Biden calls U.S. midterm results ‘good day’ for democracy, admits voters ‘frustrated’

[onthedarkside]

 

U.S. President Joe Biden on Wednesday celebrated the better-than-expected performance of Democrats in Tuesday’s midterm elections, calling the preliminary results a “good day” for democracy and the country.

 

But he admitted the results — which were still trickling in on Wednesday, leaving control of Congress up in the air — showed voters remain concerned with the impacts of high inflation, along with public safety and the rising cost of living.

 

“While the press and the pundits were predicting a giant red wave, we didn’t have it,” Biden told reporters from the White House.

 

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https://globalnews.ca/news/9266085/us-midterms-2022-results-biden/

 

[vandeventer]

Yes the red wave only happen in a few states, but as time marches on and the prices on everything keep going up and the illegal's get much better treatment that the homeless vet's, the Democrats will realize they voted for the wrong party.

[JonnyF]

So almost certainly losing control of the house (and possibly the senate), meaning he can no longer push through his agenda for the rest of his term is a good day for Democracy according to Joe?

 

 

A bit like a football manager claiming a 3-0 defeat was a great result for the league because he was expecting to lose 6-0.

 

 

[Hanaguma]

Joe dodged a bullet on this one. Hopefully one of the takeaways for the GOP is that getting a better brand reputation for the party is crucial. People agreed largely on issues that the GOP championed- economy, inflation, crime, yet they just couldn't pull the lever for GOP candidates in many areas. 

 

And I think we all know why.  The looming presence of the Bad Orange Man. His presence as a disruptor worked in 2016 but does not work in 2022.  Now he is just another former president who lost.  I am sincerely hoping that GOP leadership can recognize this and do what is necessary before 2024. 

 

DeSantis, Kemp, and Abbot showed how it is done. Strong campaigns, stayed on message, delivered concrete results for their respective states. Easier for governors to do than senate/house candidates for sure. But hell, Pennsylvania voted for a radical socialist zombie over a world renowned heart surgeon with actually very moderate political positions. Only reason I can think of is branding. 

[Bluespunk]

17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So almost certainly losing control of the house (and possibly the senate), meaning he can no longer push through his agenda for the rest of his term is a good day for Democracy according to Joe?

 

 

A bit like a football manager claiming a 3-0 defeat was a great result for the league because he was expecting to lose 6-0.

 

 

 Nope, it’s more like one nil down at half time and still lots to play for. Plus the oppositions former captain has turned on the new star and is threatening to torpedo his career if he try’s to prevent him retaking the armband.  
 

Inflation slowing down, USA deficit falling, markets spiking upwards and trump being blamed for the republican not performing anywhere near the levels of past opposition parties in midterm elections. 
 

The light at the end of the maga tunnel is visible. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/10/why-democrats-had-best-midterms-presidents-party-years?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/10/us-inflation-rate-october-consumer-prices-index?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/08/donald-trump-ron-desantis-2024-president-campaign?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Cost of living: Shares jump in US and Asia as inflation cools https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63593361

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/10/economy/us-monthly-budget-deficit-october/index.html

Edited November 11, 2022 by Bluespunk
Typo and made clear trump is former captain

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, onthedarkside said:

But he admitted the results — which were still trickling in on Wednesday, leaving control of Congress up in the air — showed voters remain concerned with the impacts of high inflation, along with public safety and the rising cost of living.

Just worked that out, then?

Seems the fear mongering about nonsense like "the end of democracy" etc just wasn't enough to give him a better result.

If it makes him pay attention to the real issues facing Americans, so much the better. He can still rescue his presidency from irrelevancy if he co operates with the GOP, like Clinton did after his big defeat.

Likely this is the last 2 years he'll be POTUS, so hopefully he will do better.

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

 Nope, it’s more like one nil down at half time and still lots to play for. Plus the oppositions former captain has turned on the new star and is threatening to torpedo his career if he try’s to prevent him retaking the armband.  
 

Inflation slowing down, USA deficit falling, markets spiking upwards and trump being blamed for the republican not performing anywhere near the levels of past opposition parties in midterm elections. 
 

The light at the end of the maga tunnel is visible. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/10/why-democrats-had-best-midterms-presidents-party-years?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/10/us-inflation-rate-october-consumer-prices-index?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/08/donald-trump-ron-desantis-2024-president-campaign?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Cost of living: Shares jump in US and Asia as inflation cools https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63593361

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/10/economy/us-monthly-budget-deficit-october/index.html

Well he's just lost the ability to push through his agenda. So I am not quite sure why he's so happy. His expectations must have been through the floor.

