Ladyboy murder: Many twists - Lithuanian denies everything and blames mother - dog found with monk

[PeeJayEm]

Such ignorance.  A ladyboy is a transgender woman.  Not a transgender man.

 

[PeeJayEm]

47 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

ALWAYS by other Thais, in my experience.

 

It still says 'Male' in their passports  -  you can't change that.

That's irrelevant. That is sex, not gender. A ladyboy is a transgender woman not a transgender man. Such ignorance in the article and some commemtators here

[malthebluff]

I'm not sure what I think if he did it or not  why didnt he try to leave the country? Why did he still have the mobile phone? He cant remember when he went to the atm or to pattaya but that can be easy checked. Or maybe he did do it and can not remember so carried on as normal but seems strange he didnt try to run or even cover his tracks 

[superal]

31 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

why would he murder the victim?? - threatened to reveal he was gay to his friends

 

Who has given the dog to the monk? - let it go in a park as he wanted to create alternative plot.

 

If the mother and some one else were stealing from the victim, why not investigate deeper?? - how do you know that is true ? You trust his say so ? 

 

Not saying my answers are true, but they are more creditable - or more so - than his story.

 

 

The dog was found tied to a tree in a popular walking place . Then given to the monk to take care of it .  The accused and deceased were ejected from a bar in Prasat recently for fighting each other . 

Taking her ATM card , how would she be able to access cash ? Taking her phone is a no brainer towards guilt . The DNA will be proof . Dead man walking ? 

[PeeJayEm]

6 hours ago, internationalism said:

after arrest warrant was put on him he should surrender to police.

Problem, if he doesn't follow thai news.

How he can't remember an exact date of travel of pattaya? Surely planning a few hundred km journey, changing flight tickets to delay departure, dates when he checked in at hotel in Pattaya would be remembered. And police can check them in multiple ways - following his SIM numbers, hotels and immigration records, cameras at bus stations or at petrol stations he stopped.

 

 

 

 

6 hours ago, internationalism said:

after arrest warrant was put on him he should surrender to police.

Problem, if he doesn't follow thai news.

How he can't remember an exact date of travel of pattaya? Surely planning a few hundred km journey, changing flight tickets to delay departure, dates when he checked in at hotel in Pattaya would be remembered. And police can check them in multiple ways - following his SIM numbers, hotels and immigration records, cameras at bus stations or at petrol stations he stopped.

 

 

 

Ofcourse they will check - but only if it is convenient to a wanted outcome and how they want to deal with the case

[MrJ2U]

"Ladyboy murder: Many twists - Lithuanian denies everything and blames mother"

 

I doubt the mother would murder her own child, not to mention her meal ticket. 

[PeeJayEm]

5 hours ago, Excel said:

Quite right Watson.  However given the fact that ladyboys attempt to tell people that they are not really men, when they are, confidence in anything they subsequently claim must be quite low.????

Such arrogance, ignorance or downright extreme nasty prejudices. Which planet have you chosen to live on?   Here on planet earth in 2022 a ladyboy  is a transgender woman - fact.

Edited June 18, 2022 by PeeJayEm

[PeeJayEm]

10 minutes ago, PeeJayEm said:

Such arrogance, ignorance or downright extreme nasty prejudices. Which planet have you chosen to live on?   Here on planet earth in 2022 a ladyboy  is a transgender woman - fact.

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Edited June 18, 2022 by PeeJayEm
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[PeeJayEm]

2 hours ago, bananafish said:

They say "transgender man", which technically, is a biological woman who lives as a man. 

A ladyboy, as headlined, is transgender woman.- not a transgender man as written in the article. The press here have no idea what JJ was.

[Myran]

And the Oscar goes to... someone else.

[Gecko123]

Hiding the body on premises sounds like something someone would do if they lacked the means (conveyance, manpower, familiarity with the area) to hide the body more remotely, and believed they only needed enough time to get out of the area before the body was discovered.

 

Neighbors reported decomposition odors. If the mother was responsible for the murder, surely she would have noticed the odors as well and taken steps to neutralize them or move the body off-premises.

 

Improbable the mother did it because hiding the body on premises puts her under immediate suspicion just for being in close proximity to the crime scene. The mother would likely have psychological need to move the body in order to distance herself from the crime, not leave her son's body on premises waiting to be discovered.

 

Edited June 18, 2022 by Gecko123

[sawadee1947]

If he's innocent we should start immediately a "Go Fund me" issue.????

[Denim]

7 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

If suspect isn't being truthful, he doesn't seem to realize that the Thai police have a fairly sophisticated forensics capability.

Plus plastic bags and duct tape

[PETERTHEEATER]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

He has named it "Cat" because it likes to play with cats and is lovely and playful and follows him everywhere.

