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8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

You have a house in Thailand worth exactly what you paid for it.

I don't care, I didn't buy the land and build the house to have a mortgage or for capital appreciation, I bought the land and built the house knowing that it could be done for 1/10th of the price vs doing it in Sydney and having a mortgage for the rest of my life, and if I did that, I would be like everyone else, i.e. trapped and working for the rest of my life to pay it off vs retiring at the age of 55, 7 years ago and investing the money from the sale proceeds from my property which provide me with an income here which is tax free living in Thailand, i.e. It has cost me nothing to live here in all of that time, regardless of property value increases in Sydney. If I chose to stay, sure I would have made say 20% on any increase, that is adjusted after the 20% falls in property prices since the beginning of the year, but what life would I have had in this 1st world country with it's cost of living, where would the money come from for us to survive, I would have to work, no thanks, that is not my objective, I am living the life I want her in this 3rd world country, exactly what we planned for a decade before coming here, knowing exactly what we were getting into. Besides, if I hung onto the property, I would be taxed 42% when sold, for what, for choosing to LIVE in another country that is more affordable by miles.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Our western house has appreciated US $400,000 since we bought it.

Congratulations, real estate and shares are a good long term investment, however of late with the increases in interest rates they have both come back, I trust your $400,000 increase is still that today, that said, I know of two properties in the same area 15km out of Sydney where I used to live recently going to auction a week apart, one was appraised for $1.5m, it sold for $1.2m, the other was appraised for between $1.5-$1.6, it sold on Saturday for $1.250m. You can do the math on the fall back in prices, oh, I forgot to mention, both were 2 bedroom dwellings that needed to be knocked down and the land sizes were around 600 square metres with a 12.29 frontage, one with a sewer easement running through it's rear yard, so no swimming pool allowed to be build, or garages on or around that area.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Then again, we could never sell our 26 rai and 4/3 house in Isaan. No one stupid enough to pay that much for it that far out in the boonies and want to farm rice. Then again, I don't compare it to Sydney or Hawaii.

Why would anyone buy so much land in Thailand, that was a bad investment, you should have known that from the beginning. 

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

How in the world you can compare rural Thailand to Sydney? 

I am comparing the value in life that it provides me, that said, what life does one have in Sydney, I hear all of my friends constantly complaining of the cost of living, the house prices, the hours they are working, the taxes, etc etc, so I saw the value here a long time ago, so do others.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

It is cheap because it is in the third world. I hope you can understand that? Have you been to the opera lately in Isaan?

It is cheap because it's cheap, Opera....lol, good one.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Has Australia purchased any submarines lately with no engines or fake bomb scanners?

Last I heard they dropped out of a huge (billions of $'s) contract with the French and signed up elsewhere, but you can Google that. 

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

There is a reason there is the first world and the third world.

Obviously, and 3rd world suites me, I am free as a bird, and not constantly harassed by cops or other government departments.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

First world you own things in your own name for instance. You speak you own language. You get the drift.

I don't care about owning property in my name, the wife can have the house and the land, she deserves it, I even put the new car in her name, although I could have put in mine (yellow book), that said, I only invest what I am prepared to lose.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Some folks in the west can afford it and would never think of moving to Thailand because it is cheap.

A lot of folks in the west know no better and believe that they can take it all with them, yet life goes by them in a flash, each to their own, that said, I know millionaires, yet they are so unhappy, but yet have so much in assets that they keep pushing themselves, for what, to enjoy the remaining few years that they have seeing that what they have worked for will be pi$$ed up against the wall by their kids who haven't worked a day in their lives.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Some folks marry a Thai and live here because of their wives wishes.

Not in this case, wife lived with me for 9 years in Sydney as we planned the move, sure sometimes she would want to go back when she gets frustrated with the politics and corruption here, but she knows, that would mean that I would have to go to work vs earning a good tax free income sitting here doing nothing, and enjoying life and she wouldn't want that for me, maybe when I croak it she might move there, but I doubt it.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Comparing the third world to the first world? Just does not make any sense.

