Jailed and blacklisted: Frenchmen in attack on Thai man ordered held by court - driver is Hua Hin man with Thai wife

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

...and the Frenchman 'retaliated' so hard that he put the Thai in intensive care. How could that be mitigated?

Unnessary excess force so not self defence.

 

They or at least the main offender deserve at least 1 year in jail.

[Gottfrid]

25 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I never understand the open hatred many posters show for other white men.

I also never understand why some people say a bad white person ruins it for all of us.

I'm not French, I don't much like any French people, what they do is no reflection (good or bad) on me!

Maybe if I were a racist, I'd consider all white men my brothers, but I'm not, so I don't. 

No, I do not understand the ongoing hatred against Thai people and the always protective reactions against foreigners either. That´s why I work opposite. After all, I am in Thailand so it just seems like the right thing to do. All who not like it, can find another place in the world. 

Edited October 18, 2022 by Gottfrid

[2009]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Selective editing.

 

They cut the part out immediately before this where the Frenchman started walking away and the Thai guy goes after him and throws a leg kick. I haven't seen it from the start either, but the longest edit I saw showed this.

 

Starts with the Frenchman getting up off the floor (presumably he was knocked down there and didn't choose to sit down in the road of his own accord).

Thai guy kicks him.

French guy throws a punch that knocks the Thai over.

French guy starts walking away

Thai gets up and goes after him again throwing another leg kick.

Then the part shown by the Youtube video with the kick and the final punch by the Frenchman.

 

It didn't show who started it but it did shows that this wasn't a one sided attack. Far from it. 

This is gonna be a tough pill for the Thai apologists to swallow.

[Gottfrid]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

You are only seeing bias because you are bias.

 

Watch the video. 

No one is suggesting the French guys are not wrong for their actions, but, a lot of ppl have identified that the Thai guy is not as innocent as the reports and some comments suggest. 
 

The Thai guy is clearly a willing participant in the fight and complicit in his own injuries. 
 

 

BBOB (For you to see as Big Bunch Of Bull)

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Daily News suggested there had been a collision without giving further evidence. 

why not provide the all evidence, what is there to hide.... smells fishy

[Sparktrader]

3 minutes ago, 2009 said:

This is gonna be a tough pill for the Thai apologists to swallow.

Post a link

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

BBOB (For you to see as Big Bunch Of Bull)

Just watch the video with an open mind. 
 

Do you see the Thai guy kicking out at the French guy ? 

[2009]

11 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

why not provide the all evidence, what is there to hide.... smells fishy

Can't ruin the, "big, bad, rich,  Farang" story.

 

The media only care about the story, not the truth.

[alex8912]

He's a little crazy. Why would a younger foreigner live with a younger Thai in Hua Hin? 

[Screaming]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

It could matter from a legal perspective. 

It definitely (IMO) matters from a moral perspective, the French guy could be seen to walk away when the Thai guy re-escalated with a kick.

 

 

This doesn’t appear to be the ‘cold unprovoked one sided assault’ reported in the media. 

It was a two sided fight which could be considered a mitigating circumstance.

 

 

There is still a lot missing from the story.  

So true, the media is only showing the part they want the public to see. Who hit whom in the accident prior to the fight? It appears to me from the anger of the French person that his vehicle was hit by the motorbike. The Thai person is a typical Thai fighter, hitting when someone walks away. The french person was only defending himself and should claim self defense in court.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

It's clear that the Frenchman put the Thai in ICU, unnecessarily, what does it matter how it started?  

Of course it matters. Legally and morally there is a huge difference between acting in self defense and an unprovoked attack. 

[Sparktrader]

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Just watch the video with an open mind. 
 

Do you see the Thai guy kicking out at the French guy ? 

Post a link

[Sparktrader]

12 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Can't ruin the, "big, bad, rich,  Farang" story.

 

The media only care about the story, not the truth.

Western media is worse

[cardinalblue]

He threw a punch….he didn’t swing a 2x4….

 

Was his intent to do bodily harm with a punch? The good news is there is lots of evidence when one punch kills someone and how that is classified….just follow similar cases for charges

 

sounds like the wife gave a lot of bs about nice car, wish I had one, stopping for directions etc

 

if in fact motorcycle hit Porsche accidentally or not…her credibility is shot 

[BritScot]

3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Sure! Would have sounded a little bit different if the tables were turned, right? As usual, defend the mad foreigners at all costs. My vote is on that everyone who defends such bad people coming to Thailand should be deported as well.

