POLITICS Trump says FBI raiding his Mar-a-Lago home

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

But you don't think ANTIFA violence  is despicable or an attempt  to KILL Kavanaugh is wrong.  A assassination attempt? This is the end result of woke  hate against  President Trump- violence- murderous violence

Posted just 1 hour ago, carry on

 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said:

I have a security clearance with DOD. Those 15 boxes of documents which some were confidential. That's not sensitive material. A message to put ensign at half mast was a confidential message, weather reports were confidential.

 

I find it extremely hard to believe sensitive nuclear documents are stored in boxes in the Archives. Really? There might be old stuff of limited relevance, who knows.

 

But if...if important nuclear info was on paper and kept in cardboard boxes, now that's troubling.  

The problem is that there are only a few people in the USA who actually know what is in the boxes. I doubt that even Trump knows for sure.

 

Everybody else is speculating.

 

One side says this and the other side says that. Who is right and who is wrong won't make that much difference, as neither side believes the other.

 

To be absolutely honest I cannot understand how one man has caused so many problems.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

But you don't think ANTIFA violence  is despicable or an attempt  to KILL Kavanaugh is wrong.  A assassination attempt? This is the end result of woke  hate against  President Trump- violence- murderous violence

Right wing domestic terrorism is the much bigger problem.

 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/right-wing-extremists-responsible-for-majority-of-deadly-terrorist-attacks-181352019.html?

 

 

 

 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, michael87 said:

Border security and illegal immigration. BIDEN, thats his baby. W/O secure borders US is a laughable and easy target for Chinese fentanyl. Fix it NOW Biden or stand down.

Now President Biden has been POTUs for a little over 18 months, yet you expect him to fix in that time scale something that Trump could not and did not fix.

 

Oddly enough, I don't remember you complaining about your wonder boy Trump not succeeding.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

What an interesting response.

 

nauseus does not reply, perhaps he is offline and riclag can only come back with, as he usually does, a laughing emoji.

I am was having my TGIF beers as I inferred. Bye. 

[Phoenix Rising]

51 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Is he with the Department of Justice?

You have to excuse their total confusion. After 4 years with a wannabe mobster godfather as president it's kinda hard for the MAGA crowd to get used to an honorable person in the WH again.

[Yankeesvsredsox]

1 hour ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Gotta love the irony of this????

 

Trump Made It A Felony To Mishandle Classified Documents In 2018

your yahoo article,

Tucked into a bill Trump signed into law in January 2018 was a provision increasing the punishment for knowingly removing classified materials with the intent to retain them at an “unauthorized location.”
  
The agency involved with Trump staff suggested to put a extra lock on the door after being shown what yahoo says is unauthorized. Side noteThey were also negotiating with another agency earlier in the year according to news reports to hand over other docs that the GSA packed into boxes  during the transition .

Furthermore Trump isnt the first Potus to have docs according to the source

Really got love the presumption that the news is trying to insinuate!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/national-archives-retrieved-15-boxes-of-trump-white-house-documents-from-mar-a-lago.html

Edited August 12, 2022 by Yankeesvsredsox

[Phoenix Rising]

5 minutes ago, Yankeesvsredsox said:

your yahoo article,

Tucked into a bill Trump signed into law in January 2018 was a provision increasing the punishment for knowingly removing classified materials with the intent to retain them at an “unauthorized location.”
  
The agency involved with Trump staff suggested to put a extra lock on the door after being shown what yahoo says is unauthorized. Side noteThey were also negotiating with another agency earlier in the year according to news reports to hand over other docs that the GSA packed into boxes  during the transition .

Furthermore Trump isnt the first Potus to have docs according to the source

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/national-archives-retrieved-15-boxes-of-trump-white-house-documents-from-mar-a-lago.html

Relevance?

[The Hammer2021]

THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT

The harassment of President Trump is similar  to that  of the victimisation Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, was subjected to a secret warrant so the FBI could spy on his cloud for months before raiding him early in the morning and seizing all his devices — except the Hunter Biden hard drive!

They charged him with nothing, returned all his property 15 months later and quietly closed the supposed investigation into alleged foreign lobbying violations.

The process is the punishment.

Just like wokeism is totalitarian thinking so the way THE Democrats use the DOJ and FBI is like the Putin/ Soviet  style using  organs of the  state  to destroy an individual.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

THE PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT

The harassment of President Trump is similar  to that  of the victimisation Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, was subjected to a secret warrant so the FBI could spy on his cloud for months before raiding him early in the morning and seizing all his devices — except the Hunter Biden hard drive!

