Shooting reported at 4th of July parade in Chicago suburb of Highland Park

[bendejo]

17 hours ago, Berkshire said:

More dead Americans from guns.  Nothing new.  The solution from right wing America:  we need more guns!  Because guns don't kill people, people kill.....oh nevermind.

The important thing is the Constitutional right of the shooter to have the weapons.  Founding fathers blood of patriots cold dead hands etc.  For those dead thoughts prayers etc, and anyway they should have been somewhere else, no one told them to be there.  Maybe they were all "crisis actors" like Fox usually claims; they should change their international marketing slogan to "if you hate America you'll love Fox!"

NOTE: the above is sarcasm.

 

20 hours ago, gargamon said:

Oh come on. This isn't news anymore. This is America.  The US should be on travel warnings...

Great idea!  Won't effect those who could cause it to change, though.  At least not at this moment.  But yeah, TripAdvisor would be a good place to start it.

 

 

[Scott]

7th Person Dies Day After Highland Park Parade Mass Shooting

A seventh person died Tuesday following the mass shooting at an Independence Day parade in Highland Park, officials said.

 

The death comes after officials updated the wounded count to 47 Tuesday morning. That number now stands at 46, marking a grim update just one day after the tragedy unfolded.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/7th-person-dies-day-after-highland-park-parade-mass-shooting/2873971/

[Stargeezr]

Ho Hum another 4th of July another shooting. I wonder how many mass shootings until the next 4th of July?

  When I hear of a mass shooting, the first country I think of is the USA.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Stargeezr said:

Ho Hum another 4th of July another shooting. I wonder how many mass shootings until the next 4th of July?

  When I hear of a mass shooting, the first country I think of is the USA.

About 600.

[stevenl]

On 7/5/2022 at 7:56 AM, charmonman said:

An appropriate event for the 4th of July. Mass shootings have become as American as apple pie.

Naw, apple pie has been imported.

Edited July 6, 2022 by stevenl

[Lopchan]

On 7/5/2022 at 7:56 AM, charmonman said:

An appropriate event for the 4th of July. Mass shootings have become as American as apple pie.

Apple pie is actually a British invention ????

[Jingthing]

Info is coming out now that is starting to possibly look like there was a political (domestic right wing terrorism) and/or hate crime motivation (which frankly I and many others suspected because it happened in Highland Park).

The shooter was heavy Maga, was seen at Trump rallies, but also perhaps more significantly was a QAnon conspiracy theory follower which at the very least is anti-Semitic adjacent. Where did he shoot? Highland Park. Well known in Chicagoland as a heavily Jewish town. Where did he travel to where he reportedly considered doing a second mass shooting? Madison Wisconsin. Unusually very liberal city for the Midwest Madison. What about his irresponsible Dad? A Maga and 2nd amendment gun nut fanatic. Nothing illegal there but what kind of father signs an affidavit to allow his son to buy automatic weapons when he knows better than anyone that his son had a history of murderous threats? I don't think they'll have enough to charge a hate crime as after all he didn't target a synagogue (though he did manage to murder some random Jews which it being Highland Park was highly likely). But the father -- can't he be charged with gross negligence?

 

Just how anti-Semitic is QAnon? – The Forward

Edited July 7, 2022 by Jingthing

[riclag]

 no guessing now on right wing conspiracy theory's!

"Investigations into the suspected shooter’s political views or ideological beliefs or motives are still ongoing as of this article’s publication.

Police said they did not know the motive for the shooting in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood, but had no evidence of any anti-Semitic or racist basis. Investigators were reviewing videos he had made filled with violent imagery (here")
 

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-tattoo-shooting/fact-check-photo-of-shoulder-tattoo-of-a-rose-in-a-fist-does-not-depict-the-arm-of-suspected-chicago-highland-park-gunman-idUSL1N2YN1K4

Edited July 7, 2022 by Scott

[Jingthing]

Choosing a Jewish area to shoot up is a coincidence then? 

 

Could be.

 

Clues are coming in that are raising doubts.

 

But as said before I doubt there will be enough to charge as a hate crime 

 

https://www.newsweek.com/robert-crimo-highland-park-shooting-trump-rallies-illinois-1721618

 

Update.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/robert-bobby-crimo-iii-suspect-highland-park-parade/story?id=86236026

 

I just read this. A lot more information linking him to fascist ideologies. But a big one here is that he did visit a Highland Park synagogue during a major Jewish holiday. Knowing what we know now about him it's fair to suspect he was probably casing the place rather than doing research on the Jewish religion.

 

This aspect of his crimes should not be swept under the carpet.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Jingthing

[Berkshire]

On 7/6/2022 at 4:06 AM, Scott said:

7th Person Dies Day After Highland Park Parade Mass Shooting

A seventh person died Tuesday following the mass shooting at an Independence Day parade in Highland Park, officials said.

 

The death comes after officials updated the wounded count to 47 Tuesday morning. That number now stands at 46, marking a grim update just one day after the tragedy unfolded.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/7th-person-dies-day-after-highland-park-parade-mass-shooting/2873971/

Apparently this Crimo guy was suicidal.  Some mental health professional talked him out of it.  But....if he had gone through with it and killed himself, seven innocent people would be alive.  Lessons learned?  Just sayin....

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Apparently this Crimo guy was suicidal.  Some mental health professional talked him out of it.  But....if he had gone through with it and killed himself, seven innocent people would be alive.  Lessons learned?  Just sayin....

How were they to know?

But his Dad knew more than enough to not sign an affidavit that allowed him to buy the guns at age 19. I really hope there is a law that can be applied to charge him.

[metisdead]

Highland Park shooting suspect Robert Crimo threatened to 'kill everyone' in 2019 home incident: Police

 

 

Robert E. Crimo III, the suspected 21-year-old gunman accused of killing seven people and injuring many more during the Highland Park, Illinois Fourth of July parade threatened to "kill everyone" during a 2019 incident at his home that resulted in authorities confiscating a collection of knives.

 

Highland Park police officers responded to Crimo's home on Sept. 5, 2019 after he allegedly made threats, a police report said.  

 

Crimo told officers he was depressed three days earlier and had a history of drug use, the report said. 

 

Read more here:  https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooting-suspect-robert-crimo-threatened-kill-everyone-home-incident-police

[Jingthing]

Dad says he didn't do anything wrong. Roll eyes. It turns out that charging him is being considered. 

 

 

[zzaa09]

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Info is coming out now that is starting to possibly look like there was a political (domestic right wing terrorism) and/or hate crime motivation (which frankly I and many others suspected because it happened in Highland Park).

The shooter was heavy Maga, was seen at Trump rallies, but also perhaps more significantly was a QAnon conspiracy theory follower which at the very least is anti-Semitic adjacent. Where did he shoot? Highland Park. Well known in Chicagoland as a heavily Jewish town. Where did he travel to where he reportedly considered doing a second mass shooting? Madison Wisconsin. Unusually very liberal city for the Midwest Madison. What about his irresponsible Dad? A Maga and 2nd amendment gun nut fanatic. Nothing illegal there but what kind of father signs an affidavit to allow his son to buy automatic weapons when he knows better than anyone that his son had a history of murderous threats? I don't think they'll have enough to charge a hate crime as after all he didn't target a synagogue (though he did manage to murder some random Jews which it being Highland Park was highly likely). But the father -- can't he be charged with gross negligence?

 

Just how anti-Semitic is QAnon? – The Forward

You folks continue to be such a civilised lot. 

[Jingthing]

19 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

You folks continue to be such a civilised lot. 

Who is you folks?