For some it doesn't, for me it does, i.e. if you have the $'s and are content to try a different life.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Pretty sure if you would afford a waterfront mansion in Sydney, you wouldn't be in rural Thailand.

That is obvious, subject to me not having to work to pay for all of the land taxes and upkeep.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Life all boils down to what a person can or cannot afford. No matter where it is.

That's a given.

 

8 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Has nothing to do with comparisons that make zero sense.

Makes all the sense in the world to me, each to their own. 5 bags of cucumbers here (5) in the bag $4.00 vs 2 cucumbers in Sydney for $.4.18c, like I said, cost of living here is great. I see the value.

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On 7/23/2022 at 4:01 AM, Swiss1960 said:

Bye bye, don't let the door hit your butt. You are obviously not fit for Thailand / have never bothered to understand the country and the people you were coming to visit / work with. 

congrats  on  your assimilation.

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2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I don't care, I didn't buy the land and build the house to have a mortgage or for capital appreciation, I bought the land and built the house knowing that it could be done for 1/10th of the price vs doing it in Sydney and having a mortgage for the rest of my life, and if I did that, I would be like everyone else, i.e. trapped and working for the rest of my life to pay it off vs retiring at the age of 55, 7 years ago and investing the money from the sale proceeds from my property which provide me with an income here which is tax free living in Thailand, i.e. It has cost me nothing to live here in all of that time, regardless of property value increases in Sydney. If I chose to stay, sure I would have made say 20% on any increase, that is adjusted after the 20% falls in property prices since the beginning of the year, but what life would I have had in this 1st world country with it's cost of living, where would the money come from for us to survive, I would have to work, no thanks, that is not my objective, I am living the life I want her in this 3rd world country, exactly what we planned for a decade before coming here, knowing exactly what we were getting into. Besides, if I hung onto the property, I would be taxed 42% when sold, for what, for choosing to LIVE in another country that is more affordable by miles.

 

Congratulations, real estate and shares are a good long term investment, however of late with the increases in interest rates they have both come back, I trust your $400,000 increase is still that today, that said, I know of two properties in the same area 15km out of Sydney where I used to live recently going to auction a week apart, one was appraised for $1.5m, it sold for $1.2m, the other was appraised for between $1.5-$1.6, it sold on Saturday for $1.250m. You can do the math on the fall back in prices, oh, I forgot to mention, both were 2 bedroom dwellings that needed to be knocked down and the land sizes were around 600 square metres with a 12.29 frontage, one with a sewer easement running through it's rear yard, so no swimming pool allowed to be build, or garages on or around that area.

 

Why would anyone buy so much land in Thailand, that was a bad investment, you should have known that from the beginning. 

 

I am comparing the value in life that it provides me, that said, what life does one have in Sydney, I hear all of my friends constantly complaining of the cost of living, the house prices, the hours they are working, the taxes, etc etc, so I saw the value here a long time ago, so do others.

 

It is cheap because it's cheap, Opera....lol, good one.

 

Last I heard they dropped out of a huge (billions of $'s) contract with the French and signed up elsewhere, but you can Google that. 

 

Obviously, and 3rd world suites me, I am free as a bird, and not constantly harassed by cops or other government departments.

 

I don't care about owning property in my name, the wife can have the house and the land, she deserves it, I even put the new car in her name, although I could have put in mine (yellow book), that said, I only invest what I am prepared to lose.

 

A lot of folks in the west know no better and believe that they can take it all with them, yet life goes by them in a flash, each to their own, that said, I know millionaires, yet they are so unhappy, but yet have so much in assets that they keep pushing themselves, for what, to enjoy the remaining few years that they have seeing that what they have worked for will be pi$$ed up against the wall by their kids who haven't worked a day in their lives.

