Making friends with Thai men.

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

Red-light district oriented (75%)

A large part of this comes from observing where the Thai male bashers are geographically located. Pattaya is definitely an epicenter for this activity. The "I only talk to Thai women" mentality is only sustainable in a red-light district one-night stand environment. As soon as you get out of that setting it's next to impossible to avoid interacting with Thai males because

Guys in Pattaya say they arent there for that stuff.

[Gecko123]

7 minutes ago, bob smith said:

you are obviously an intelligent guy, gecko. it's just a crying shame that your knowledge and opinions on this topic are totally misguided. it's kind of disappointing. 

I hope you get over your disappointment, Bob, really I do, but what you should be asking yourself is how many of those criteria apply to you. My impression is that you may be in danger of being chewed up and spit out by Thailand down the road. Just a word of advice from the river watcher.

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

My impression is that you may be in danger of being chewed up and spit out by Thailand down the road. Just a word of advice from the river watcher.

if that day ever comes then so be it. let's face it, there are many better places to live than here. Thailand is not the be all and end all!! 

[HighPriority]

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[Gecko123]

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

if that day ever comes then so be it. let's face it, there are many better places to live than here. Thailand is not the be all and end all!! 

I wasn't talking about the kind of chewing up and spitting out where you're escorted off the premises.

[Golden Triangle]

5 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I think my post categorizing Thai male bashers hit the target squarely on the nose. The few peripheral potshots and personal attacks it elicited only served to bolster my confidence that it was on the money. These assessments were made after careful and long term observation of who is behind the Thai bashing on the forum. No, I don't have spreadsheets and statistics, but these observations weren't made casually or pulled out of a hat on the spur of the moment either.  Insights into how these conclusions were reached are shared below:

 

The profile of the Thai male basher:

 

1. Can't speak Thai (98%)

A large number of the people who engage in this activity have indicated at one time or another that their Thai language skills are at best very rudimentary. Another huge reason for reaching this conclusion is the knowledge that obtaining a high degree of proficiency in Thai requires such an enormous investment of time and effort (I estimate 8,000 hours) that every resource available to acquire that high degree of proficiency would have to be marshaled.. No one trying to reach that level of proficiency could afford the luxury of avoiding Thai male speakers, and having made this investment in time and effort, no one could afford to avoid Thai males because they are too valuable a resource to help maintain their level of proficiency. Finally, anyone who had reached a high level of proficiency in Thai would have had ample opportunity to recognize the humanity, character and personality of Thai males, making their demonization and dehumanization next to impossible.  

 

2. Red-light district oriented (75%)

A large part of this comes from observing where the Thai male bashers are geographically located. Pattaya is definitely an epicenter for this activity. The "I only talk to Thai women" mentality is only sustainable in a red-light district one-night stand environment. As soon as you get out of that setting it's next to impossible to avoid interacting with Thai males because any Thai significant other you have is going to have interaction with Thai males, be it family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc.

 

3. Racist (99%)

There is a very high correlation between posters making negative comments about Thai males and racist posts about Indians, Chinese, Arabs, non-white politicians in the West, hostility to BLM, hostility to non-white immigration to home countries, etc. Almost a 100% correlation.

 

4. Socially isolated (89%)

Quite a number of the most vociferous Thai male bashers also have extremely high post counts and average posts/day which is telling me that they are spending an inordinate amounts of time in solitary activities. Also, anyone who has such a deep-seated hostility towards half the Thai population is not likely to have much of a social life here in Thailand.

 

5. Substance abuser (70%)

You can get a pretty good idea of who is posting while inebriated. Many posters openly admit to it. Super high post counts, becoming overly animated, and having an exaggerated opinion of one's wittiness or humorousness are further signs of this. This posting behavior is frequently observed in posters who engage in Thai male bashing.

 

6. Working class employment and educational background (99%)

Deduced from background information shared over time, the quality of posts, grammatical skills, etc. Do ASEANNOW's best and brightest posters engage in Thai bashing or wallow in other forms of grievance politics? No, they do not. Finally, if you use Jared Diamond's broad definition of intelligence as "the ability to extract benefit from one's environment," anybody who limits the potential resources available to them based on arbitrary criteria such as race or religion or gender, in my opinion, is by definition not as smart as they would otherwise be.

