Gary Lineker told to step back from presenting Match of the Day

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Doesn't matter. Read the rules. I posted them already. 

Read the rules you posted, can’t see anything that prevents Lineker offering his personal opinions on his personal social media account.

 

If you believe such a clause exists, please identify it the rules you posted.

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I don't know Lineker from a bar of soap but I think it is not totally unreasonable for high profile media personalities to be asked to limit expressing their private opinions on highly contentious issues. If I was boss I would limit it to those in the newsroom though, and not limit the ability of other hosts or entertainers such as those relating to soccer shows, to have their say. 

The point is he is working for the BBC. Funded by the taxpayer.

 

If he wants to work for Talk Radio he can say what he wants.

 

But then he wouldn't get paid millions from the taxpayers who have to pay his salary under threat of jail sentences.

 

Personally I would defund the BBC and then they can raise their own money and preach left wing Woke rubbish all day. 

 

Their content is garbage. They'd never survive.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Classic hypocritical champagne socialist.

 

He was quite happy to cover the world cup in Qatar. 

 

Goes on about climate change and drives a 5 litre Benz. 

 

He should quit the BBC and go work for The Guardian if he wants to write this tosh.

Running out of arguments you go straight to the ad hominem.

 

We got it already, you don’t like Gary Lineker. 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Read the rules you posted, can’t see anything that prevents Lineker offering his personal opinions on his personal social media account.

 

If you believe such a clause exists, please identify it the rules you posted.

There is a clause for social media, I just posted a link, however its complicated as he's also self employed and there is a dispute going on regards that and his tax. The BBC insisted some of its top paid stars go self employed, its led to big tax problems apparently. This from yesterday.

 

If you're self employed are you also bound by the impartiality clauses?

 

Inside Gary Lineker’s tax clash with the BBC, which has left him paying hundreds of thousands in legal fees

There’s more to the row than tweets: Gary Lineker and the BBC are at loggerheads over his clash with HMRC

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/gary-lineker-tax-clash-bbc-paying-legal-fees-2201702

Edited March 11, 2023 by Bkk Brian

[sammieuk1]

Suspended by the same director general that was in front of a commons committee recently for dubious goings on with Boris and doggy loans I suppose ???? 

[James105]

7 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

His tweets are there for all to see. Go look them up if you like. 

So that would be a no then.   So predictable.   

[RuamRudy]

I presume it was an oversight that meant that Andrew Neil faced no consequences for tweeting insults to the brave reporter who exposed the lies of Vote Leave and it's Russian connections.

 

"Top BBC political journalist Andrew Neil has deleted a tweet calling The Observer’s Carole Cadwalldr a “mad cat woman”, which was published in the early hours of this morning."

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/bbcs-andrew-neil-deletes-early-morning-tweet-calling-observers-carole-cadwalladr-mad-cat-woman/

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Read the rules you posted, can’t see anything that prevents Lineker offering his personal opinions on his personal social media account.

 

If you believe such a clause exists, please identify it the rules you posted.

There is a clause for social media. Read it.

[JonnyF]

3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

There is a clause for social media, I just posted a link, however its complicated as he's also self employed and there is a dispute going on regards that and his tax. The BBC insisted some of its top paid stars go self employed, its led to big tax problems apparently. This from yesterday.

 

If you're self employed are you also bound by the impartiality clauses?

 

Inside Gary Lineker’s tax clash with the BBC, which has left him paying hundreds of thousands in legal fees

There’s more to the row than tweets: Gary Lineker and the BBC are at loggerheads over his clash with HMRC

https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/money/gary-lineker-tax-clash-bbc-paying-legal-fees-2201702

Yes he is self employed to minimize the tax he pays. While collecting millions in salary from poor, working class taxpayers under the threat of jail, all while driving a 5 litre Benz around London and lording it up in Qatar during the world cup.

 

A true socialist. Let's all have a round of applause for Gary.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

There is a clause for social media. Read it.

Then you will have no problem providing the clause number.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, James105 said:

So that would be a no then.   So predictable.   

I have absolutely no idea who you are or what you do or do not know. I have never seen any of your posts before, let alone interacted with you. But in our brief exchange I have, ironically enough, surmised that you jump to conclusions quickly. Have a nice, if unnecessarily aggrieved and definitely incorrect Sunday.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Yes he is self employed to minimize the tax he pays. While collecting millions in salary from poor, working class taxpayers under the threat of jail, all while driving a 5 litre Benz around London and lording it up in Qatar during the world cup.

 

A true socialist. Let's all have a round of applause for Gary.

Or so it is alleged.

 

Incidentally, has Gary Lineker ever claimed to be a socialist, let alone a true socialist.

 

Do you have a link to that?

Edited March 11, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Then you will have no problem providing the clause number.

I'm not a spoon feeder.

[RuamRudy]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Yes he is self employed to minimize the tax he pays. While collecting millions in salary from poor, working class taxpayers under the threat of jail, all while driving a 5 litre Benz around London and lording it up in Qatar during the world cup.

 

A true socialist. Let's all have a round of applause for Gary.

In order to be taken seriously when calling out the rancid actions of Sue Ellen, must one be living on the streets and wearing sack cloths?

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Or so it is alleged.

All factual. Which part do you doubt?

[James105]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

I presume it was an oversight that meant that Andrew Neil faced no consequences for tweeting insults to the brave reporter who exposed the lies of Vote Leave and it's Russian connections.

 

"Top BBC political journalist Andrew Neil has deleted a tweet calling The Observer’s Carole Cadwalldr a “mad cat woman”, which was published in the early hours of this morning."