What an attitude! Very short memories of tourists being beaten to a pulp by gangs of Thai men and yes old western men and women just walking down the road set on and ending up in icu. Very bitter.

[2009]

4 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

sounds like the wife gave a lot of bs about nice car, wish I had one, stopping for directions etc

 

if in fact motorcycle hit Porsche accidentally or not…her credibility is shot 

Her story always sounded strange to me.

 

Clearly, she is just trying to cover for her husband who got involved in a fight willingly.

 

And trying to make it look like an unprovoked attack. Next, she'll be wanting compensation. Mark my words.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sparktrader]

7 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

He threw a punch….he didn’t swing a 2x4….

 

Was his intent to do bodily harm with a punch? The good news is there is lots of evidence when one punch kills someone and how that is classified….just follow similar cases for charges

 

sounds like the wife gave a lot of bs about nice car, wish I had one, stopping for directions etc

 

if in fact motorcycle hit Porsche accidentally or not…her credibility is shot 

Excess force

 

Just use a headlock and throw the guy away or trip him over.

 

These guys are 55 to 60 kgs.

[Sparktrader]

2 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Her story always sounded strange to me.

 

Clearly, she is just trying to cover for her husband who got involved in a fight willingly.

 

And trying to make it look like an unprovoked attack. Next, she'll be wanting compensation. Mark my words.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

200,000 baht or jail

 

Be a good deal

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

You are only seeing bias because you are bias.

 

Watch the video. 

No one is suggesting the French guys are not wrong for their actions, but, a lot of ppl have identified that the Thai guy is not as innocent as the reports and some comments suggest. 
 

The Thai guy is clearly a willing participant in the fight and complicit in his own injuries. 
 

 

There wouldn't have been a fight if they hadn't stopped the car and got out.

[Screaming]

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

Her story always sounded strange to me.

 

Clearly, she is just trying to cover for her husband who got involved in a fight willingly.

 

And trying to make it look like an unprovoked attack. Next, she'll be wanting compensation. Mark my words.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It sounds like she was jealous and possibly did some damage to the Porsche. I hope the French guy gets a really good attorney and exposes these frauds. 

[giddyup]

14 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Of course it matters. Legally and morally there is a huge difference between acting in self defense and an unprovoked attack. 

They stopped the car and got out. The French guy is 100% in the wrong.

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Screaming said:

It sounds like she was jealous and possibly did some damage to the Porsche. I hope the French guy gets a really good attorney and exposes these frauds. 

"Sounds like and possibly" Where are your facts?

[2009]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

They stopped the car and got out. The French guy is 100% in the wrong.

Didn't the Thai guy get off his bike too and approach?

 

Doesn't that make it 50/50?

[jesimps]

I've feeling that there's more to this story then what we've seen or heard and I haven't a clue who was at fault. One thing is certain though and that is if you're a foreigner here and you want to have your visa extended when the time comes, you must keep your nose clean. Whatever the provocation, unless your life is in danger, just walk away. Trying not to put locals in intensive care is a given.

[giddyup]

Just now, 2009 said:

Didn't the Thai guy get off his bike too and approach?

 

Doesn't that make it 50/50?

No. They could have just kept driving.

[2009]

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

They stopped the car and got out. The French guy is 100% in the wrong.

There's also talk now of their being contact between the vehicles, in which case you are legally obligated to stop to deal with insurance.

 

 

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

There wouldn't have been a fight if they hadn't stopped the car and got out.

Agreed…..  now, why did they do that ? 
 

… the only reason I’d stop my car & get out is to discuss any damage caused…

so… what really happened ?…..  motorcycle scratched the car ? Motorcyclist tried to escape ?  Situation escalated to a fight ? French guy angry fought straight away ??…..

 

As has been written, we are not getting anywhere near the full story here. 
 

[2009]

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

No. They could have just kept driving.

But you said it was 100% is farang's fault.

 

The Thai could have kept driving too, by your logic.

Edited October 18, 2022 by 2009

[giddyup]

Just now, 2009 said:

There's also talk now of their being contact between the vehicles, in which case you are legally obligated to stop to deal with insurance.

 

 

If that was true, there's a big difference between exchanging insurance details and putting a guy into a coma.

[richard_smith237]

5 minutes ago, giddyup said:

They stopped the car and got out. The French guy is 100% in the wrong.

Thai guy got off his motorcycle too….  The fight looks to be both guys behaving aggressively.