 

7. Suffering from age-related health problems (90%)

Largely based on average age of forum members, anecdotal disclosure, suspected sedentary lifestyle, anecdotal disclosures about diet, alcohol and tobacco consumption.

 

Biggest load of ballcocks I have ever read.

[itsari]

On 10/28/2022 at 3:13 PM, Lacessit said:

Travel broadens the mind, right?

The vast bulk of Thais have been circumscribed within an education system that barely takes notice of any events outside Thailand. Many can't read a map of their own country, let alone one of the world. It makes for very narrow minds.

 

It's not just Thailand, there are areas of Australia where I would have to dumb myself down in speech and subject matter to be accepted.

Last paragraph incorrect , just include the whole country .

[itsari]

5 hours ago, bob smith said:

if that day ever comes then so be it. let's face it, there are many better places to live than here. Thailand is not the be all and end all!! 

And what country is utopia ???

[1FinickyOne]

17 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

I was in CM 2 months ago. 

its changed a lot since then. 

[1FinickyOne]

13 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

I think my post categorizing Thai male bashers hit the target squarely on the nose. The few peripheral potshots and personal attacks it elicited only served to bolster my confidence that it was on the money. These assessments were made after careful and long term observation of who is behind the Thai bashing on the forum. No, I don't have spreadsheets and statistics, but these observations weren't made casually or pulled out of a hat on the spur of the moment either.  Insights into how these conclusions were reached are shared below:

 

The profile of the Thai male basher:

 

1. Can't speak Thai (98%)

A large number of the people who engage in this activity have indicated at one time or another that their Thai language skills are at best very rudimentary. Another huge reason for reaching this conclusion is the knowledge that obtaining a high degree of proficiency in Thai requires such an enormous investment of time and effort (I estimate 8,000 hours) that every resource available to acquire that high degree of proficiency would have to be marshaled.. No one trying to reach that level of proficiency could afford the luxury of avoiding Thai male speakers, and having made this investment in time and effort, no one could afford to avoid Thai males because they are too valuable a resource to help maintain their level of proficiency. Finally, anyone who had reached a high level of proficiency in Thai would have had ample opportunity to recognize the humanity, character and personality of Thai males, making their demonization and dehumanization next to impossible.  

 

2. Red-light district oriented (75%)

A large part of this comes from observing where the Thai male bashers are geographically located. Pattaya is definitely an epicenter for this activity. The "I only talk to Thai women" mentality is only sustainable in a red-light district one-night stand environment. As soon as you get out of that setting it's next to impossible to avoid interacting with Thai males because any Thai significant other you have is going to have interaction with Thai males, be it family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc.

 

3. Racist (99%)

There is a very high correlation between posters making negative comments about Thai males and racist posts about Indians, Chinese, Arabs, non-white politicians in the West, hostility to BLM, hostility to non-white immigration to home countries, etc. Almost a 100% correlation.

 

4. Socially isolated (89%)

Quite a number of the most vociferous Thai male bashers also have extremely high post counts and average posts/day which is telling me that they are spending an inordinate amounts of time in solitary activities. Also, anyone who has such a deep-seated hostility towards half the Thai population is not likely to have much of a social life here in Thailand.

 

5. Substance abuser (70%)

You can get a pretty good idea of who is posting while inebriated. Many posters openly admit to it. Super high post counts, becoming overly animated, and having an exaggerated opinion of one's wittiness or humorousness are further signs of this. This posting behavior is frequently observed in posters who engage in Thai male bashing.

 

6. Working class employment and educational background (99%)

Deduced from background information shared over time, the quality of posts, grammatical skills, etc. Do ASEANNOW's best and brightest posters engage in Thai bashing or wallow in other forms of grievance politics? No, they do not. Finally, if you use Jared Diamond's broad definition of intelligence as "the ability to extract benefit from one's environment," anybody who limits the potential resources available to them based on arbitrary criteria such as race or religion or gender, in my opinion, is by definition not as smart as they would otherwise be.

