Do you fear living to long?

[JAFO]

Topic seems odd I know but I was back in the States not to long ago and a group of us were out at dinner for business. Age range was 35 to mid 50's. As we all chatted a question popped up about living too long?  Sure we can always say "I wanna live forever" but in reality what is realistic? The biggest debate in the discussion was modern medicine and that it medically allows people to "Live" longer but what about their quality of life?

 

For me, I have seen numerous people start the pill regiment and pretty soon they are dropping 5 to 8 pills every morning to assist with High BP, High Cholesterol, Diabetes, etc but the meds make them feel sick and have other issues. Of course the side effects are sometime worse than the ailment the med is trying to help but what is the trade off? Of course once you start that program you get trapped with those meds and that doc and life becomes very controlled and limited. 

 

So sure, all the modern meds will allow you to live longer but is one "Really" living or just prolonging? 

[JetsetBkk]

Two people I know have died of cancer - one very recently. I wonder if they had known the months of "zero quality of life" awaiting them, whether they would have - or could have - ended the agony earlier.

 

[Lacessit]

I am 79 years old. I have weaned myself off 5 medications over the last six years. A combination of diet, exercise, and mental application. I have a resting pulse rate which for my age is approaching elite athlete level.

 

IMO there are some modern medicines which are essential for some conditions, many others it is simply getting on a pharmaceutical treadmill when lifestyle changes are just as effective.

 

I fear not having quality of life, which is why I work at maintaining myself mentally and physically.

 

One gets out of life what one is prepared to put into it.

[CharlieH]

First and foremeost its your attitude toward life. You can grow old wither and die pretty damn fast if you allow that to happen. Old saying "use it or lose it" very true in my opinion. You want to sit in a chair moaning and griping at the world dont eat right or exercise regularly then you are your own worst enemy.

Many ailments can be helped if not removed by a healthier attitude and lifestyle.

 

I'm lighter stronger and healthier now than I was 10 - 15 years ago, wish I had discovered and shown interest in those things earlier because its now a lifestyle and one I enjoy. 

 

They say that if you take the average between Mother and Father, all things being equal that is roughly your estinated expiry date. In my case that would put me at 86 ! Personally bloddy hope not! I really dont want to be here that long.

Lord forbid I ever get to the dribbling pissing the pants stage, I'd rather check out thanks.

Die with a degree of dignity and not a burden to anyone.

[hotandsticky]

4 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

First and foremeost its your attitude toward life. You can grow old wither and ide pretty damn fast if you allow that to happen. Old saying "use it or lose it" very true in my opinion. You want to sit in a chair moaning and griping at the world dont eat right or exercise regularly then you are your own worst enemy.

Many ailments can be helped if not removed by a healthier attitude and lifestyle.

 

I'm lighter stronger and healthier now than I was 10 - 15 years ago, wish I had discovered and shown interest in those things earlier because its now a lifestyle and one I enjoy. 

 

They say that if you take the average between Mother and Father, all things being equal that is roughly your estinated expiry date. In my case that would put me at 86 ! Personally bloddy hope not! I really dont want to be here that long.

Lord forbid I ever get to the dribbling pissing the pants stage, I'd rather check out thanks.

Die with a degree of dignity and not a burden to anyone.

 

 

I got through the "dribbling pissing the pants stage" in my mid 50's on nights out in Pattaya!  ????

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

 

They say that if you take the average between Mother and Father, all things being equal that is roughly your estinated expiry date.

Die with a degree of dignity and not a burden to anyone.

I am unable to estimate my expiry date, both my parents died at age 83 after doing their level best, most of their lives, to kill themselves with cigarettes and alcohol.

Last sentence of your post, 100% agree.

[Sparktrader]

I fear boredom. Loss of purpose. Im middle aged and bored from life.

 

 

[CharlieH]

Just now, Sparktrader said:

I fear boredom. Loss of purpose. Im middle aged and bored from life.

 

 

Well, its your attitude toward it isnt it, you are the CEO of your life, you make the decisions you are the one that decides how something is going to effect you. If you feel bored, you chose that.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am unable to estimate my expiry date, both my parents died at age 83 after doing their level best, most of their lives, to kill themselves with cigarettes and alcohol.

Last sentence of your post, 100% agree.