They charged him with nothing, returned all his property 15 months later and quietly closed the supposed investigation into alleged foreign lobbying violations.

The process is the punishment.

Just like wokeism is totalitarian thinking so the way THE Democrats use the DOJ and FBI is like the Putin/ Soviet  style using  organs of the  state  to destroy an individual.

Without the link (to the nutter website you copied this rubbish from) your post is in violation of forum rules.

[The Hammer2021]

58 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

But you don't think ANTIFA violence  is despicable or an attempt  to KILL Kavanaugh is wrong.  A assassination attempt? This is the end result of woke  hate against  President Trump- violence- murderous violence

Why is a murder attempt  on a member of the Supreme  Court  amusing?

In the last few hours Salman Rushdie was attacked as a result  of the same  self righteous hate that woke left liberals  harbour for  Trump. Its mental illness

[Phoenix Rising]

4 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Why is a murder attempt  on a member of the Supreme  Court  amusing?

In the last few hours Salman Rushdie was attacked as a result  of the same  self righteous hate that woke left liberals  harbour for  Trump. Its mental illness

Quoting yourself again????????

[The Hammer2021]

11 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Why is a murder attempt  on a member of the Supreme  Court  amusing?

In the last few hours Salman Rushdie was attacked as a result  of the same  self righteous hate that woke left liberals  harbour for  Trump. Its mental illness

Why is an attack on a public figure, a stabbing funny?

[ozimoron]

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents in Mar-a-Lago search

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents during their search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago on Monday, sources confirmed to NewsNation.

Investigators discovered classified documents in two areas: Trump’s personal office above a ballroom and in a storage room near the pool.

 

Sources say there were “boxes everywhere,” with some containing Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI). Those are considered some of the highest level of classified documents.

 

Since the documents are so secretive, it’s unknown whether investigators will ever publicly acknowledge what they’re in reference to, let alone release them.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/3598071-fbi-agents-found-dozens-of-classified-documents-in-mar-a-lago-search-sources/

 

 

[habanero]

On 8/10/2022 at 3:49 PM, spidermike007 said:

That alone is worth it. As poorly as Biden has performed, one more Trump term and we could be facing a civil war. 

What are you talking about? You are facing it now. All it will take is just the thought that another election is rigged. All hell will break loose. Remember, it's the "Deplorables", that have most of the guns. 

Just to be clear, I am not encouraging such a thing. I just happen to live where people are ready to explode. 

Edited August 12, 2022 by habanero

[The Hammer2021]

8 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Quoting yourself again????????

No. I quoting a news report that in the last few hours someone, mentally ill has stabbed Salman  Rushdie. This kind of hatred, like the  hatred for  Trump is a sign  of sickness the goal of which  is violence.

Of course I am not quoting  me! How can you ask  such a question? It makes no sense.

[ozimoron]

*Deleted post edited out*

 

somebody tried to kill FBI agents too, a right winger I believe, with the usual gun. What brought that on?

 

I suppose those who hate Trump but don't try to kill him are as sick as those who hate FBI officers and do try to kill them?

Edited August 12, 2022 by Scott

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

No. I quoting a news report that in the last few hours someone, mentally ill has stabbed Salman  Rushdie. This kind of hatred, like the  hatred for  Trump is a sign  of sickness the goal of which  is violence.

Of course I am not quoting  me! How can you ask  such a question? It makes no sense.

Equating anti fascist anti Trump intellectual Rushdie to reality tv star Trump is too funny.

[Neeranam]

They don't want him to stand against Biden as obviously they would lose. 

Rather underhand tactics. 

 

[habanero]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents in Mar-a-Lago search

FBI agents found dozens of classified documents during their search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago on Monday, sources confirmed to NewsNation.

Investigators discovered classified documents in two areas: Trump’s personal office above a ballroom and in a storage room near the pool.

 

Sources say there were “boxes everywhere,” with some containing Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS/SCI). Those are considered some of the highest level of classified documents.

 

Since the documents are so secretive, it’s unknown whether investigators will ever publicly acknowledge what they’re in reference to, let alone release them.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/3598071-fbi-agents-found-dozens-of-classified-documents-in-mar-a-lago-search-sources/

 

 

Why is the Hill the only news agency reporting this? CNN or Fox not reporting this as of 5 minutes ago.