Probably because his name is Kitti......

[Dont confuse me]

7 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

If suspect isn't being truthful, he doesn't seem to realize that the Thai police have a fairly sophisticated forensics capability. For example, if the scratches and blood allegedly seen on his body and clothes were related to the murder, that is going to quickly show up in the autopsy and crime scene forensic analysis. This would not be the first case of a foreign suspect thinking they can BS their way past the Thai police.

 

His "explanation for everything" responses to a long series of suspicious "coincidences" and activities reminds me of the 2017 Nordahl Lelandais abduction and murder of 8 year old Maëlys de Araujo at a wedding reception in France. For months on end he claimed his innocence and had an uncanny ability to come up with explanations for every incriminating piece of evidence he was confronted with, only finally confessing after a tiny speck of her blood was discovered in the boot of his car.

 

Plastic bags are quite a sophisticated method of interrogation also favoured by RTP.

[Excel]

57 minutes ago, PeeJayEm said:

That doesn't make her a man.

So you address all people with a title of Mr "She".  ???? 

[2009]

1 hour ago, PeeJayEm said:

A ladyboy, as headlined, is transgender woman.- not a transgender man as written in the article. The press here have no idea what JJ was.

Seems like an easy mistake to make.

 

And let's not presume exactly what he/she wanted to be called.

 

Transgender man certainly make more logical sense though

[hotandsticky]

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

why would he murder the victim?? - threatened to reveal he was gay to his friends

 

Who has given the dog to the monk? - let it go in a park as he wanted to create alternative plot.

 

If the mother and some one else were stealing from the victim, why not investigate deeper?? - how do you know that is true ? You trust his say so ? 

 

Not saying my answers are true, but they are more creditable - or more so - than his story.

 

 

 

 

Why do you think the victim (or murderer) was gay?

[micmichd]

33 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Seems like an easy mistake to make.

 

And let's not presume exactly what he/she wanted to be called.

 

Transgender man certainly make more logical sense though

The terminus technicus in Thailand is Kathoey. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathoey 

Would you call them "men" if you meet them in the streets? 

 

[thailand49]

The whole thing sounds funny smells as they say! 

Where is Joe Ferrari and his bags of tricks? 

[Elkski]

This story would really confuse an alien.  

He she.   Not everyone knows what what trans man means.   I originally thought this was a women who wanted to be male?  Now I'm more confused but really just rather  avoid using braincells on these sexual deviations.    

[thailand49]

The whole thing sounds funny smells as they say! 

Where is Joe Ferrari and his bags of tricks When you need him I'm sure he get to the truth if he doesn't go too far again????

[Gottfrid]

5 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

They are not the same same. 

???? Dude! Great perception! ???? However, It´s won´t change how I see it.

Edited June 18, 2022 by Gottfrid

[Bluespunk]

2 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

???? Dude! Great perception! ???? However, It´s won´t change how I see it.

Yep. You consistently do see things incorrectly. 

[ericthai]

5 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Perhaps it's as simple as the translation meaning to say "He was going to get it repaired"?   Probably easier in Pattaya than the middle of nowhere especially as he (the tranny) was, allegedly, planning to follow his boyfriend to Pattaya.

Plenty of phone repairs shops in Prasat and in downtown Surin. 

[BangkokReady]

4 hours ago, MrJ2U said:

"Ladyboy murder: Many twists - Lithuanian denies everything and blames mother"

 

I doubt the mother would murder her own child, not to mention her meal ticket. 

The ladyboy was going to leave, so the last resort was to murder her and pin it on the boyfriend, hoping that he would pay them compensation?

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

They are not the same same. 

Well, he actually said "same same, but different", which means similar.  One could perhaps argue that a Lithuanian is similar to a Russian, due to their geographical proximity and shared history.

[Bluespunk]

19 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Well, he actually said "same same, but different", which means similar.  One could perhaps argue that a Lithuanian is similar to a Russian, due to their geographical proximity and shared history.

A: No Russians are involved in this   
 

B: Lithuanian and Ukrainian are not the same. 
 

C; Therefore same same is incorrect. 

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

A: No Russians are involved in this   
 

B: Lithuanian and Ukrainian are not the same. 
 

C; Therefore same same is incorrect. 

A: He isn't claiming that.

 

B: He isn't claiming that.

 

C:: He didn't write "same same".

Edited June 18, 2022 by BangkokReady

[Bluespunk]

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

A: He isn't claiming that.

 

B: He isn't claiming that.

 

C:: He didn't write "same same".

You said Russian. Point A was a comment on your post. 
 

Yes they did when they said same same. 
 

Yes they did. 

Edited June 18, 2022 by Bluespunk
Gender neutral terms used.