Exact ages my Mother and father passed at in the last two years, and both from exactly as yours did, my father died of a Stomach Aorta burst, and my Mother died of COPD/Heart Failure.  They smoked from the age of 14 and drank like fishes.  I rarely drink and have never smoked, so what would be the guesstimate of life expectancy, I have no clue.  My grandparents on my fathers side died at 97 and 99 years of age, my mothers Parents died at 52 and 56 from strokes and diabetes, of which I am the generation the diabetes attached to but only after a neck surgery where the doctor pushed so many steroids it caused the pancreas to go into a deep sleep......sucks to take diabetic medication, but I try to keep it at the minimum by my diet and exercise (45km a week of jog/walking).  Goal for me is to make it to at least 80, and that is 23 more years, provided I do not get run over by a bus, or flattened by a Grab rider on the sidewalk.......

[billd766]

6 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

First and foremeost its your attitude toward life. You can grow old wither and ide pretty damn fast if you allow that to happen. Old saying "use it or lose it" very true in my opinion. You want to sit in a chair moaning and griping at the world dont eat right or exercise regularly then you are your own worst enemy.

Many ailments can be helped if not removed by a healthier attitude and lifestyle.

 

I'm lighter stronger and healthier now than I was 10 - 15 years ago, wish I had discovered and shown interest in those things earlier because its now a lifestyle and one I enjoy. 

 

They say that if you take the average between Mother and Father, all things being equal that is roughly your estinated expiry date. In my case that would put me at 86 ! Personally bloddy hope not! I really dont want to be here that long.

Lord forbid I ever get to the dribbling pissing the pants stage, I'd rather check out thanks.

Die with a degree of dignity and not a burden to anyone.

That is a tricky subject.

 

They say that if you take the average between Mother and Father, all things being equal that is roughly your estimated expiry date. 

 

My Dad died in 1959 at 69 of a hear attack and my Mum died in 1973 at 69 of lung cancer. My brother died a few years ago at 81 from a stroke.

 

I am 78 and still wandering along nd I am on tablets for high blood pressure. I spend about a hour a day in the mornings 5 days a week cutting the grass and scrub which is my exercise.

 

I am determined to hang on and get my 100th birthday email from King William. Besides if I live to be 100 I will have earned my frozen pension.

 

The downside is that my wife will be an old woman of 79. ????

 

3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

I fear boredom. Loss of purpose. Im middle aged and bored from life.

 

 

I wish I had the time to be bored.

 

When I get some spare time I edit my EBook library and look for more books to read. It is about 1.6Tb in size and is likely to take the rest of my life to finish.

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

Well, its your attitude toward it isnt it, you are the CEO of your life, you make the decisions you are the one that decides how something is going to effect you. If you feel bored, you chose that.

Yes but after losing half a million dollars its hard to just forget it.

 

My work is patchy. My future is uncertain.

 

5 years ago I had a plan. Now Im digging around looking for a new plan.

 

 

[ThailandRyan]

10 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

I fear boredom. Loss of purpose. Im middle aged and bored from life.

 

 

Bored, why?  Get out and about if you can, travel and hike.  In Cha Am now and we walked over 10km today on the beach and then swam in the pool in the Villa.....life is what you make of it.  Just wish I could golf, but with a triple neck fusion and 2 double back fusions It is a non starter.

[CharlieH]

3 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

Yes but after losing half a million dollars its hard to just forget it.

 

My work is patchy. My future is uncertain.

 

5 years ago I had a plan. Now Im digging around looking for a new plan.

 

 

I empathise, and its easier said than done, but you gotta look at it, learn from it, and push forward. Dont look too far ahead, baby steps if need be, but YOU can control it, no one is gonna do it for you. Its up to you to keep swimming or drown.

As Rocky said "Nothing hits harder than life, but you gotta take the hits and keep moving forward! Thats how winning is done.

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Bored, why?  Get out and about if you can, travel and hike.  In Cha Am now and we walked over 10km today on the beach and then swam in the pool in the Villa.....life is what you make of it.  Just wish I could golf, but with a triple neck fusion and 2 double back fusions It is a non starter.

I want to travel soon. 

[473geo]

I think when getting out of bed in the morning becomes an unbearable chore then I will be ready to  close the final curtain and be happy I did it my way ????

[Doctor Tom]

no

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Its up to you to keep swimming or drown.

My father said that

 

[OneMoreFarang]

This is my favorite quote about this topic:

 

Jack Nightingale in Stephen Leather’s Nightmare

Nightingale blew smoke up at the sky. ‘Everybody dies,’ he said. ‘Life is a zero sum game. The best you can do is to enjoy yourself as you go along.’

‘But smoking shortens your life.’

‘Maybe. But it only takes the years from the end of your life. Not the beginning or the middle.’

Jenny looked at him, confused. ‘I have absolutely no idea what you mean.’

