Security beefed up for APEC with Putin participating

[In the jungle]

In the unlikely event that Putin turns up I do not doubt that he would have his own security goons with him.

 

Make sure to stay well away from windows if they are in tow.

[Bkk Brian]

I doubt he'll come, too busy orchestrating indiscriminate shelling in Ukraine cities.

[sammieuk1]

3 minutes ago, Grusa said:

Which is who? They  look the same!

Oddly enough they are just one has more and bigger guns ???? 

[connda]

4 hours ago, 2baht said:

How could anyone shake the hand of the despot Czar Putin, or Emperor Xi for that matter???????????

Why not call them pigs, orcs, and sub-humans?

Those engaging in dehumanizing name calling obviously haven't studies history.
The rhetoric of hatred is exactly what creates the conditions of war. Dehumanizing those whom you hate makes you feel morally superior. Your leaders start the Song of War and their loyal citizenry fall in as the chorus in four part harmony.  War is money for many institutions and corporations. They furnish the orchestra.  Ethnic hatred fuels their profits.  And ya'll willingly participate.  It's really sad to watch.

President Putin and General Secretary Xi are rational actors.  Neither have anything to gain by war.  The current special military operation in Ukraine is being fought on Russia's border.  If China for instance created a military coalition of Central American countries and then clamored for Mexico to join the armed alliance - "to stop US aggression" - and perhaps place nuclear weapon in Mexico pointed at the US and Canada - what do you think the US would do?  Sit idly by and watch it happen?

Wars end with with rational people engaging in rapprochement, dialogue, trade and respect for the security and sovereignty of all nations.  Not by attempting to beat the nations of the world into hegemonic compliance.

[Adumbration]

4 hours ago, harada said:

A golden opportunity if Vlad The Great was to attend. 

I just received an email from my Thai stockbroker confirming that he will attend.

 

Anyway let's not get ahead of ourselves.  By November Russia might not even exist, along with large portions of other countries.

[anandra]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

This thread is a perfect example of how people twist news to suit their own agenda. The photo of the PM shaking hands was taken before Vlad Putrid invaded Ukraine, so he is not endorsing Russia's invasion.

 

Having said that, would the scene be repeated now? Probably. Remember, Thailand has failed to condemn Russia, merely expressing concern. Not that anyone anywhere cares what Thailand thinks. 

Thailand does not care about anything unless it concerns Thailand. Just yesterday spotted T-shIrts with Hitler's face on sale in Khao San

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

THAI military and police are now fully ready to maintain tight security during the 29th Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) summit being held in Bangkok during November 16-18, 2022 with Russian President Vladimir Putin being among the leaders confirming participation

Sick... with what Putin is doing in Ukraine Prayut must want to upset the EU.

Best of luck with any future trade talks and investment in Thailand.

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, 2baht said:

How could anyone shake the hand of the despot Czar Putin, or Emperor Xi for that matter???????????

When you are the same ilk 

[Gknrd]

Tough times ahead for Thailand for sure. Scary times... wow

[CANSIAM]

5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Sick... with what Putin is doing in Ukraine Prayut must want to upset the EU.

Best of luck with any future trade talks and investment in Thailand.

Yes appalling, can the general population see the bigger picture here ? 

[Gknrd]

Tough times ahead for Thailand for sure. Scary times... wow

[2baht]

8 minutes ago, connda said:

It's really sad to watch.

As are threats of nuclear strikes on neighbouring countries!

[TTSIssues]

Putin, Xi and Prayut are all unelected dictators so clearly show a similar mindset.

 

i cannot believe that Putin would attend in person, but you never know as apparently he is going to attend the G20 in Bali.

 

there is clearly a massive target on him from so many people - so will be interesting to see if he makes it out alive. 

[Jingthing]

5 hours ago, alyx said:

Speechless

Yeah can't say what I really think.

[Jingthing]

21 minutes ago, connda said:

Why not call them pigs, orcs, and sub-humans?

