nigelforbes Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 I hear Blackpool and MOrecambe are nice at this time of year, bit nippy but nice. 1
Popular Post canuckamuck Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Banana7 said: What will people do who have already bought, and paid for flights and accomodation that don't have the required number of shots, and plan to arrive in 2 or 3 weeks? The shots have to be at least 1 month apart, and ususally need to be booked in advance. This new requirement for entry hasn't been thoughout properly. I was heading out next week to see my parents, who are old and not well. I had to wait two years for the BS vax restrictions to be removed. I could have gone before Christmas, but I had some things to take care of here first. Now I will have to cancel my flights and possibly never see them again. 1 3
andyman57 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, MicroB said: Well, one should always have travel insurance. However, they are requiring COVID treatment cover for those travellers going onwards to a country requiring a negative COVID test prior to entry. Yes I will be getting insurance along with my retirement visa when I get there thx
redwood1 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 56 minutes ago, nigelforbes said: I hear Blackpool and MOrecambe are nice at this time of year, bit nippy but nice. Blackpool...lol..............Prefect for overweight middle aged women with a attitude... 1 1
jacko45k Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 16 hours ago, 1duckyboy said: Does Sinovac qualify as a vaccine? You betchya!
at15 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Sherpa updated, cant believe it. Thailand has now joined only 15 other countries in the world with this bs. https://pr.moph.go.th/?url=pr/detail/2/04/184146/
habuspasha Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 5 hours ago, nigelforbes said: Look at my post on the previous page and the link to Worldmetter and the US unvaccinated death rate, it's 1 in 820 people. I don't see 1 in 820 anywhere on that post. In any case, what does that mean? What is the claim?
nigelforbes Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, habuspasha said: I don't see 1 in 820 anywhere on that post. In any case, what does that mean? What is the claim? Click on the link and rad the graph, duh! Here, a simple read: Surpassing 400,000 deaths means that 1 in every 820 Americans has now died from Covid-19. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/19/us-hits-400000-covid-19-deaths-nearly-1-in-every-800-americans/
jcmj Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Why don’t we have a look at this a from a different viewpoint. The election is coming up which no one seems likely to have a majority so all hell will break loose if it’s seen as rigged. So, how about we just let all the infected Chinese people visit, let the cases skyrocket and then the military will have to step in to “protect “ the citizens with a lockdown. That and just being stupid and greedy. Trying to put all their eggs in the same basket that fkd them before. 2
TooMuchTime Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, nigelforbes said: Click on the link and rad the graph, duh! Here, a simple read: Surpassing 400,000 deaths means that 1 in every 820 Americans has now died from Covid-19. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/19/us-hits-400000-covid-19-deaths-nearly-1-in-every-800-americans/ What percent are over 70 and died of covid and not "with covid" 1 1
BritManToo Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Joinaman said: ok maybe the wrong word so what are they supposed to do and how long is it supposed to do it ? They're supposed to make money for big pharma. 1
Popular Post jacko45k Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, TooMuchTime said: What percent are over 70 and died of covid and not "with covid" Have not seen that daft question for a while. Are you trying to say deaths in people over 70 caused by covid are irrelevant? 2 1
redwood1 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, jcmj said: Why don’t we have a look at this a from a different viewpoint. The election is coming up which no one seems likely to have a majority so all hell will break loose if it’s seen as rigged. So, how about we just let all the infected Chinese people visit, let the cases skyrocket and then the military will have to step in to “protect “ the citizens with a lockdown. That and just being stupid and greedy. Trying to put all their eggs in the same basket that fkd them before. Good plan......And the army can be incharge of counting the votes "again" in the upcoming election... 1
nigelforbes Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, TooMuchTime said: What percent are over 70 and died of covid and not "with covid" I give up, how many! 2
beammeup Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Is there any confirmation that this will happen or are they just throwing this out there to see what the reaction is?
habuspasha Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, nigelforbes said: Surpassing 400,000 deaths means that 1 in every 820 Americans has now died from Covid-19. OK. But what does that have to do with the effectiveness of vaccine?
nigelforbes Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, habuspasha said: OK. But what does that have to do with the effectiveness of vaccine? I've tried to get you to click on the link in my earlier post, if you were to do that you'd see the covid fatality rate showing unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated vs partially vaccinated, the unvaccinated is where the vast majority of deaths occur.