Nightingale took another drag on his cigarette before continuing. ‘Say I live until I’m seventy-five without smoking. And say I die at seventy if I do smoke. I lose five years. But really, Jenny, what am I going to be doing during those five years? Sitting in a bedsit somewhere watching the football, assuming I’ve enough of a pension to be able to afford Sky Sport?

 

[BritManToo]

66, I feel I've already lived enough. 

[OneMoreFarang]

I have no kids and I don't want any kids. So I won't have a family life when I am old.

I see very few people who enjoy life after they are maybe 80 years old - with exceptions.

I live my life here and now. I do what I like to do, eat, drink, whatever. If I would be die in 5 minutes and I could review my life I could say I had fun until the end.

 

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I have no kids and I don't want any kids. So I won't have a family life when I am old.

I see very few people who enjoy life after they are maybe 80 years old - with exceptions.

I live my life here and now. I do what I like to do, eat, drink, whatever. If I would be die in 5 minutes and I could review my life I could say I had fun until the end.

 

I wish i had a kid

One be enough

 

 

[peter zwart]

32 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am 79 years old. I have weaned myself off 5 medications over the last six years. A combination of diet, exercise, and mental application. I have a resting pulse rate which for my age is approaching elite athlete level.

 

IMO there are some modern medicines which are essential for some conditions, many others it is simply getting on a pharmaceutical treadmill when lifestyle changes are just as effective.

 

I fear not having quality of life, which is why I work at maintaining myself mentally and physically.

 

One gets out of life what one is prepared to put into it.

 

27 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

I fear boredom. Loss of purpose. Im middle aged and bored from life.

 

 

Same here. But i also think its temporary. Maybe a part of mid life C. A few years ago i had days that i would be happy if i didnt wake up anymore but nowdays i have more and more happy moments. I started to focus on different things in life and forget about the things i thought were important in the years before. So keep it up mate.

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, billd766 said:

 

I am 78 and still wandering along nd I am on tablets for high blood pressure. I spend about a hour a day in the mornings 5 days a week cutting the grass and scrub which is my exercise.

 

 

 

I wish I had the time to be bored.

 

 

I said goodbye to blood pressure tablets a week and a half ago. I had tapered down from 160 mg valsartan to 25 mg losartan in about six months.

I did not realize I have significant white coat syndrome, which has led to a succession of doctors over-medicating me for about ten years. My BP increases by about 40 points any time I go near a doctor or hospital.

 

I suggest you get your own blood pressure monitor and take readings morning and evening for a week in your home environment. Then halve your medication, and see what happens for the next week. From the sound of it, you are getting enough cardio exercise, although strictly speaking it needs to be every day.

 

 

[Sparktrader]

My best years were 18 to 19, 26,27 then 34 to 44.

 

Need a new plan.

 

 

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, peter zwart said:

 

Same here. But i also think its temporary. Maybe a part of mid life C. A few years ago i had days that i would be happy if i didnt wake up anymore but nowdays i have more and more happy moments. I started to focus on different things in life and forget about the things i thought were important in the years before. So keep it up mate.

What did u focus on?

[jvs]

2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

I wish i had a kid

One be enough

 

 

You feel boredom and you wish you had a kid,why not?

It does not need to be a baby of course but you could adopt a kid,all the way or just take

some one under your wing.

It can give your life great purpose.

I am doing it in a certain way and i have met other people who have done it.

Why are you trying to make all kinds of money if you are not doing anything good with it?

Giving some one the chance for a bright future can give your life a big boost.

 

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, jvs said:

You feel boredom and you wish you had a kid,why not?

It does not need to be a baby of course but you could adopt a kid,all the way or just take

some one under your wing.

It can give your life great purpose.

I am doing it in a certain way and i have met other people who have done it.

Why are you trying to make all kinds of money if you are not doing anything good with it?

Giving some one the chance for a bright future can give your life a big boost.

 

No i want my own kid

Blood is thicker than water

 

[jvs]

1 minute ago, Sparktrader said:

No i want my own kid

Blood is thicker than water

 

I think you are wrong but that is ok,people who have adopted feel the same amount

of love for their children.

[Sparktrader]

1 minute ago, jvs said:

I think you are wrong but that is ok,people who have adopted feel the same amount

of love for their children.

I tried that. 50% love. 

[StayinThailand2much]

30 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Bored, why?  Get out and about if you can, travel and hike. 

That's what I planned to do the past few years. Then came Covid, which didn't do my body any good, I mean just being inactive. Fortunately, I did well financially, which will allow me to travel again, picking up my more active lifestyle from 2019...