DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, DrJack54 said: For extensions the origin of the money (coming from abroad) is not required. Has nothing to do with the several above posts I have made. In obtaining a non O retirement in Thailand then indeed the funds need to be shown to have come from abroad. All of which has zero to do with "bank letter" needed for non O application and subsequent extension. Embarrassing. You sure are good at digging in your heels. You're wrong. I'll help you. I am not getting a non-o visa. I have one already. I am extending it. I don't need to show where my money came from. 800,000 in the bank for 3 months. Done. Bank letter only good for a few days. It attests that the money is in my account and for the length of time requireed. Done and dusted. Keep it up and I will seriously make you look very foolish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I know this will be embarrassing for you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) I will wait for the apology but I won't wait too long as I suspect it will never come. A real man would admit that he made a mistake, give a hearty mea culpa and move on. Edited March 14, 2023 by DudleySquat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, DudleySquat said: The branch makes no difference. The letter is all that counts. you don't need a letter if you use this agent. unless you're using them for "handholding" of course. the OP seems to be in the know so the assumption is that he wants the full service or he would have mentioned otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DudleySquat said: You sure are good at digging in your heels. You're wrong. I'll help you. I am not getting a non-o visa. I have one already. I am extending it. I don't need to show where my money came from. 800,000 in the bank for 3 months. Done. Bank letter only good for a few days. It attests that the money is in my account and for the length of time requireed. Done and dusted. Keep it up and I will seriously make you look very foolish. Ok enough. I'm being patient. Google this " extension report retirement money in bank AseanNow" You will find MANY threads from various immigration offices. The bank letter does not show how long funds have been in the account. As shown in my bank letter posted above For my most recent 12 month extension based on retirement using money in the bank at CW .. The io was not completely happy with my 12 month bank book records as there were some months of no transactions. They made me sign that next extension I would provide bank statements. My last report. Of course that is without agent. https://aseannow.com/topic/1237783-extension-retirement-at-cw-report/ Edited March 14, 2023 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Lemsta69 said: you don't need a letter if you use this agent. unless you're using them for "handholding" of course. the OP seems to be in the know so the assumption is that he wants the full service or he would have mentioned otherwise. Agents take care of the letter and account by greasing the palms of the bank managers. You're not getting the full story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 15 hours ago, BritTim said: Give them your passport on the morning of one day, receive the passport back with the extension two working days later in the afternoon. Enough time for them to send it upcountry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Just now, DrJack54 said: Ok enough. I'm being patient. Google this " extension report retirement money in bank AseanNow" You will find MANY threads from various immigration offices. The bank letter does not show how long funds have been in the account. As shown in my bank letter posted above For my most recent 12 month extension based on retirement using money in the bank at CW .. The io was not completely happy with my 12 month bank book records as there were some months of no transactions. They made me sign that next extension I would provide bank statements. Address this. This is from Thai Law. The apology is still necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 15 hours ago, Lemsta69 said: Just used them last Wednesday, price was still B12,500. They needed passport, two (2) photos and Bangkok Bank bank book. Their business card is attached, maybe hit them up on LINE to sort out the finer points. And no I'm not getting comission from them ????. They were recommended by a trusted friend who has lived here 20+ years. Seems they have a few scams going on - no wonder they have no website. https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293919-i9439-k1844971-Scam_on_Cambodia_Visa_Cost_by_Maneerat_Transport_Travel-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html https://www.travelfish.org/board/post/thailand/3664_pattaya-travellers--beware-of-maneerat-transport---travel--on-soi-post-office- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, DudleySquat said: Agents take care of the letter and account by greasing the palms of the bank managers. You're not getting the full story. I know what they do. you don't need to go to the bank and get the letter yourself, you just go there with your passport and your bank book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Seems they have a few scams going on - no wonder they have no website. https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293919-i9439-k1844971-Scam_on_Cambodia_Visa_Cost_by_Maneerat_Transport_Travel-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html https://www.travelfish.org/board/post/thailand/3664_pattaya-travellers--beware-of-maneerat-transport---travel--on-soi-post-office- care factor zero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I'm still waiting for my apology. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Upnotover Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Seems they have a few scams going on - no wonder they have no website. https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293919-i9439-k1844971-Scam_on_Cambodia_Visa_Cost_by_Maneerat_Transport_Travel-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html https://www.travelfish.org/board/post/thailand/3664_pattaya-travellers--beware-of-maneerat-transport---travel--on-soi-post-office- 14 years ago and still in business. Must be doing something right. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Upnotover said: 14 years ago and still in business. Must be doing something right. Their business is by desperate people who can't live in Thailand legally, they are willing to do anything. 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieK Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: I understand it 100%, you don’t agree the money in the system Agents use, I agree with the 'system' they use .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Their business is by desperate people who can't live in Thailand legally, they are willing to do anything. Do you really need to pollute every thread where the OP inquires about agents. That is seriously not required. For the record I don't use agents. I try to contribute to a thread or stay out. It's really very boring. The mods mention often that threads asking about agents posters should avoid preaching. 