[The Hammer2021]

8 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

No. I quoting a news report that in the last few hours someone, mentally ill has stabbed Salman  Rushdie. This kind of hatred, like the  hatred for  Trump is a sign  of sickness the goal of which  is violence.

Of course I am not quoting  me! How can you ask  such a question? It makes no sense.

Laughing at an attempt  on Rushdie's life is inappropriate as is laughing at an attempt  on Kavanaugh 's life. But it typifies  the shamless hypocrisy of the woke. If a gay  icon had been stabbed  by right winger people would be outraged at laughter  emojis..

If death  threats had been made against  a senior  Democrat judge laughter emojis would be considered  unacceptable. The way people see wokeism and current 'progressives is that  they are  as hate filled as the KKK and just as despicable.

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, habanero said:

Why is the Hill the only news agency reporting this? CNN or Fox not reporting this as of 5 minutes ago.

Probably made up.

[Neeranam]

22 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

No. I quoting a news report that in the last few hours someone, mentally ill has stabbed Salman  Rushdie. This kind of hatred, like the  hatred for  Trump is a sign  of sickness the goal of which  is violence.

Of course I am not quoting  me! How can you ask  such a question? It makes no sense.

Awful. 

Many people seem intent on dividing the country.

They think they are superior to the Trump voters, which is ruining the whole Democratic process. 

[ozimoron]

15 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Awful. 

Many people seem intent on dividing the country.

They think they are superior to the Trump voters, which is ruining the whole Democratic process. 

Only Trump voters, not Republican voters, two different animals. It's gotten down to who you vote for defines you. Which person, not party.

Edited August 12, 2022 by ozimoron

[Credo]

38 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

No. I quoting a news report that in the last few hours someone, mentally ill has stabbed Salman  Rushdie. This kind of hatred, like the  hatred for  Trump is a sign  of sickness the goal of which  is violence.

Of course I am not quoting  me! How can you ask  such a question? It makes no sense.

You are getting mixed up.  It's not the hate for Rushdie that prompted this event, it's the love of the Ayotallah's and the blind obedience to them that is the problem.  The same is true of Trump supporters who swear allegiance and loyalty to a fraudulent grifter and now a thief.   

Trump has played free and loose with classified information.  He knew it was wrong to take it.  He was asked to return it and the National Archives has been in continuous contact with him over the issue.  

The Trump followers have to ask themselves in what universe is it ok to mishandle or steal classified documents?

  

 

[Sheryl]

Please stay on topic. And keep it civil.

A flaming post and reply to same have been removed.

[bendejo]

If law enforcement was keeping up with this guy from the beginning of his term (I guess that would be the fraud and possible treason of collecting all that $$$ for attending his inauguration from all those Russians in attendance and putting it in his own pocket)  maybe some of these transgressions wouldn't have happened.

That incident of having a private meeting in the Oval with Lavrov and Kislyak with only the Russian press present was the sure cinch.  If you can find the video that shows the 20 seconds or so before they disappear behind the door, you'll see Lavrov bullying the press in support of DT, as if to say "this is our asset, you keep out of it!" 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/05/10/the-strange-oval-office-meeting-between-trump-lavrov-and-kislyak/

Intelligence reported that during that meeting DT revealed some classified info, they caught him John LeCarre style.  Other than saying "ooo, he's not supposed to do that!" nothing was done. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump's_disclosures_of_classified_information

 

It's like the police telling you "we can't arrest someone for threatening to kill you or yours, but after they do it we can arrest them for murder."

 

 

[ozimoron]

The warrant shows federal law enforcement was investigating Trump for removal or destruction of records, obstruction of an investigation, and violating the Espionage Act. Conviction under the statutes can result in imprisonment or fines.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-espionage-act/

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3 hours ago, habanero said:

Why is the Hill the only news agency reporting this? CNN or Fox not reporting this as of 5 minutes ago.

 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Probably made up.

You will both be delighted to learn that at about 03:20 Thailand time, Fox News finally posted an article referring to this news., well after other major news sources. Apparently, it was another media source owned by the Murdoch's, namely, the socialistic Wall St. Journal, that got the scoop.

[heybruce]

9 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Dodgy search warrant-flaky

signatories- Biden  has blown it by weaponising the DOJ

Really?  You've seen the search warrant?

 

Regarding weaponizing the DOJ, do you mean the way Attorney General Barr completely misrepresented the findings of the Mueller Report before it was released?  Or Trump's pardoning of political allies?  Or are you going all the way back to Trump demanding loyalty from James Comey when he was head of the FBI?