Those engaging in dehumanizing name calling obviously haven't studies history.
The rhetoric of hatred is exactly what creates the conditions of war. Dehumanizing those whom you hate makes you feel morally superior. Your leaders start the Song of War and their loyal citizenry fall in as the chorus in four part harmony.  War is money for many institutions and corporations. They furnish the orchestra.  Ethnic hatred fuels their profits.  And ya'll willingly participate.  It's really sad to watch.

President Putin and General Secretary Xi are rational actors.  Neither have anything to gain by war.  The current special military operation in Ukraine is being fought on Russia's border.  If China for instance created a military coalition of Central American countries and then clamored for Mexico to join the armed alliance - "to stop US aggression" - and perhaps place nuclear weapon in Mexico pointed at the US and Canada - what do you think the US would do?  Sit idly by and watch it happen?

Wars end with with rational people engaging in rapprochement, dialogue, trade and respect for the security and sovereignty of all nations.  Not by attempting to beat the nations of the world into hegemonic compliance.

You actually didn't call it a war.

This isn't Moscow.

Fought on borders?

Are you having a laugh.

Are playgrounds in Kyiv on the border?

[Jingthing]

22 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

Sick... with what Putin is doing in Ukraine Prayut must want to upset the EU.

Best of luck with any future trade talks and investment in Thailand.

He'll probably get a pass. The west has bigger fish to fry than Make Believe Land.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Emster23 said:

There is the possibility Putin will be turfed out by Nov 18. Could he come as a private citizen?

In that case he'd be offed in Russia. But his replacement might be worse.

[gearbox]

24 minutes ago, Gknrd said:

Tough times ahead for Thailand for sure. Scary times... wow

I looked at my gf this morning, she didn't look scared at all. I asked her if she knows what APEC is, she has no idea. The majority of the Thais are not interested in geopolitics, probably not even in countries nearby. I bet most don't know who is the head of state of Cambodia.

[hotandsticky]

25 minutes ago, TTSIssues said:

Putin, Xi and Prayut are all unelected dictators so clearly show a similar mindset.

 

i cannot believe that Putin would attend in person, but you never know as apparently he is going to attend the G20 in Bali.

 

there is clearly a massive target on him from so many people - so will be interesting to see if he makes it out alive. 

 

 

No way will he leave Russia.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

No way will he leave Russia.

I wouldn't think that he would either. Makes him very vulnerable to a coup back home.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, connda said:

A golden opportunity for what? 

What do you think?

[crazykopite]

Great opportunity for you know what  ???? 

[bangon04]

1 hour ago, In the jungle said:

In the unlikely event that Putin turns up I do not doubt that he would have his own security goons with him.

I remember "meeting" Putin in 2003 during the APEC then. The lift doors opened at the Intercontinental and I looked down to see Putin snarling up at me. His 2 bodyguards filled the rest of the lift and said "Take Next Lift"...........

[sirhowie]

Let him come then issue international arrest warrant and hook him back to Ukraine. He won’t leave his bunker just like hitler history repeating itself. 
who will give him the cynide capsule I’ll donate the petrol

whoever takes over from him can’t be as stupid and ruthless .
and hopefully peace can be restored. 

[choff56]

5 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Ukrainian assassins blending in with crowd on his arrival ? 

All you would need is a little Vodka and a Thai hotel railing.

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, connda said:

Why not call them pigs, orcs, and sub-humans?

Those engaging in dehumanizing name calling obviously haven't studies history.
The rhetoric of hatred is exactly what creates the conditions of war. Dehumanizing those whom you hate makes you feel morally superior. Your leaders start the Song of War and their loyal citizenry fall in as the chorus in four part harmony.  War is money for many institutions and corporations. They furnish the orchestra.  Ethnic hatred fuels their profits.  And ya'll willingly participate.  It's really sad to watch.