habuspasha Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 11 hours ago, habuspasha said: 12 hours ago, BritScot said: You need to read the medical reports now coming out because the figures are showing the opposit. Here is a figure to look up 1 in 800 and that is in the uk and USA's injury figures...... Please cite "the medical reports," explain what you mean by "the opposite," and what you are referring to as "1 in 800." My question about the meaning of "1 in 800" was in the context of BritScot's challenge that medical reports and that figure showed the opposite of what I said on a previous post to the effect that the shots were meant to reduce serious illness and death, not minor infections. (I guess the "opposite" would be to reduce infections but not deaths?}
sandyf Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TooMuchTime said: What percent are over 70 and died of covid and not "with covid" Obviously you believe that if someone has a condition and they get covid, then the immune system fights the covid and allows the condition to kill that person, covid had nothing to do with the death.
nigelforbes Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, habuspasha said: My question about the meaning of "1 in 800" was in the context of BritScot's challenge that medical reports and that figure showed the opposite of what I said on a previous post to the effect that the shots were meant to reduce serious illness and death, not minor infections. (I guess the "opposite" would be to reduce infections but not deaths?} I don't know if you're addressing that to me, it looks like you replied to your own post. Anyway, I have no idea what you're talking about or what your issues are. The graphs and the article's stats. seems pretty conclusive to me, unless of course you don't want them to be, in which case I'm not the person to discuss this with. bye.
habuspasha Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 25 minutes ago, nigelforbes said: I've tried to get you to click on the link in my earlier post, if you were to do that you'd see the covid fatality rate showing unvaccinated versus fully vaccinated vs partially vaccinated, the unvaccinated is where the vast majority of deaths occur. I know that and have never disputed it.
Popular Post pomchop Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 If all the antivaxxers would just get the damn shots rather than arguing endlessly over obscure reports and conspiracy theories there would be a lot fewer dead people around the world. And one more time: the shots do not guarantee that you won't get covid...but they do greatly increase your odds of having a mild case rather than a hose stuck down your throat that requires a hospital and docs and nurses have to deal with you. 1 1 2 2 2
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, pomchop said: If all the antivaxxers would just get the damn shots rather than arguing endlessly over obscure reports and conspiracy theories there would be a lot fewer dead people around the world. And one more time: the shots do not guarantee that you won't get covid...but they do greatly increase your odds of having a mild case rather than a hose stuck down your throat that requires a hospital and docs and nurses have to deal with you. The covid strains now are all mild, with or without shots. Not being vaccinated has little to do with this thread. It's the vaccinated people in the magority and they are the ones panicking about the other vaccinated Chinese people coming here. I'm not vaccinated and I have never had covid. I don't care about getting it either any more that I would not wand to catch the flu or a bad cold. But I am very concerned about an I crease in cases here and more lock downs and restriction etc, due to this stupid idea to allow Chinese back here in large numbers. 3
jacko45k Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, jak2002003 said: The covid strains now are all mild, with or without shots. I saw a report supposedly out of China showing rather large numbers of deaths occurring there from Covid.... surely a new mutation can also be more pathological? 1
Neeranam Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 5 hours ago, canuckamuck said: I was heading out next week to see my parents, who are old and not well. I had to wait two years for the BS vax restrictions to be removed. I could have gone before Christmas, but I had some things to take care of here first. Now I will have to cancel my flights and possibly never see them again. Why will you have to cancel? I can't think of anything more important than seeing dying parents. 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, pomchop said: If all the antivaxxers would just get the damn shots rather than arguing endlessly over obscure reports and conspiracy theories there would be a lot fewer dead people around the world. Sometimes personal integrity is more important that succumbing to governmental demands. I got 3 vaccines but no more, as I know the truth now. 5 3
Popular Post pomchop Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 Tell the families of all the dead people in the last few months how mild covid is now. If all the antivaxxers would just get the damn shots rather than arguing endlessly over obscure reports and conspiracy theories there would be a lot fewer dead people around the world. 2 2
Popular Post jak2002003 Posted January 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I saw a report supposedly out of China showing rather large numbers of deaths occurring there from Covid.... surely a new mutation can also be more pathological? Yes. You are right. But usually the new mutation get less and less severe...this is the pattern that has been found with most viruses. There is a very low chance of a more severe mutation happening. I think will backfire on China. As their people have poor quality vaccines and they don't offer imnunity to the New strains of covid. They also haven't been exposed to the New strains from outside China. So when they go to other countries they wi get infected with these covid strains and get very sick.. Perhaps needing to go to hospital. They could also take back the new strains to China on their return, and make people there sick...and with their already overflowing hospitals they are going to get overwhelmed. 3
sungod Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 4 hours ago, at15 said: Sherpa updated, cant believe it. Thailand has now joined only 15 other countries in the world with this bs. https://pr.moph.go.th/?url=pr/detail/2/04/184146/ Flew in and out of Indonesia (Bali) a month ago, so not quite sure what restrictions they have as it was all very normal.
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now