Why do people ask questions on this forum and then expect the answers are correct when they are FREQUENTLY wrong? Is Google broken?

[nglodnig]

<begin rant> Many many years ago I was at a (computer security) conference and the presenter stood up and talked a load of bollards about stuff I knew well. I called him out and said his info was YEARS out of date. But I think got a grand for an hours speaking. Nice work if you can get it.

 

Same on this forum. Seems here people will spout (authoritatively) answers to questions that are FREQUENTLY wrong. If I answer myself I will use as a caveat this is from my personal experience but might be different for you.  But some of the answers are again pure bollards.

 

Case in point: you need to enable roaming on your Thai mobile to receive SMS messages. No you don't. Roaming is CALL roaming and SMS uses a completely different system. Yet some people will give this as an answer.

 

And you need a VPN to access Thai bank internet systems (well with mine[BBL] you don't) and I use SEVERAL banks from different countries and have NEVER had to use a VPN. That's why they call it the internet. There are some restrictions (e.g. has to be a mobile of that country to get an OTP as their software can't use country codes basically)  yet some people will give this an answer. <end rant>

[BananaStrong]

35 minutes ago, nglodnig said:

Case in point: you need to enable roaming on your Thai mobile to receive SMS messages. No you don't. Roaming is CALL roaming and SMS uses a completely different system. Yet some people will give this as an answer.

WRONG!!!!   You must enable roaming, call roaming is only necessary in some instances, but SMS will work better if you enable roaming.   Studies have shown it's 35.5% better on roaming, so why not use it all the time!!!  They use the same system, also proven!!!!   Use Google, this is all factual information.  If you are still reading and wondering about this post, well, I'm wondering about your post and unicorns exist as well..  

[LosLobo]

20 minutes ago, BananaStrong said:

WRONG!!!!   You must enable roaming, call roaming is only necessary in some instances, but SMS will work better if you enable roaming.   Studies have shown it's 35.5% better on roaming, so why not use it all the time!!!  They use the same system, also proven!!!!   Use Google, this is all factual information.  If you are still reading and wondering about this post, well, I'm wondering about your post and unicorns exist as well..  

Beg to differ all Google information is not factual, It does not fact check the content, basically it is a search engine

 

Some users search with Google until they find what suits their narrative.

 

An example of this is when conspiracy theorists on social media suggest "do your own research" instead of believing the science. 

All manner of information like "the earth is really flat" is out there!

[poppysdad]

I find that Facebook posters give out considerably more bad and wrong info than this forum does. 

[Tom H]

I not read articles here. I read the answers. So much fun:).

[spidermike007]

That applies to the entire web. One needs to exercise discrimination and use their judgment. One has to assume much of which we read online is not accurate, is expressed with an agenda, has political bias, or is plain disinformation. So, we talk all of it with a grain of salt. 

[HappyExpat57]

I find Google more frustrating by the day. A simple search results in offers to sell me everything closely associated to the words in the query. Often I get no answer to fairly basic questions. Folks on this forum will give better answers (if you filter out the jokers).

[Lacessit]

I've found Google to be wrong on matters of fact on a couple of occasions. It's a useful tool when searching for services, locations etc.

As far as posters on this forum go, there are those who post on the basis of facts and peer-reviewed data, and those that post on the basis of their beliefs.

Science does not care what you believe.

[Bert got kinky]

 

Why do people ask questions on this forum and then expect the answers are correct when they are FREQUENTLY wrong? Is Google broken?

Wow, did you really ask a question on here and expect to find the correct answer?

Try asking on Google, apparently is is not broken.

 

[worgeordie]

I think anyone with a question should ask you ,as you seem to be a know it all ,

ask @NGLODNIC 

regards Worgeordie

[The Fugitive]

19 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

and those that post on the basis of their beliefs.

And those that enjoy raising doubts and causing worry. Fortunately, it's usually extremely easy to spot this. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Google doesn't know everything. I get a lot of no replies on things I want to know.

[thaibeachlovers]

27 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I've found Google to be wrong on matters of fact on a couple of occasions. It's a useful tool when searching for services, locations etc.

As far as posters on this forum go, there are those who post on the basis of facts and peer-reviewed data, and those that post on the basis of their beliefs.

Science does not care what you believe.

Believers don't care what science says about faith, as science is incapable of explaining it- waaaaay too primitive.

[dingdongrb]

TV.avif

[2baht]

Can Google tell you where to find the cheapest paper clips in Pattaya???

[NextG]

2 hours ago, nglodnig said:

 

<begin rant> Many many years ago I was at a (computer security) conference and the presenter stood up and talked a load of bollards about stuff I knew well. I called him out and said his info was YEARS out of date. But I think got a grand for an hours speaking. Nice work if you can get it.

 

Same on this forum. Seems here people will spout (authoritatively) answers to questions that are FREQUENTLY wrong. If I answer myself I will use as a caveat this is from my personal experience but might be different for you.  But some of the answers are again pure bollards.

 

Case in point: you need to enable roaming on your Thai mobile to receive SMS messages. No you don't. Roaming is CALL roaming and SMS uses a completely different system. Yet some people will give this as an answer.