 

Not in this case, wife lived with me for 9 years in Sydney as we planned the move, sure sometimes she would want to go back when she gets frustrated with the politics and corruption here, but she knows, that would mean that I would have to go to work vs earning a good tax free income sitting here doing nothing, and enjoying life and she wouldn't want that for me, maybe when I croak it she might move there, but I doubt it.

 

For some it doesn't, for me it does, i.e. if you have the $'s and are content to try a different life.

 

That is obvious, subject to me not having to work to pay for all of the land taxes and upkeep.

 

That's a given.

 

Makes all the sense in the world to me, each to their own. 5 bags of cucumbers here (5) in the bag $4.00 vs 2 cucumbers in Sydney for $.4.18c, like I said, cost of living here is great. I see the value.

I think one of the entry requirements to Thailand is you must personally know an unhappy millionaire? I have heard that story many, many times so it must be true? Unfortunately, I do not know any millionaires but I do know a lot of unhappy folks in Isaan.

 

You built a house for 1/10 what it would of cost in Sydney? Pretty sure you could have built one for 1/20th the cost if you chose Africa.

 

Did the cops/government single you out and harass you in Australia?

 

Some folks with money do enjoy their home countries, with their own families and friends, being a grandparent etc. I guess those folks would leave their millions to their own kids though?

 

Why would a Thai wife be frustrated with Australian politics or corruption? Does she even know how the Australian government works?

 

Cucumbers are cheap. Gas and Cars are expensive. Western food in Thailand is even more expensive. I am sure I don't want to have to resort to living on cheap cucumbers. Just eating rice everyday of the year is bad enough.

 

Once again, another person that quotes 2 houses out of the entire Sydney real estate market as gospel. Come on man, be realistic.

 

I paid for 9 rai in Isaan (wife) for a good price at the time. Wife's grandmother died and left her land. Later grandfather died and left her some more land. Father in law signed over his land. Now have 26 rai. Western house. Nothing around. No stores no nothing. Once money is spent in Thailand, I never fret about it. The land and house will serve a greater purpose over time than me.

 

Still have house in US. Can come and go anytime. 

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On 7/23/2022 at 6:08 AM, itsari said:

I can understand your frustrations as most foreigners and myself  have experienced something like you have .

Best alternative is do the work yourself .

If that is not possible then buy property that needs no renovation work .

I paid for a concrete floor to be levelled out recently . The whole of the work done now needs to be removed .

First time I have hired people for some time . Now I have bought a concrete grinder for 28000 baht to have a new attempt at levelling the floor . Anyone out there who wants to buy a used concrete floor grinder when i have finished let me know 

Yep 100%  correct, spent  10  years  doing my own house constructions after watching their  pitiful  attempts.

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On 7/23/2022 at 9:42 AM, 4MyEgo said:

When your home country gives you middle finger after you have seen that the grass is greener on the other side.

 

You can longer vote.

 

You cannot renew your drivers license from abroad.

 

You cannot claim on Medicare anymore unless you return for 6 months.

 

You will be charge 42% capital gains tax on the sale of your residence, calculated from the very 1st day you purchased it, yes 42% from the very 1st day you purchased it.

 

32% tax on rents payable with no tax threshold.

 

No deductibles on properties, such as repairs, loans, costs of any kind.

 

Foreign land tax payable annually.

 

When you reach the old age pension age you must return to make your application and when approved remain in country for 2 years for it to be made portable for you to receive it in Thailand.

 

Middle finger back to them ????

 

In Australia you need to learn and know their rules and regulations before you make life-changing decisions. Eg., If you have your Medicare card, it's okay for 5 years. It would be best to go back to Australia every couple of years, and have an address. (A friend's). If you manage to get the pension, it's well worth it. (> $900/ fortnight). But don't go on their international register. Pretend you're still very much an Aussie with close ties to home! And if all else fails, tell 'them" you've had a couple of cancers, and you don't know how long you've got left! Or, say you've got some Aboriginal blood! Play their degrading games.....just like Thailand!