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/bbcs-andrew-neil-deletes-early-morning-tweet-calling-observers-carole-cadwalladr-mad-cat-woman/

Calling another journalist a mad cat woman is not political bias.    If that is all you have then it's hardly comparable to what Lineker is doing is it?   

 

Lineker's comments are equivalent to what Matt Le Tissier came out with when he worked for Sky regarding Covid 3 years ago, and Le Tissier was sacked for having this view.    There was deafening silence from Lineker, Wright, Shearer, his colleagues on Sky, lefties everywhere.   I kept hearing "freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences" at the time.   

[onthedarkside]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Yes he is self employed to minimize the tax he pays. While collecting millions in salary from poor, working class taxpayers under the threat of jail, all while driving a 5 litre Benz around London and lording it up in Qatar during the world cup.

 

A true socialist. Let's all have a round of applause for Gary.

It was not his choice was it? It was insistence by the BBC along with other top earners.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

In order to be taken seriously when calling out the rancid actions of Sue Ellen, must one be living on the streets and wearing sack cloths?

Socialists generally don't support the wealthy dodging taxes.

 

Well, unless they are the wealthy tax dodgers.

[Madgee]

Oh for the good old days when there was none of this social media nonsense!
 

[RuamRudy]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Socialists generally don't support the wealthy dodging taxes.

 

Well, unless they are the wealthy tax dodgers.

That makes less sense than your previous post. 

 

Has lineker ever claimed to be a socialist?

Are only socialists allowed to express support for the oppressed?

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I'm not a spoon feeder.

Clearly nothing to put on your spoon.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

All factual. Which part do you doubt?

Your claim that Lineker is a true socialist.

 

I’ve asked you if he has ever made a statement that he’s a socialist and if so do you have a link.

 

Has he, do you have a link or are you engaging in a baseless ad hominem?

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Socialists generally don't support the wealthy dodging taxes.

 

Well, unless they are the wealthy tax dodgers.

We’re is your evidence that Gary Lineker is a socialist?

[James105]

2 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

It was not his choice was it? It was insistence by the BBC along with other top earners.

Actually it would have been his choice of how much tax he paid, even if the BBC insisted on employing him as a freelance contractor via a Ltd company.   If he declared himself as within IR35 (which is probably what he should have done) then he would have paid the equivalent of PAYE and would not be investigated for tax evasion.   He wasn't working for the BBC as a "Company" that could provide the BBC a service, he was working as Gary Lineker during hours defined by the BBC who were effectively his "employer".    

 

If he had an accountant (which of course he did) then this accountant would have been fully aware of IR35 and told him of the risks of pretending he wasn't the equivalent of an employee of the BBC.   So what he has done appears to be clear tax evasion and now he is paying expensive lawyers  to try and wriggle out of it rather than pay what he owes, which is tax that could go some way to supporting the illegal immigrants that arrive on the UK shores that he is so fond of.   

[JonnyF]

If viewers are upset at Gary being missing from MOTD, at least they have the Shamima Begum podcast series available.

 

Fortunately we can just stop paying for the service if we don't like it. 

 

Oh... wait a minute.

[onthedarkside]

Just now, James105 said:

Actually it would have been his choice of how much tax he paid, even if the BBC insisted on employing him as a freelance contractor via a Ltd company.   If he declared himself as within IR35 (which is probably what he should have done) then he would have paid the equivalent of PAYE and would not be investigated for tax evasion.   He wasn't working for the BBC as a "Company" that could provide the BBC a service, he was working as Gary Lineker during hours defined by the BBC who were effectively his "employer".    

 

If he had an accountant (which of course he did) then this accountant would have been fully aware of IR35 and told him of the risks of pretending he wasn't the equivalent of an employee of the BBC.   So what he has done appears to be clear tax evasion and now he is paying expensive lawyers  to try and wriggle out of it rather than pay what he owes, which is tax that could go some way to supporting the illegal immigrants that arrive on the UK shores that he is so fond of.   

Irrelevant, he was forced into that situation, not by choice.

[BobBKK]

Good - pompous rich woke know-it-all.  No business commenting on the PMs strategy and comparing it to Hitler. Most Brits welcome the OBVIOUS fairness of arriving legally and processing or arriving illegally and not processing - what's unfair about that? 

[BobBKK]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We’re is your evidence that Gary Lineker is a socialist?

He'd be a very rich socialist!  he's definitely a woke rich liberal.

[James105]

2 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

Irrelevant, he was forced into that situation, not by choice.

It's not irrelevant at all.   I've worked as a freelance contractor via the same setup and each contract you take you have to make a choice of whether to declare yourself as an equivalent to an "employee" or if you are genuinely acting as a company.    Nobody forced him to evade tax by declaring himself as outside IR35 - that was his choice and not the BBC.   

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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Good.

 

Linekar isn't above the rules. Everyone knows everyone at the BBC is a left wing Labour voter (and if they're not, they soon become one if they wish to keep their job) but as a publicly funded organization they need to display impartiality.

 

Maitlis was a disgrace and now Linekar has taken over the virtue signaling duties. Hopefully he is sacked for constantly breaking his employment contract.

 

Just because you're so deluded that you think you have the moral high ground, doesn't mean the rules do not apply to you.

 

The BBC loves diversity, except of course diversity of opinion.

Confused much? You conclude with this:

 

"The BBC loves diversity, except of course diversity of opinion."

 

It's clearly not about the BBC's prejudices. If that were the case, then the "left wing Labour voters at the BBC wouldn't have penalized Linaker in the first place.