 

I agree that the Republicans need to sort themselves out. To continue the football analogy, the GOP are playing against a team full of "has beens" and "never was" but can't quite finish them off due to silly in-fighting. Trump should step aside now, he had his day in the sun and it's time to let someone else have a go. For every Trump loving MAGA supporter, there is probably a floating voter who can see what a bad job Biden is doing but just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trump. Remove Trump with someone more palatable and the Republicans would hit it out of the park IMO.

[Bluespunk]

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Well he's just lost the ability to push through his agenda. So I am not quite sure why he's so happy. His expectations must have been through the floor.

 

I agree that the Republicans need to sort themselves out. To continue the football analogy, the GOP are playing against a team full of "has beens" and "never was" but can't quite finish them off due to silly in-fighting. Trump should step aside now, he had his day in the sun and it's time to let someone else have a go. For every Trump loving MAGA supporter, there is probably a floating voter who can see what a bad job Biden is doing but just couldn't bring themselves to vote for Trump. Remove Trump with someone more palatable and the Republicans would hit it out of the park IMO.

trump stand aside-that’ll be the day. 
 

No problem with republicans winning and governing when they govern for the country and put personal dictates aside.
 

I may not like them and I will always stand against that which I deem to be the wrong path, but I accept democratic choices. 
 

trump did neither and never will. His narcissism is too engrained. 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

So almost certainly losing control of the house (and possibly the senate), meaning he can no longer push through his agenda for the rest of his term is a good day for Democracy according to Joe?

 

 

A bit like a football manager claiming a 3-0 defeat was a great result for the league because he was expecting to lose 6-0.

 

 

Google gives GOP 48 senate seats (  to 46 Democrat ) and three GOP wins at 99% reporting, which should give the GOP at least a one seat majority without a win in Georgia.

Bye bye Kamala.

 

Going by the number of seats google says are won by the GOP, they take the house by at least 1 seat

Bye Bye Pelosi.

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Google gives GOP 48 senate seats (  to 46 Democrat ) and three GOP wins at 99% reporting, which should give the GOP at least a one seat majority without a win in Georgia.

Bye bye Kamala.

 

Going by the number of seats google says are won by the GOP, they take the house by at least 1 seat

Bye Bye Pelosi.

Interesting.

 

I wonder if we'll get another "victory" dance from Biden if he loses the Senate as well?

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Interesting.

 

I wonder if we'll get another "victory" dance from Biden if he loses the Senate as well?

I'd just love to be in the Oval Office when the senate goes GOP.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Google gives GOP 48 senate seats (  to 46 Democrat ) and three GOP wins at 99% reporting, which should give the GOP at least a one seat majority without a win in Georgia.

Bye bye Kamala.

 

Going by the number of seats google says are won by the GOP, they take the house by at least 1 seat

Bye Bye Pelosi.

For whatever reason, Google is clearly wrong or not including some wins for obscure reasons of its own. There are only 3 outstanding races left. Which means a total of 97 races have been decided. Dems 49 Reps 49.And I can't understand why anyone would give this post a "like" except possibly that they are given to reflexive denialism.

[placeholder]

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'd just love to be in the Oval Office when the senate goes GOP.

Actually, that would be a really good thing. Republicans have proven themselves unable to resist the temptation of reducing access to Social Security and Medicare. The electorate needs to be reminded of what these people stand for. And should the issue of a Supreme replacement come up, Collins and Murkowski, although both are Republicans, know that it's good politics for them to support a pro-Roe justice.

[Chomper Higgot]

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'd just love to be in the Oval Office when the senate goes GOP.

More of the out of touch wishful thinking that was behind all your failed predictions for this midterm election.

 

 

[Berkshire]

Not sure how legit this is, but the Cook Political Report just called the AZ senate race for Kelley (D).  So now it's 49 to 49.  

 

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breaking-democrat-mark-kelly-defeats-blake-masters-in-key-senate-race-per-cook-political-report/ar-AA13Z52n?ocid=wispr&cvid=47b9e76346f24ffab4bb041281e9e550

[candide]

Apart from Trump, the way the GOP campaigned is also responsible for its limited performance.

 

Instead of designing workable policies and promoting them, they just campaigned on Biden bad, bad! It made it easier for Biden to counter attack with MAGA bad, bad!