4 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, DrJack54 said: Do you really need to pollute every thread where the OP inquires about agents. That is seriously not required. For the record I don't use agents. I try to contribute to a thread or stay out. It's really very boring. The mods mention often that threads asking about agents posters should avoid preaching. There should be a ban on talking about illegal activities. You know very well that these agents bribe immigration. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrJack54 Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Neeranam said: There should be a ban on talking about illegal activities. You know very well that these agents bribe immigration. I'm sure that the folk that run AseanNow are capable of making those decisions. Again your bias is embarrassing. Unless you have constructive advice for the OP,s in various threads that specifically ask questions regarding agents then stop preaching. 4 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Neeranam said: There should be a ban on talking about illegal activities. You know very well that these agents bribe immigration. "Johnny One Note" Edited March 14, 2023 by JimmyJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Neeranam said: There should be a ban on talking about illegal activities. You know very well that these agents bribe immigration. If there was a ban on talking about illegal activities in Thailand, there would be very little else to talk about. ???????????? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DudleySquat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I ask a fundamental question in this thread Can you stop using an agent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) ~~~~~~ Edited March 14, 2023 by JimmyJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, DudleySquat said: Address this. This is from Thai Law. The apology is still necessary. This appears to be out of date. Do you not know about the new 800/400k 12 month rule? Edited March 14, 2023 by Lemsta69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spetersen Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Why use a Visa agent when you can do it yourself , I been here for 9 years and never had a problem , as long you can read and write English it should't bee any problems and use the the hard earned cash for something fun instead... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Upnotover Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, spetersen said: Why use a Visa agent when you can do it yourself , I been here for 9 years and never had a problem , as long you can read and write English it should't bee any problems and use the the hard earned cash for something fun instead... Ah but therein lies the problem, the hard earned cash has indeed already been used for something fun. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJ2U Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 18 hours ago, NONG CHOK said: Thanks for your reply Tim, do I need to show proof of residence or is my current address on the Immigration offices data base ok. Why are you changing agents? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted March 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 hours ago, DudleySquat said: I know this will be embarrassing for you: For most extensions, you can still rely on the 2014 Immigration Order. However, for retirement extensions, it is important to be aware that Amendments to 2.22 have been issued since. Most of the current provisions are well captured in RTP-Order-No.654-2564-1 Revising Clause from 2021. Carefully read what is stated as Criteria (4) and (5) 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 12 hours ago, DudleySquat said: You are wrong. 100 percent. No, he's not. He's coreect. They (Jomtien) want the "bank letter" @DrJack54 defined perfectly. They scrutinize every page of the bankbook(s) for the past 12 months AND want copies of those pages, proving the account had the proper funds at all times during the past year. If they are not satisfied, they will send you back to the bank to order a detailed 12-month account statement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red Phoenix Posted March 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2023 10 hours ago, DudleySquat said: I will wait for the apology but I won't wait too long as I suspect it will never come. A real man would admit that he made a mistake, give a hearty mea culpa and move on. The Mea Culpa should come from you, as dr Jack was fully correct. To clear up any misunderstandings: When applying for the 1-year extension of your Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement you need to show TWO PIECES of evidence that you met the financial requirements: # That you have a personal Thai bank-account on which you keep the required funds - that's the Bank Statement issued by your thai Bank that shows that you are the owner of a Thai Bank-account and the balance on the day that Statement was issued. So you need to do a transaction on the day of application such that the Balance reflects your current status on date of application. # That you maintained the required funds for the 12 months preceding your application (the first 3 months keeping +800K, the next 7 months you are allowed to lower that amount as long as it does not slip below +400K, and then again +800K for the last two months preceding your application). To provide evidence of that some Immigration Offices simply want to see your Bank Pass-book (updated on the day of application) so that they can check that you met the requirement over the past 12 months. But many Immigration Offices want on top of the Pass-book that you also provide a Bank-transaction Statement issued by your Bank, which shows all the transactions that were made on your Bank-account in the past 12 months. The transaction made on the day of application might not be on that Bank-transaction Statement when you kept the funds on a Fixed Deposit Account and got hold of it on day of application, but document #1 your Bank-Statement will provide the Balance on day of application 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red Phoenix Posted March 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, DudleySquat said: I ask a fundamental question in this thread Can you stop using an agent? Of course you can stop using an Agent. I never used an Agent. Neither for my initial 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement application, nor for the yearly extensions of that Visa. It goes without saying that in such case you need to fully meet the Immigration requirements for these applications. Note, that when you made use of an Agent that by-passed the financial requirements (evidence of +800K/+400K on your Thai bank-account in the past 12 months), that you would need to meet those requirements before being able to do your next extension yourself. Alternatively, you would have to make a border-run to 'kill' your current Permission to Stay, then return Visa Exempt, and apply 'with a clean sheet' for a new 90-day Non Imm O Visa for reason of retirement subsequently - 3 months later - followed by your 1-year extension. Edited March 15, 2023 by Red Phoenix 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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