North Korea fires 23 missiles, one landing off South Korean coast for first time

[onthedarkside]

 

SEOUL, Nov 2 (Reuters) - North Korea fired at least 23 missiles into the sea on Wednesday, including one that landed less than 60 km (40 miles) off South Korea's coast, which the South's President Yoon Suk-yeol described as "territorial encroachment".

 

It was the first time a ballistic missile had landed near the South's waters since the peninsula was divided in 1945, and the most missiles fired by the North in a single day. South Korea issued rare air raid warnings and launched its own missiles in response.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/north-korea-fires-ballistic-missile-says-south-korean-military-2022-11-02/

 

[onthedarkside]

North and South Korea exchange missile launches as tensions ratchet up even further

Seoul, South Korea — Air raid sirens sounded on a South Korean island and residents there evacuated to underground shelters after North Korea fired at least 17 missiles Wednesday, at least one of them in its direction and landing near the rivals' tense sea border, the South's military said. South Korea quickly responded by launching its own missiles in the same border area.

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The launches came hours after North Korea threatened to use nuclear weapons to get the U.S. and South Korea to "pay the most horrible price in history" in protest of the ongoing South Korean-U.S. military drills that it views as an invasion rehearsal.

 

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-south-korea-dueling-missile-tests/

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

15 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

The launches came hours after North Korea threatened to use nuclear weapons to get the U.S. and South Korea to "pay the most horrible price in history" in protest of the ongoing South Korean-U.S. military drills that it views as an invasion rehearsal.

 

The USA and S.K need to stop provoking North Korea . 

No need for military drills in the area , they just provoke a reaction and escalation 

[vandeventer]

15 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The USA and S.K need to stop provoking North Korea . 

No need for military drills in the area , they just provoke a reaction and escalation 

Kim is just flexing his muscles, want he really wants is Trump back in the White house. Roll on November 8.

[2baht]

15 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

North Korea fired at least 23 missiles

I wonder how many North Koreans starved to pay for that? 

[2baht]

18 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

want he really wants is Trump back in the White house.

Yes, communists and rednecks!

[Eric Loh]

16 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The USA and S.K need to stop provoking North Korea . 

No need for military drills in the area , they just provoke a reaction and escalation 

NK was firing misslles even before the joint military exercise. Just who is the provocateur.  

[ballpoint]

Testing a new batch before sending the remainder to Russia?

[Hanaguma]

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Kim is just flexing his muscles, want he really wants is Trump back in the White house. Roll on November 8.

Sure, because Biden is such a keen observer of the Asian geopolitical scene...

[Hanaguma]

One result will be that Japan is going to go on a serious military spending spree.  Up to now, Japan has only been spending about 1% of GDP on defence, but that is going to change. The weapons mix is also changing- VTOL carriers are being built on existing hulls, there is a contract to buy Tomahawk missiles, etc.  Kim may have messed up big time here. Plus he will drive Japan and South Korea together in collective defence, in spite of their bitter differences.

[DezLez]

12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Plus he will drive Japan and South Korea together in collective defence, in spite of their bitter differences.

This may be of interest;

https://thegeopolitics.com/south-korea-and-japan-relations-moving-beyond-the-horizon/

[ThailandRyan]

The whole of Asia is in a mess right now with China and the little man in N.Korea becoming enamored with taking over there adjoining countries it appears.

[vandeventer]

23 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

One result will be that Japan is going to go on a serious military spending spree.  Up to now, Japan has only been spending about 1% of GDP on defence, but that is going to change. The weapons mix is also changing- VTOL carriers are being built on existing hulls, there is a contract to buy Tomahawk missiles, etc.  Kim may have messed up big time here. Plus he will drive Japan and South Korea together in collective defence, in spite of their bitter differences.

This may be true and both countries need to cool down. Kim is confused with the USA as they just don't know which Korea is America's ally the north or the south Korea. Just ask VP Harris she will tell you?

[Hanaguma]

47 minutes ago, DezLez said:

This may be of interest;

https://thegeopolitics.com/south-korea-and-japan-relations-moving-beyond-the-horizon/

Hopefully the new President in SK will be a bit more pragmatic and forward looking than his predecessor. The South unfortunately tends to obsess on past events to an unhealthy extent and it prevents them from focussing on the actual problem, which is of course North Korea. 

[candide]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

One result will be that Japan is going to go on a serious military spending spree.  Up to now, Japan has only been spending about 1% of GDP on defence, but that is going to change. The weapons mix is also changing- VTOL carriers are being built on existing hulls, there is a contract to buy Tomahawk missiles, etc.  Kim may have messed up big time here. Plus he will drive Japan and South Korea together in collective defence, in spite of their bitter differences.

My guess is that NK is actually an excuse for increasing Japan's military power because of the more strategic threat from China.