[placeholder]

5 hours ago, candide said:

Apart from Trump, the way the GOP campaigned is also responsible for its limited performance.

 

Instead of designing workable policies and promoting them, they just campaigned on Biden bad, bad! It made it easier for Biden to counter attack with MAGA bad, bad!

They've actually offered no plan on how to   reduce inflation.

[candide]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

They've actually offered no plan on how to   reduce inflation.

Exactly. Only Biden bad, bad!

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Not sure how legit this is, but the Cook Political Report just called the AZ senate race for Kelley (D).  So now it's 49 to 49.  

 

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breaking-democrat-mark-kelly-defeats-blake-masters-in-key-senate-race-per-cook-political-report/ar-AA13Z52n?ocid=wispr&cvid=47b9e76346f24ffab4bb041281e9e550

Either party only needs 2 to win a majority. Suspenseful much! Lots of nail biting till Georgia is called.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, candide said:

Exactly. Only Biden bad, bad!

Exactly, just like certain posters used to refer to a different president. LOL.

[placeholder]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Either party only needs 2 to win a majority. Suspenseful much! Lots of nail biting till Georgia is called.

Actually, if the Democrats win in Nevada, the nail biting will be over. And the results of that race will be known well before the Georgia election.

[Berkshire]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Either party only needs 2 to win a majority. Suspenseful much! Lots of nail biting till Georgia is called.

You are correct.  But if the Dems manage to win in AZ and NV, game over.  GA won't matter.  So it could be over in a day or two. 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

You are correct.  But if the Dems manage to win in AZ and NV, game over.  GA won't matter.  So it could be over in a day or two. 

Over in a day or 2... How long has it been already?

 

Incredible how long it takes to get the results in US elections. Surely it can't be that complicated. The drawn out process just adds fuel to the fire of those who suggest something shady is afoot.

 

Reminds me of boxing when it takes 15 minutes for the judges to hand in their scorecards. It's not necessarily corruption, but the optics are terrible.

[Eric Loh]

18 hours ago, Berkshire said:

Not sure how legit this is, but the Cook Political Report just called the AZ senate race for Kelley (D).  So now it's 49 to 49.  

 

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breaking-democrat-mark-kelly-defeats-blake-masters-in-key-senate-race-per-cook-political-report/ar-AA13Z52n?ocid=wispr&cvid=47b9e76346f24ffab4bb041281e9e550

Latest. CNN projected winner for AZ senate race will be Kelly. Should be done and dusted. Another Trump endorsed candidate hit the dust by a wide margin. 

[Eric Loh]

AZ Secretary of State election Mark Finchem project to lose. Another extreme far right election denier bite the dust. 

[Berkshire]

52 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Over in a day or 2... How long has it been already?

 

Incredible how long it takes to get the results in US elections. Surely it can't be that complicated. The drawn out process just adds fuel to the fire of those who suggest something shady is afoot.

 

Reminds me of boxing when it takes 15 minutes for the judges to hand in their scorecards. It's not necessarily corruption, but the optics are terrible.

It's just the nature of elections, 50 states, hundreds of districts, millions of voters, different laws, etc.  But it's the closeness of the races that leads to delays.  There's still counting going on all over the US, but if a winner has already been declared, nobody will care what the final numbers are.  These two races in NV and AZ are close, so every last vote matters.

 

If the Rep wins Nevada, we'll have to wait at least a month for the runoff in GA to find out who controls the Senate. 

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Over in a day or 2... How long has it been already?

 

Incredible how long it takes to get the results in US elections. Surely it can't be that complicated. The drawn out process just adds fuel to the fire of those who suggest something shady is afoot.

 

Reminds me of boxing when it takes 15 minutes for the judges to hand in their scorecards. It's not necessarily corruption, but the optics are terrible.

Pretty pathetic IMO.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Pretty pathetic IMO.

Would a rushed job with few safeguards against mistakes or fraud be less pathetic?

[candide]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Incredible how long it takes to get the results in US elections. Surely it can't be that complicated. The drawn out process just adds fuel to the fire of those who suggest something shady is afoot.

Less than not being able to show that everything has been done by the book, because of a rushed process.

Anyway, who cares about those who "suggest"? They will creatively invent their own "fuel", as they did before.

[Saanim]

4 hours ago, Berkshire said:

It's just the nature of elections, 50 states, hundreds of districts, millions of voters, different laws, etc. 

It would be quite boring to get the business finished just over weekend as other - not so developed - countries do. 

After so many time and money invested in, the population needs to be further entertained.