 

And you need a VPN to access Thai bank internet systems (well with mine[BBL] you don't) and I use SEVERAL banks from different countries and have NEVER had to use a VPN. That's why they call it the internet. There are some restrictions (e.g. has to be a mobile of that country to get an OTP as their software can't use country codes basically)  yet some people will give this an answer. <end rant>

 

It must be mortifying for you, after all that, to get it wrong yourself. 
Roaming is for calls??????

No, Roaming is so you can connect to a network. No network…. no SMS. 

[LosLobo]

33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Believers don't care what science says about faith, as science is incapable of explaining it- waaaaay too primitive.

"Belief is usually defined as a conviction of the truth of a proposition without its verification; therefore a belief is a subjective mental interpretation derived from perceptions, contemplation(reasoning), or communication".

 

Belief (sciencedaily.com)

[The Fugitive]

1 minute ago, 2baht said:

Can Google tell you where to find the cheapest paper clips in Pattaya???

Reminds me of a primary school report I kept for some time. One teacher had written........'Needs to learn how to use reference books'. Translates as 'because I don't know the answers'.  

[The Fugitive]

3 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

"Belief is usually defined as a conviction of the truth of a proposition without its verification; therefore a belief is a subjective mental interpretation derived from perceptions, contemplation(reasoning), or communication".

 

Belief (sciencedaily.com)

Or, a total lack of perceptions, reasoning or communication. 'That never happened to me, therefore it doesn't/can't happen'.

[stratocaster]

1 hour ago, poppysdad said:

I find that Facebook posters give out considerably more bad and wrong info than this forum does. 

You need to read the "kids and Thailand wannabees" forum. Wrong info is posted everyday. Unfortunately as time goes on it becomes fact. Example 3 months ago it was posted that to get PR only 3 years of one year extensions for any reason was required. Correcting this resulted in me getting 10 downvotes. Today it was posted that a 90 day Non O visa for retirement required no insurance but the one year extensions did. It was the most upvoted comment. By the way I only read that forum to get my daily dose of laughter.

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, BananaStrong said:

WRONG!!!!   You must enable roaming, call roaming is only necessary in some instances, but SMS will work better if you enable roaming.   Studies have shown it's 35.5% better on roaming, so why not use it all the time!!!  They use the same system, also proven!!!!   Use Google, this is all factual information.  If you are still reading and wondering about this post, well, I'm wondering about your post and unicorns exist as well..  

So what your saying is the OP is correct and roaming is not needed for SMS !!

[KannikaP]

16 minutes ago, NextG said:

It must be mortifying for you, after all that, to get it wrong yourself. 
Roaming is for calls??????

No, Roaming is so you can connect to a network. No network…. no SMS. 

 

18 minutes ago, NextG said:

No, Roaming is so you can connect to a network. No network…. no SMS. 

Roaming is a setting for your SIM card so you can use it for calls & messages when out of the country of origin.

You can connect to a Network WITHOUT a SIM being used almost anywhere..

[sammieuk1]

I have just googled Bollards and this is all I got ????

 

[RAZZELL]

OP is the font of all knowledge (via Google)  

 

RAZZ

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

I think anyone with a question should ask you ,as you seem to be a know it all ,

ask @NGLODNIC 

regards Worgeordie

No No !!!  "You are the one".  ????

[KhunLA]

Agree with title, it's mind boggling, and why I never ask a question or will ask (rare) but, someone I know who actually has experience and can answer.

 

First place I go for info is Google, and sometimes, before I reply, to make sure I'm current.

 

To add to OP, so many reply, without reading the OP or links provided, just to the title, and simply come off as silly or really ignorant.   

 

I make note of that when I'm doing (to the title), as author may be on my ignore list and didn't see to OP, or I disagree with half of the actual post.

[LennyW]

Many people dismiss the answers they receive anyway because it does not align with their notion of what they think the answer should be!

[BananaStrong]

FACTS that CANNOT be debated here!!!!!!!

 

1. A piece of string is 5.69 cm long

2.  A rock weighs 1 stone

3.  All houses in Thailand are the same

4.  Pollution is good for you

5.  Expats go crazy

6.  Drinking is good for you if everyone hates you

7.  There is no such thing as family

8.  Lotteries are the matrix

9.  Everything is a lie

10.  9 is a lie

[scubascuba3]

6 hours ago, nglodnig said:

Case in point: you need to enable roaming on your Thai mobile to receive SMS messages. No you don't. Roaming is CALL roaming and SMS uses a completely different system. Yet some people will give this as an answer.

 

And you need a VPN to access Thai bank internet systems (well with mine[BBL] you don't) and I use SEVERAL banks from different countries and have NEVER had to use a VPN. That's why they call it the internet. There are some restrictions (e.g. has to be a mobile of that country to get an OTP as their software can't use country codes basically)  yet some people will give this an answer. <end rant>

People like yourself misunderstand posts also

[poppysdad]

I’ve just checked my settings on my iPhone and roaming is switched off. I can make and receive phone calls around Thailand and the UK. I can receive and send SMS and messages likewise. Along with using Facebook and Line and FaceTime both here and abroad for messages and chats.