[Berkshire]

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Kim is just flexing his muscles, want he really wants is Trump back in the White house. Roll on November 8.

I recall that torrid love affair between Trump and Kim Jong being over.  It was Kim Jong that called it off. 

[Hanaguma]

29 minutes ago, candide said:

My guess is that NK is actually an excuse for increasing Japan's military power because of the more strategic threat from China.

I think it can be both. There is a visceral fear of NK due to missiles actually flying OVER Japanese territory that is a lot easier to understand.  China is perhaps the greater threat in reality and in the long run, but North Korea is the "crazy guy next door" that gets a lot of attention.

[vandeventer]

41 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I recall that torrid love affair between Trump and Kim Jong being over.  It was Kim Jong that called it off. 

Yes make peace not war.

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Yes make peace not war.

Like this you mean:

 

On Twitter, Trump said: “South Korea is finding, as I have told them, that their talk of appeasement with North Korea will not work, they (North Korea) only understand one thing!”

It was the latest signal that Trump is losing patience with the international community’s response to the increasingly belligerent regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Last week, Trump tweeted that “talking is not the answer” in terms of dealing with Pyongyang.

On Sunday, Trump also tweeted that North Korea’s “words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-trump-idUSKCN1BE0OB

[ThailandRyan]

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Like this you mean:

 

On Twitter, Trump said: “South Korea is finding, as I have told them, that their talk of appeasement with North Korea will not work, they (North Korea) only understand one thing!”

It was the latest signal that Trump is losing patience with the international community’s response to the increasingly belligerent regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Last week, Trump tweeted that “talking is not the answer” in terms of dealing with Pyongyang.

On Sunday, Trump also tweeted that North Korea’s “words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-trump-idUSKCN1BE0OB

NK's Kim in moving towards completing his nuclear armament is moving towards one goal in his view and that is to be pre-emptive with launches before someone else launches.  This tells me the man is unstable and a cross word could make him believe his country is under threat of attack.....

[candide]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

NK's Kim in moving towards completing his nuclear armament is moving towards one goal in his view and that is to be pre-emptive with launches before someone else launches.  This tells me the man is unstable and a cross word could make him believe his country is under threat of attack.....

I wouldn't bet he's irrational. His main concern is the survival of his regime (basically, himself). Being a nuclear country protects his regime from external intervention. What happened to Sadam Hussain will never happen to him. 

It also protects him internally  because it allows him to stress the argument that the country is under threat and that it justifies his regime.

 

[Hanaguma]

34 minutes ago, candide said:

I wouldn't bet he's irrational. His main concern is the survival of his regime (basically, himself). Being a nuclear country protects his regime from external intervention. What happened to Sadam Hussain will never happen to him. 

It also protects him internally  because it allows him to stress the argument that the country is under threat and that it justifies his regime.

 

There is also the lovely example of Mohamar Khadaffi (sp) who voluntarily gave up his weapons and wound up sodomized in a ditch. 

[JeffersLos]

On 11/2/2022 at 6:01 PM, onthedarkside said:

North Korea fired at least 23 missiles into the sea

 

On 11/2/2022 at 6:01 PM, onthedarkside said:

South Korea launched its own missiles in response.

Also into the sea?

 

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[daveAustin]

On 11/3/2022 at 10:04 PM, candide said:

I wouldn't bet he's irrational. His main concern is the survival of his regime (basically, himself). Being a nuclear country protects his regime from external intervention. What happened to Sadam Hussain will never happen to him. 

It also protects him internally  because it allows him to stress the argument that the country is under threat and that it justifies his regime.

To be fair, he's got a lot to lose. I'd imagine the thought of no longer being surrounded by 2,000+ beautiful concubines would be a horrible one, especially to someone that is extremely glutinous and gross and could never get a girl in real life.

[Scott]

North Korea’s suspected ICBM test fails, South Korean government source says

 

North Korea’s suspected launch of its most powerful intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) failed on Thursday morning, according to a South Korean government source, as Pyongyang intensified its battery of missile tests against a backdrop of US and South Korean military drills that had been scheduled to end on Friday.

However, within hours of the presumed failed test, Washington and Seoul agreed to extend those large-scale exercises until Saturday, according to a statement from the Pentagon.

Earlier Thursday, the South Korean Air Force announced that the two countries had agreed to extend the “Vigilant Storm” military exercises without specifying an end date, saying “it was necessary to demonstrate a solid combined defense posture of the bilateral alliance under the current security crisis, heightened by North Korea’s provocations.”

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/asia/north-korea-missile-thursday-intl-hnk/index.html

[ThailandRyan]

https://www.npr.org/2022/11/05/1134512023/north-korea-launches-missiles-us-flies-bombers

 

More missles launched as the US and S. Korea wrap up their exercises by flying B1B bombers in international airspace.