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24 minutes ago, crouchpeter said:

In Australia you need to learn and know their rules and regulations before you make life-changing decisions. Eg., If you have your Medicare card, it's okay for 5 years. It would be best to go back to Australia every couple of years, and have an address. (A friend's). If you manage to get the pension, it's well worth it. (> $900/ fortnight). But don't go on their international register. Pretend you're still very much an Aussie with close ties to home! And if all else fails, tell 'them" you've had a couple of cancers, and you don't know how long you've got left! Or, say you've got some Aboriginal blood! Play their degrading games.....just like Thailand!

A fine endorsement for scamming the system ... hmm

 

Pretend to be a resident when you are not to use the services you are not longer supporting tax wise.

 

Theft & fraud ... lovely

 

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1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

I think one of the entry requirements to Thailand is you must personally know an unhappy millionaire? I have heard that story many, many times so it must be true? Unfortunately, I do not know any millionaires but I do know a lot of unhappy folks in Isaan.

Why such negativity, even as a millionaire I am content living here and I know many farangs living here who are basic pensions who are happy living here, i.e. you don't have to be a millionaire to live here.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

You built a house for 1/10 what it would of cost in Sydney? Pretty sure you could have built one for 1/20th the cost if you chose Africa.

Simple, because I fell in love with Thailand when I first came here, and that was before I met my wife, it's a mirror image of Australia to me, just different looking people, same sky, greenery, roads, drive on the same side of the road as back in Australia, big shopping centres, grocery stores, never been to Africa.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Did the cops/government single you out and harass you in Australia?

If you've ever been to Australia which I doubt, then you would know that yes, cops harass you, whether it's in person or not, they are on the hunt for revenue and promotions, red light cameras, speed cameras, mobile cameras, radars, you are literally petrified of driving on the roads because they will pick you up for the slightest flaw, no seat belt, cracked tail light, and so on, I know this because my job was always driving to get to appointments, all day at times. Here there is a clear difference, you don't see the cops and if your unlucky to get booked, it's a minimum 1/10th the fine as it is back in Oz, and you don't lose points from your license, which reminds me, I just renewed mine her for 5 years, $12 vs $190 in Oz.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Some folks with money do enjoy their home countries, with their own families and friends, being a grandparent etc. I guess those folks would leave their millions to their own kids though?

Agree, but for me it's different, no family apart from an adult daughter and a a hand full of close rich friends that I see when I return who complain about life in Sydney. No doubt they enjoy it as they have family and friends there, but also have to work like slaves to maintain their respective lifestyles and yes their kids will get it all, off the sweat off of their parents backs.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Why would a Thai wife be frustrated with Australian politics or corruption? Does she even know how the Australian government works?

Was referring to politics here.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Cucumbers are cheap. Gas and Cars are expensive. Western food in Thailand is even more expensive. I am sure I don't want to have to resort to living on cheap cucumbers. Just eating rice everyday of the year is bad enough.

Yes cucumbers and vegetables/fruits are cheap here, western food is more expensive, but you eat what you like if you can afford it. We don't live on cheap cucumbers, we eat very well, never skimp on quality, as for rice, only Basmati and rarely over 100 grams a serve, got to watch those carbs. Clean food only with a balance of carbs, proteins and healthy fats here. One could say we are a little more educated than most, e.g. when it comes to what we consume as opposed to giving in to the unhealthy choices that the majors want society to eat.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Once again, another person that quotes 2 houses out of the entire Sydney real estate market as gospel. Come on man, be realistic.

I have been in the Sydney property market since 1988, having invested in it for decades, it has always been a passion of mine and those 2 that I quoted you as mentioned was from the area I lived only, that said, I know the market as I watch it weekly, 78% auction clearance rates in February, 51% as of Saturday, you see my adult daughter has a fair few properties in the south of Sydney that she acquired over time so to speak, let's just say it reduces any tax burden by far.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

I paid for 9 rai in Isaan (wife) for a good price at the time. Wife's grandmother died and left her land. Later grandfather died and left her some more land. Father in law signed over his land. Now have 26 rai. Western house. Nothing around. No stores no nothing. Once money is spent in Thailand, I never fret about it. The land and house will serve a greater purpose over time than me.

