver a mother and a father. Same sex couples will never be able to give children what they deserve. One father and one mother.

And naturally they can't have children. Good.

Lesbians can have children. Gay or bi men may have children from previous relationships, adoptions, relative siblings dying, etc. Aside from LGBTQ people having children which many do, single parents raising children is very common. Personally I think being raised by a loving same sex couple in a secure home is much better than being raised by a heterosexual couple filled with toxicity. Its not about gay or straight but about other qualities of good parenting.

[Excel]

5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Children deserver a mother and a father. Same sex couples will never be able to give children what they deserve. One father and one mother.

And naturally they can't have children. Good.

Of course you are correct, its natures way also but of course mother nature's natural rules and laws mean nothing to those who choose to disregard it.

[bert bloggs]

Personally,i could not care less if a man wants to have sex with another man or a woman wants sex with another woman,i have one of each in the family,they through the years have just got on with their lives ,sick of gaypride,gay marches rainbow flags rainbow zebra crossings and on and on .just get on quietly with your lives ,or should we have straight parades,straight flags on and on .

[BangkokReady]

38 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Personally,i could not care less if a man wants to have sex with another man or a woman wants sex with another woman,i have one of each in the family,they through the years have just got on with their lives ,sick of gaypride,gay marches rainbow flags rainbow zebra crossings and on and on .just get on quietly with your lives ,or should we have straight parades,straight flags on and on .

It's not enough to allow it now. You have to support it. ????

 

Funny how "we just want X" quickly turns into "actually, we'd quite like Y as well" as soon as they get what they want.

[Rimmer]

A troll post has been removed

[Orinoco]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody said it is. LGBTQ represents a bunch of sexual MINORITIES that do indeed have an international political agenda  To be treated fairly, with respect, without discrimination or oppression, and with equal legal civil rights as the majority. 

Come on, you missed the plus (+) out.

i'm sure it counts as well. 

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

Come on, you missed the plus (+) out.

i'm sure it counts as well. 

I never made any claims to be alphabetically correct.

[bert bloggs]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Nobody said it is. LGBTQ represents a bunch of sexual MINORITIES that do indeed have an international political agenda  To be treated fairly, with respect, without discrimination or oppression, and with equal legal civil rights as the majority. 

So why cant us poor people have the same as rich people i want equality with them and the same amount of money and a mansion as well,it only fair.

Sometimes Jing minorities just have to get on with their lives,quietly.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

So why cant us poor people have the same as rich people i want equality with them and the same amount of money and a mansion as well,it only fair.

Sometimes Jing minorities just have to get on with their lives,quietly.

Know your place innit.

[bert bloggs]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Know your place innit.

Yes massa,ise a good boy.????

[Orinoco]

15 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

So why cant us poor people have the same as rich people i want equality with them and the same amount of money and a mansion as well,it only fair.

Sometimes Jing minorities just have to get on with their lives,quietly.

It's over rated,  it doesn't make me happy. 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2022 by Orinoco

[PJ71]

6 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Children deserver a mother and a father. Same sex couples will never be able to give children what they deserve. One father and one mother.

And naturally they can't have children. Good.

Agree 100%.

 

Loving same sex marraiges do not offer this no matter how much they think they do.

 

Then there is the stigma, mocking that will inevitably happen in the playground.

[Jingthing]

Just now, PJ71 said:

Agree 100%.

 

Loving same sex marraiges do not offer this no matter how much they think they do.

 

Then there is the stigma, mocking that will inevitably happen in the playground.

Interracial couples shouldn't have children because of bigots. Sure thing.

[PJ71]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Interracial couples shouldn't have children because of bigots. Sure thing.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Nope 

Minorities shouldn't limit their lives because of bigots 

 

Edited June 11, 2022 by Jingthing

[PJ71]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Nope 

Yip

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, PJ71 said:

Yip

Zip a Dee Doo Dah

 

 

[RJRS1301]

22 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I know a gay couple, very good friends of me and my family. They explained it to me some time ago that it's not about the sex. It's about making decisions like whether or not to pull the plug should that dreadful day ever come. People should really take a bigger interest in minding their own business.

Equal rights

[RJRS1301]

14 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

It's quite simple.  You can give give to some, but where you need to take from others to do it, it isn't fair.

What would be taken from you, your legal rights would not be impacted

[connda]

I have no problem with LGBTQ+ marriages.

Until the day that a Thai man marries a foreign man, and the foreign man is absolved of any financial requirements in order to obtain a visa based on marriage. 

That's the day that I declare that I identify as a woman, and my Thai wife identifies as a man, and she declares that as my husband she is supporting my marriage extension here in Thailand.

I'm all for it.  Let's do it!