 

7. Suffering from age-related health problems (90%)

Largely based on average age of forum members, anecdotal disclosure, suspected sedentary lifestyle, anecdotal disclosures about diet, alcohol and tobacco consumption.

 

98.65% correct...

[1FinickyOne]

On 10/28/2022 at 7:19 PM, Simple Jack said:

I'd like to think he meant ugly on the inside.

you mean like intestines and bowels? 

[spidermike007]

Same experience here. My sense of it is that most are very closed minded, and totally lacking in curiosity about the outside world. Have found some who are friendly, but none who really want to get to know us. 

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, 1FinickyOne said:

98.65% correct...

86.7% of stats are made up

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

No, I don't have spreadsheets and statistics, but these observations weren't made casually or pulled out of a hat on the spur of the moment either.  Insights into how these conclusions were reached are shared below:

Doesn't matter how you reached those conclusions, if you can't prove those %.  Even if correct, it's still your opinion. I'm often accused of not giving a link when I only giving an opinion, and you are claiming your stats as fact.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

The profile of the Thai male basher:

Other than saying not to drink with Thai males, I doubt I've ever bashed Thai males generally, though I have had problems with individual Thai males, as with males of many countries.

 

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

2. Red-light district oriented (75%)

A large part of this comes from observing where the Thai male bashers are geographically located. Pattaya is definitely an epicenter for this activity.

Adding 2+2 and coming up with 2,000.

Many farangs live in Pattaya and spend no time whatsoever in bars or any other thing related to prostitution.

Some do and some don't.

 

Based on your argument, any males living near King's Cross station in London could be a monger as hookers operate in that vicinity.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

3. Racist (99%)

There is a very high correlation between posters making negative comments about Thai males and racist posts about Indians, Chinese, Arabs, non-white politicians in the West, hostility to BLM, hostility to non-white immigration to home countries, etc. Almost a 100% correlation.

LOL. You are using the posters on here to come to a conclusion about all farang males. The posters on here would be a minority of farang males living in LOS.

If you are confining your observations to posters on this forum, you should say so.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

4. Socially isolated (89%)

Quite a number of the most vociferous Thai male bashers also have extremely high post counts and average posts/day which is telling me that they are spending an inordinate amounts of time in solitary activities. Also, anyone who has such a deep-seated hostility towards half the Thai population is not likely to have much of a social life here in Thailand.

Depends on the social life, doesn't it? Spending time socialising with BGs is not the same as playing tennis with hiso Thais.

 

I spent a lot of time on TVF during the 2000s because I was at work and the nature of my work allowed me plenty of time to post on TVF during the day.

 

When I lived in LOS, I spent less time on it because I didn't have a computer on line, and had to use internet cafes.

The last year when I lived in an hotel I spent too much time on it because it was too hot to go out and I had wifi.

 

I spend too much time on it now, in a vain attempt to keep some sort of link to the country I loved alive.

Eventually I may tire of it and do something more productive

 

None of the above is proof that I bash Thai males.

I just wasn't interested in making friends with them.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

5. Substance abuser (70%)

You can get a pretty good idea of who is posting while inebriated. Many posters openly admit to it. Super high post counts, becoming overly animated, and having an exaggerated opinion of one's wittiness or humorousness are further signs of this. This posting behavior is frequently observed in posters who engage in Thai male bashing.

Haven't drunk alcohol for 30 years and don't do illegal drugs.

Next?

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

6. Working class employment and educational background (99%)

Deduced from background information shared over time, the quality of posts, grammatical skills, etc. Do ASEANNOW's best and brightest posters engage in Thai bashing or wallow in other forms of grievance politics? No, they do not.

I'm of upper middle class origins, went to the best private schools, joined the military for a few years, became a nurse for the rest of my working life.

If that makes me a working class stiff of poor educational background, so be it.