Sounds fair and not overly committed.

 

1 hour ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Still have house in US. Can come and go anytime. 

Unfortunately the Australian government doesn't allow "foreign residents" for tax purposes that luxury, as mentioned they slap you 42% capital gains tax when you sell, besides I have used that money as mentioned to invest in tax free investments which provide me with a good quality life here, which is what I want.

 

All of the above said, best we move on as the topic was on something else.

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37 minutes ago, crouchpeter said:

In Australia you need to learn and know their rules and regulations before you make life-changing decisions.

Before moving here, I spent a decade making the plan, a lot of research and it worked out to a T, i.e. I live here, earning an income from investments and pay zero tax (non-resident) of Australia for tax purposes.

 

37 minutes ago, crouchpeter said:

Eg., If you have your Medicare card, it's okay for 5 years. It would be best to go back to Australia every couple of years, and have an address. (A friend's).

Yes, thanks aware of that, I go back every 2-3 years to visit my adult daughter and friends for about 10 days, see the Dr, get a years worth of meds, vitamins and stock on some stuff that is costly here. I do renew my Medicare card every 5 years and have a m8's address for that and banks because some will cancel your account if you have an overseas address.

 

40 minutes ago, crouchpeter said:

If you manage to get the pension, it's well worth it. (> $900/ fortnight). But don't go on their international register.

I'm aware that I would have to return and stay for two years to make it portable, if I qualify because I am pretty sure when deeming is calculated, the pension will be reduced drastically, suffice to say I would have to look at it very closely when the time approaches, that said, the cost to live in Oz for two years to get the pension would take at least double those years to recoup the outlay so might not be feasible.

 

What do you mean when you say don't go on the international register ? 

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13 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

It is better for you because that is all you can afford.

 

I am pretty sure if you could afford a $50 million dollar ocean front mansion on the Riviera, you would be there or anywhere else that fit your budget.

 

Women are only cheap because they are desparately poor, more so than yourself. 

 

 

You have a point but so does Sparktrader. I could retire in say the Gold Coast of Australia. Google it if you don't know it. Big long beaches and you get an apartment facing the beach for a higher cost than Thailand but still not that expensive. Hinterland with beautiful forest not far away. Compare that to say Pattaya or parts of Phuket and you might conclude that Gold Coast is the best bet and no way someone would pick Thailand except due to financial reasons.

But I find the Gold Coast boring .. good for a week but its kind of empty with no fun  .. just pubs, and bowls clubs, and take away shops and the same same I have had in my life so far. Where I come from in Australia is a nice place to live but also a bit boring. Big shopping centres. Cold winters. The thought of Thailand just seems more fun. Not talking about bar girls. 

I don't agree that the police are worse in Australia. I would say better. But there is a sense of freedom in Thailand that we have less of here. There is a sense of freedom too in Australia too that they don't have in Thailand - politically and in terms of total freedom of speech. 

I will probably stay 50 50 . 

In terms of cost whether you are poor or well off it is always nicer if you can get more bang for your buck too. 

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15 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

People have a right to complain and never forget that they do not.

 

When all of our home countries allow Thai's to move in, buy land, houses, businesses, etc. and Thailand will not reciprocate with the same kindness, then every single person has a right to complain. 90 day reports like a criminal and filling out the same laundry basket of paperwork each and every year is ridiculous. You would think the goverment would be smart enough to electronically file your documents and then simply ask you each visit, has anything changed in the past year? But no, they cannot seem to figure that out.

 

I would think a person that accepts ALL that happens in Thailand with never complaining, has lost their "bolos" or have lost themselves in a bottle. 

 

Complaining is healthy, it helps you to keep your sanity when you see Thai's shooting squirt guns in the air as a method to combat air pollution.

 

I respect the fact, to each his own, each person has their own individual right to call it as they see it. If they complain, it is their reason and right.