President Putin and General Secretary Xi are rational actors.  Neither have anything to gain by war.  The current special military operation in Ukraine is being fought on Russia's border.  If China for instance created a military coalition of Central American countries and then clamored for Mexico to join the armed alliance - "to stop US aggression" - and perhaps place nuclear weapon in Mexico pointed at the US and Canada - what do you think the US would do?  Sit idly by and watch it happen?

Wars end with with rational people engaging in rapprochement, dialogue, trade and respect for the security and sovereignty of all nations.  Not by attempting to beat the nations of the world into hegemonic compliance.

It was the Kremlin who demonized the Ukrainians as Nazis and terrorists, and who still do. Their rhetoric is similar, ironically, to Hitler's when describing Slavs as untermensch. The stuff coming out of Medvedev's mouth, Lavrov's, Kadyrov's, Zakharova's and Putin's, to name only a few, is vile racist and hate filled. The Ukrainians are their cousins for the most part. Putin declared war on them, never mind attempts at excusing it as an SMO. A rocket attack's a rocket attack whichever way you look at it. Typically, as soon as the Ukrainians fight back, they're held to blame for everything. Just a bully's psychology - dare fight back and we'll totally crush you.

 

Really, Europe and the US should have stepped in back in February. They could have completely destroyed the pathetic Russian advance. But they've left it so late now there's no way to see an end to this mess. Meanwhile Putin can pick off whatever he wants with his artillery and air force. Would the NATO jets respond.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, connda said:

Why not call them pigs, orcs, and sub-humans?

Those engaging in dehumanizing name calling obviously haven't studies history.
The rhetoric of hatred is exactly what creates the conditions of war. Dehumanizing those whom you hate makes you feel morally superior. Your leaders start the Song of War and their loyal citizenry fall in as the chorus in four part harmony.  War is money for many institutions and corporations. They furnish the orchestra.  Ethnic hatred fuels their profits.  And ya'll willingly participate.  It's really sad to watch.

President Putin and General Secretary Xi are rational actors.  Neither have anything to gain by war.  The current special military operation in Ukraine is being fought on Russia's border.  If China for instance created a military coalition of Central American countries and then clamored for Mexico to join the armed alliance - "to stop US aggression" - and perhaps place nuclear weapon in Mexico pointed at the US and Canada - what do you think the US would do?  Sit idly by and watch it happen?

Wars end with with rational people engaging in rapprochement, dialogue, trade and respect for the security and sovereignty of all nations.  Not by attempting to beat the nations of the world into hegemonic compliance.

Actually, I am morally superior to putin. Of course the Morally Superior bar is set pretty low when a psychopath killer is the standard.

 

Rational actor? Bombing schools, hospitals, shopping malls and markets?

 

putin falls into that historical category of vile miscreants like hitler (yes, Godwin's Law revoked), stalin, mao, pol pot, idi amin and others......the embodiment of evil.

 

If putin is your standard for morality and rational acting, then Hell is actually a paradise with great barbecue and sun tanning with copious amounts of SPF666.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Walker88

[gearbox]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Actually, I am morally superior to putin. Of course the Morally Superior bar is set pretty low when a psychopath killer is the standard.

 

Rational actor? Bombing schools, hospitals, shopping malls and markets?

 

If putin is your standard for morality and rational acting, then Hell is actually a paradise with great barbecue and sun tanning with copious amounts of SPF666.

Biden called him a rational actor yesterday. It is in the news.

[anandra]

48 minutes ago, gearbox said:

I looked at my gf this morning, she didn't look scared at all. I asked her if she knows what APEC is, she has no idea. The majority of the Thais are not interested in geopolitics, probably not even in countries nearby. I bet most don't know who is the head of state of Cambodia.

I still disagree, just because your gf does  knows a little, it does not mean the majority of the thais know nothing about the world. 99% of Thais I contacted are completely aware of the war in Ukraine. 

[Artisi]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Yeh inviting a war criminal that should boost Thailands incredability,.

Why not, they have a convicted drug runner in the government, maybe the two of them can be buddies for a few days.