 

BTW, I very much doubt that your opinion of ASEANNOW's best and brightest posters is the same as my own. I would probably be accurate to say 180 degrees opposed.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

7. Suffering from age-related health problems (90%)

Largely based on average age of forum members, anecdotal disclosure, suspected sedentary lifestyle, anecdotal disclosures about diet, alcohol and tobacco consumption.

LOL. Anyone of advanced age is going to have age related health problems, regardless of opinion of Thai males.

I don't even understand why you included it, unless you consider not being anti Thai males males makes old people healthy.

[BritManToo]

18 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

6. Working class employment and educational background (99%)

Deduced from background information shared over time, the quality of posts, grammatical skills, etc. Do ASEANNOW's best and brightest posters engage in Thai bashing or wallow in other forms of grievance politics? No, they do not. Finally, if you use Jared Diamond's broad definition of intelligence as "the ability to extract benefit from one's environment," anybody who limits the potential resources available to them based on arbitrary criteria such as race or religion or gender, in my opinion, is by definition not as smart as they would otherwise be.

I'm betting you and your parents were working class and you have no degree.

Why would you expect the rest of us to be any different?

 

As for the OP,

Why would I want to be friends with guys that know nothing about anything?

(Thai or foreigner)

Edited October 31, 2022 by BritManToo

[ChaiyaTH]

I have quite a few male Thai friends but to be honest, all of them behave as if they are 10-15 years younger, even they might not with their job or business itself.

 

Usually they bore me, only for socialising with food and drinks, as they can never make any decision themselves and basically behave like teenagers, also in what they like to do.

 

Those who are different, are usually just as busy as I am, so we rarely meet, but very few of them.

Edited October 31, 2022 by ChaiyaTH

[ChaiyaTH]

On 10/29/2022 at 10:21 AM, stoner said:

4 minutes. 4 inches. 4000.

 

The correct saying is Saam Saam Saam, 3 inch, 3 minutes, 3000 baht. Not 4.

[PremiumLane]

On 10/29/2022 at 7:30 PM, Orinoco said:

I meant to say homophobic, and yes he/she  did play that card. 

But hey,  that's the way some people like there mop flopped, up to them.

I don't feel persecuted in anyway, why would I ?

I can still smack someone if needed. 

 

 

I know you meant the homophobic card ???? 

 

How do I get a hold of these cards, how do I play them?

[Orinoco]

9 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

I know you meant the homophobic card ???? 

 

How do I get a hold of these cards, how do I play them?

You can try Google.

[PremiumLane]

13 minutes ago, Orinoco said:

You can try Google.

Yeah, the double facepalm is quite apt for your reply ???? 

[Orinoco]

32 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

Yeah, the double facepalm is quite apt for your reply ???? 

What's your problem.

Your starting to look very smart now.

 

[Smokegreynblues]

I have been here for close to decade. I was 23 when I came, I noticed, that male thais usually form their friendship bonds earlier in school and carry them for life, or university. I was making significant friends when I was hanging out with the university ones who were interested in other cultures. Fast forward to my 30s. I have thai male friends less than say 4 or 5. Even the ones I have i barely see once a year.  I assume, people are wary of friends in older age , or they already have enough that they don't need one. Especially who speak a different language. I do however have some friends who have many Thai friends, but they are all of Asian decent and can relate to the culture better. Most became friends with their GFs group of friends and thats how they ended up together. Also, I wouldnt advice making friends with Thai guys who speak only Thai as misunderstandings can result in violent clashes. If the Thais are well educated, educated abroad, or lived abroad on a work holiday, they are much more relatable and easier to be friends with as they understand your culture or atleast are open about it. Yes, I often do get asked as why do you come to Thailand, and do you like thai women, You just dodge the question as it is an answer to judge you. 

[Expat68]

In the town where I live, I am a member of their cycling group, made up of ladies and men, I have many friends 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Expat68 said:

In the town where I live, I am a member of their cycling group, made up of ladies and men, I have many friends 

Friends or acquaintances?

How many would let you stay with them for up to a month? I have a friend that let me stay that long a number of times, some just couple nights.

I have loads of acquaintances, and not many friends.