 

If you don't respect their right to complain, move along. 

 

 

 

 

You have made no effort to fully understand how Thailand functions, indicated by your points raised 

Lack of understanding is not a valid basis for complaint 

 

Also if process are in place when you decide to move to a country, perhaps thoughts on the displeasure they may cause should be considered prior to the move rather than perpetual moaning afterwards 

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1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

why don't you have a right good complaining go at your immigration office and see where it gets you.

Complaining at immigration worked for me. I was there to get my stamps transferred from my old passport to my new one. The IO officer said, before he started, 500 Baht, no receipt. I told him I wasn't going to pay as it's a free service. There was a few words exchanged between that officer and his supervisor. My passport was handed over to him and he did the transfer. No charge. My friend who was behind me and having his stamps transferred as well took my place with the original IO. No request for money. So it is right to complain. 

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1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Complaining at immigration worked for me. I was there to get my stamps transferred from my old passport to my new one. The IO officer said, before he started, 500 Baht, no receipt. I told him I wasn't going to pay as it's a free service. There was a few words exchanged between that officer and his supervisor. My passport was handed over to him and he did the transfer. No charge. My friend who was behind me and having his stamps transferred as well took my place with the original IO. No request for money. So it is right to complain. 

To complain about the rules of you staying here service is not the same. 

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7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

You should of reported him the head office. 

Not my job. His supervisor who witnessed the request for 500 Baht should have had him disciplined. But then again the supervisor is probably in on the IO scam.

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On 7/23/2022 at 7:10 AM, Jingthing said:

Why bother to TRY to do that? 

From my Pattaya area POV, it's a lower budget Miami. Don't overthink it! 

Didn't trump lower Miami forever below any measurable standard?

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9 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Mate, you have it all backwards.

 

People that are not here now, but once were, did not fail here. They had the sense and financial wisdom/planning for a return to their own home. I would call that being very smart and didn't burn their bridges.

 

People that HAD to move to Thailand because it is is cheap, failed in their own lives, by not being able to make it in their own countries, including you.

 

Be honest? Did you grow up as a boy dreaming of moving to third world Thailand? Or did you work your entire life, only to figure out when you hit 50+ that you didn't earn or save enough to stay in your own country? Please tell?

 

There is no such thing, as a person that doesn't complain. If you order food in a Thai restaurant and it is served completely burnt, do you wai the server like an idiot or complain your food is completely burnt. Face it, every complains about something.

 

You must think yourself quite righteous to come on a forum and judge haters. Do you know for a fact they are low intelligence? Did you sit down with them and give them an IQ test to verify their low intelligence? Foolish talk is all you have. Foolish talk is a sure sign of low intelligence.

 

People are different, unique and one of a kind. Each has their own life experience, each has their own life story for being in Thailand or going home. No one has failed. Everyone had a choice at one time or another.

 

We all have something to learn from any person we come in contact with, no matter what their life has been or is like.

 

Not everyone is dealt 4 aces in the game of life, not even you.

 

Take a look in the mirror.

 

You are exactly the kind of person you are describing.

 

Looking down on everyone is pretty damn poor behavior.

 

People will be themselves, should be free to be themselves and not judged by others like you.

 

You sir, are no role model, or you would be a big, successful bigshot in your own country.

 

To even write a post you KNEW 2 expats out of 100,000+ and judge the whole expat community on those 2 not speaking Thai is plain ridiculous.

 

 

 

You asked me to tell: I have three properties in UK. They create an income stream. What motivated me to work and secure  financial stability was the idea of moving to Thailand  permanently. Which I did. I can return to London anytime  I want but now its more of an obligation than a desire just to visit.

I reiterate- the haters are failures who can't get back here and the ones stuck here who can't get back.

I could name a few on this forum but I wont and can't. But some damaged people and inadequates use this forum to blame other people for their problems.

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21 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

People have a right to complain and never forget that they do not.

 

When all of our home countries allow Thai's to move in, buy land, houses, businesses, etc. and Thailand will not reciprocate with the same kindness, then every single person has a right to complain. 90 day reports like a criminal and filling out the same laundry basket of paperwork each and every year is ridiculous. You would think the goverment would be smart enough to electronically file your documents and then simply ask you each visit, has anything changed in the past year? But no, they cannot seem to figure that out.

 

I would think a person that accepts ALL that happens in Thailand with never complaining, has lost their "bolos" or have lost themselves in a bottle. 

 

Complaining is healthy, it helps you to keep your sanity when you see Thai's shooting squirt guns in the air as a method to combat air pollution.

 

I respect the fact, to each his own, each person has their own individual right to call it as they see it. If they complain, it is their reason and right.

 

If you don't respect their right to complain, move along. 

 

 

 

 

People might have a right to complain  but that does not mean they should exercise that right constantly. Its just boring, spoilt and entitled. It's the action of a spoilt infant. It also reveals a depressing weakness of character. I find  adaptability and positive  appreciation more noble. 

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1 minute ago, billd766 said:

I still call it Thai visa.

 

Would you like me to send you a key to wind me up?

And do British Rail still run the trains in UK, and the Electricity Board supply your lekky.   555

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1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

You asked me to tell: I have three properties in UK. They create an income stream. What motivated me to work and secure  financial stability was the idea of moving to Thailand  permanently. Which I did. I can return to London anytime  I want but now its more of an obligation than a desire just to visit.

I reiterate- the haters are failures who can't get back here and the ones stuck here who can't get back.

I could name a few on this forum but I wont and can't. But some damaged people and inadequates use this forum to blame other people for their problems.

Haters are not failures.

 

Sorry. You must think highly of yourself to be so judgemental.

 

I never heard of anyone working and being financially motivated to move to Thailand.

 

Usually it is the exact opposite.

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5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

What a ignorant thing to say, why don't you have a right good complaining go at your immigration office and see where it gets you.

Speaking of ignorant, no one said complaining gets you anywhere. More made up BS.

 

Are you saying you never complain about anything?

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5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

What a ignorant thing to say, why don't you have a right good complaining go at your immigration office and see where it gets you.

Speaking of ignorant, no one said complaining gets you anywhere. More made up BS.

 

Are you saying you never complain about anything?

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7 hours ago, 473geo said:

You have made no effort to fully understand how Thailand functions, indicated by your points raised 

Lack of understanding is not a valid basis for complaint 

 

Also if process are in place when you decide to move to a country, perhaps thoughts on the displeasure they may cause should be considered prior to the move rather than perpetual moaning afterwards 

Everyone complains, even you as evidence in your reply.

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9 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

You have a point but so does Sparktrader. I could retire in say the Gold Coast of Australia. Google it if you don't know it. Big long beaches and you get an apartment facing the beach for a higher cost than Thailand but still not that expensive. Hinterland with beautiful forest not far away. Compare that to say Pattaya or parts of Phuket and you might conclude that Gold Coast is the best bet and no way someone would pick Thailand except due to financial reasons.

But I find the Gold Coast boring .. good for a week but its kind of empty with no fun  .. just pubs, and bowls clubs, and take away shops and the same same I have had in my life so far. Where I come from in Australia is a nice place to live but also a bit boring. Big shopping centres. Cold winters. The thought of Thailand just seems more fun. Not talking about bar girls. 

I don't agree that the police are worse in Australia. I would say better. But there is a sense of freedom in Thailand that we have less of here. There is a sense of freedom too in Australia too that they don't have in Thailand - politically and in terms of total freedom of speech. 

I will probably stay 50 50 . 

In terms of cost whether you are poor or well off it is always nicer if you can get more bang for your buck too. 

I have never felt free in Thailand as compared to my own country, sorry. My own country doesn't need to know where I am every 90 days.

 

Thailand just seems more fun? Take away the bar girls and easy sex and it is just like any other place.

 

What is the more fun you are talking about?

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